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New Apple Products at NAB?
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rdowns said:
I don't see why Apple couldn't change to a CD and DVD install version of 10.4. The CD would be specifically for G4 Mac's. The DVD would be for the G5, then they could also offer 64 bit. If Apple moves to 64 bit OS software then it will encourage developers to create 64 bit compatability software. What better place to announce this strategy than at WWDC in June.
just dreamin'
it seems like apple would release a roku gadget soon. it feels like the next step.
i dream of apple announcing a buy out of oqo.com. that would be rad. they'd have to rename it as "vPod" or something appley like that. i haven't thought of a slogan for it, but i'm sure steve's crew would come up with something snazzy. maybe, "the world's most powerful handtop computer."
it seems like apple would release a roku gadget soon. it feels like the next step.
i dream of apple announcing a buy out of oqo.com. that would be rad. they'd have to rename it as "vPod" or something appley like that. i haven't thought of a slogan for it, but i'm sure steve's crew would come up with something snazzy. maybe, "the world's most powerful handtop computer."
appleface said:
That OQO handheld computer is INCREDIBLE, and designed by the same guy who designed the TiBook I believe.
I can definitely see Apple coming out with a kick @ss device very similar to that one. It would be so great! I would buy it in a second.
wdlove said:
I dont see Apple going down a dual OS path again (OS9 and OS X). Too complicated and expensive to support. How will they sell upgrades, two different versions? More cost.
What I think Apple needs to do and believe they will, is to transition their line to all G5 within a year and then move to a 64 bit OS maybe a year after that. Give the G4 installed base a chance to live out their useful life. Criticize (deservedly so) Apple for many things but leaving the installed base behind is something they have not yet done.
rdowns said:
unless you count abandoning OS 9, which had a huge installed base (and still has many holdouts).
OS 9.2.2 has followed OS 8.5, OS 7 and OS 6
Before Panther, I had upgraded all my pertinent software to X and simply stopped having any reason to boot into 9, so I just don't go 9 anymore. Not once during 2003.
When I recently reloaded OS X onto my G3 iBook upon installing a new HD, although it originally had come with both systems installed, I un-intentionally neglected to load 9. The only reason I noticed was when I had to reload dual system software that warned me it was NOT doing anything for OS 9. "Oh, okay" was my only reaction. OS 9.2.2 has followed OS 8.5, OS 7 and OS 6. Eventually, OS X will give way to OS ll. Progress. Now that Quark has migrated to X, what else has been left behind? If someone does have a necessary program in OS 9, the situation is similar to dependency on MS DOS for Windows users. I empathize.
OS 9 is a huge unsafe security backdoor to OS X and if for no other reason, 9 had to go to protect OS X security. By booting into OS 9, I can circumvent (and have) almost all of OS X security protection, so I wondered how long it would take before Apple would close the loophole.rdowns said:
Before Panther, I had upgraded all my pertinent software to X and simply stopped having any reason to boot into 9, so I just don't go 9 anymore. Not once during 2003.
When I recently reloaded OS X onto my G3 iBook upon installing a new HD, although it originally had come with both systems installed, I un-intentionally neglected to load 9. The only reason I noticed was when I had to reload dual system software that warned me it was NOT doing anything for OS 9. "Oh, okay" was my only reaction. OS 9.2.2 has followed OS 8.5, OS 7 and OS 6. Eventually, OS X will give way to OS ll. Progress. Now that Quark has migrated to X, what else has been left behind? If someone does have a necessary program in OS 9, the situation is similar to dependency on MS DOS for Windows users. I empathize.
appleface said:
I hadn't been aware of that before now, but it looks an awful lot like something my dad and I used to talk about. Eventually, we think that home users will all be using a sort of modular system for their needs. It could even work pretty well in certain kinds of businesses.
IBM and a few others are working on designs that are pretty close to what we envisioned a few years ago. Basically, you have a central unit with your main drive, processor, RAM, and so on, where your work and personal stuff would stay. Then, there are form-factor units that you'd slot the module into - desktops, laptops, palmtops... It'd only be limited by what the engineers could squeeze into the space. Taking a lesson from the Sun server idea, though, you'd also have auxilliary modules. Slottable drives, extra RAM, and so on in high-badnwidth external units.
So, say that you had a single processor personal module, with 1 GB of RAM, a 250GB drive, and a low-end graphics card. It serves pretty well at home, and runs your laptop shell, too. When you're at work, though, you can drop it into your eight-processor, 20 GB RAM, 2 TB disk array system, so that your workflow is defined by your already-established preferences, and a hard-coded data lock for business users keeps you from taking any of it home.
Far fetched?
IBM's got working prototypes as we speak, and Sun does the drive/RAM/processor module in servers. It's just a matter of time before someone shrinks it.
As I like to keep reminding people: Think Different.
rdowns said:
It doesn't seem to me to be the same as supporting OS 9 & OS X. They would only be supporting OX. It would just be having one that supports the 64 bit for the G5. Apple needs to get more developers to write programs for the G5. We need to make full use of the G5.
New G5s anytime soon?
So.... Are we going to see new G5;s any time soon?
I sure hope so....Something is is wrong withthe spacebaron this computer....uhh any way....I cant standany more of thiswaitng.
lol....looks at post....off to compusa for a new keyboard...
So.... Are we going to see new G5;s any time soon?
I sure hope so....Something is is wrong withthe spacebaron this computer....uhh any way....I cant standany more of thiswaitng.
lol....looks at post....off to compusa for a new keyboard...
rdowns said:
As thatwendigo has pointed out above though, Apple HAS put the G5s in some of their machines - and it happens to be all their Pro machines (save the PowerBook) at that. If developers are going to exploit the G5, I think that they would do it for pro apps and in pro environments, which is exactly where Apple currently has the G5s - in their Pro machines. Or do you believe developers will only exploit the G5 when it is put in iBooks, eMacs and iMacs, not caring if the chip is in the Pro machines? Doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Mind you, there are many consumer apps I suppose that developers will no doubt work on once the G5 reaches these lower-end machines, however to me, the powerhouse apps (Photoshop, Final Cut, etc.) are the most likely apps to be optimized, and these are the Pro apps that run on the Pro machines - i.e. the PowerMacs and the xServes - which already have the G5.
As for making FULL use of the G5 as you suggest, hey, I'm all for that - throw the G5 in every single product! However the reality is, we're all going to have to be patient when it comes to this - there is a lot of re-engineering and obstacles to overcome, and it will happen in due time. Patience is a virtue!
As a result, expect the next batch of upgrades for the PowerBooks and iBooks to be G4 speed bumps with some hardware upgrades, and possibly even the same for the next iMac. Until we see the Rev B PowerMacs and possibly the fabled 3 GHz G5, I wouldn't expect to see any G5 upgrades in any other product lines, like it or not.
SURPRISE due for us at NAB beyond speed bumped iBooks, PowerBooks & PowerMacs
That's the NEWS.
The RUMORS (unconfirmed guesses) are that Apple has (pure speculation):
A. a new large Display incorporating HD TV; 30"?
B. upgraded FinalCut Pro to handle
NO ONE would tell what the products specifically are, or how they have come to be in the know. However, it was clear that their contact with the "surprise" has been long term and intimate, and that the events over the next 3 months will be a culmination of that relationship with Apple.
They do NOT expect Apple to release ALL THAT IT HAS during NAB with a hint that to do so would be overwhelming to the public and not in Apple's best interest. Looks like we are going to get "spoon fed" by a series of "surprises" that when viewed collectively will be quite a blockbuster.
They are saying that Apple and Uncle Steve have
NOT been quietly twiddling their thumbs with a broad grin on their faces
listening to Apple Music downloaded into iTunes on a new iPod or iPod Mini,
drinking Pepsi and collecting yellow bottle caps, while
watching Apple Studio Displays fly out the warehouses at discounted prices... all for nothing.
EXPECT TO BE SURPRISED, but not necessarily all at once.
The best part may be watching the faces of those few anti-Mac pro-PC prophets who have been ardently predicting the DEMISE of Apple and DOOM for the Mac
as they eat **** and ...(vile things happen to them, like being chained to a SONY or DELL IBM-compatible PC of their choice loaded with AOL and MS products, tied only to the internet with a 56k modem but having the use of a new PC USB webcam and AIM/AV)
Disgusting & cruel, isn't it.
Well folks, I've heard the same thing now from a 3rd person in a position to know, that APPLE has a "surprise" in store for us that we have yet to guess, affectingMacrumors said:
TV and the Mac
Apparently, the announcement could have been made as early as March 23rd, but was delayed until NAB this coming week in April because of the specific tie-in to Broadcast TV.That's the NEWS.
The RUMORS (unconfirmed guesses) are that Apple has (pure speculation):
A. a new large Display incorporating HD TV; 30"?
B. upgraded FinalCut Pro to handle
- HD TV broadcast video & cine; improved and made easier AC3 surround sound editing
- provided for multiple cameras shooting the same scene (A/B roll?)
- interfaced with new camcorders having expanded capabilities that are about to be released by Panasonic, JVC, SONY, and Pioneer; the full extent of which may not be revealed until their release, not Apple's
- a new APPLE TV oriented product involving an 80GB firewire hard drive, something other than an LCD display monitor, and either for the "home market" or tied to non-linear camcorder memory avoiding tape (sort of a firewire iPod for your camcorder at under $200)
NO ONE would tell what the products specifically are, or how they have come to be in the know. However, it was clear that their contact with the "surprise" has been long term and intimate, and that the events over the next 3 months will be a culmination of that relationship with Apple.
They do NOT expect Apple to release ALL THAT IT HAS during NAB with a hint that to do so would be overwhelming to the public and not in Apple's best interest. Looks like we are going to get "spoon fed" by a series of "surprises" that when viewed collectively will be quite a blockbuster.
They are saying that Apple and Uncle Steve have
NOT been quietly twiddling their thumbs with a broad grin on their faces
listening to Apple Music downloaded into iTunes on a new iPod or iPod Mini,
drinking Pepsi and collecting yellow bottle caps, while
watching Apple Studio Displays fly out the warehouses at discounted prices... all for nothing.
EXPECT TO BE SURPRISED, but not necessarily all at once
.The best part may be watching the faces of those few anti-Mac pro-PC prophets who have been ardently predicting the DEMISE of Apple and DOOM for the Mac
as they eat **** and ...(vile things happen to them, like being chained to a SONY or DELL IBM-compatible PC of their choice loaded with AOL and MS products, tied only to the internet with a 56k modem but having the use of a new PC USB webcam and AIM/AV)
Disgusting & cruel, isn't it.
MacRAND said:
Nice rumors. Wish they would put digital TV into powerbooks
Maybe in afew years. Ok your in the Oracle bout, especially now that the current Oracle and competition have been very quiet the last few days...Less than 24 to go
It's been probably asked before but I couldn't find the right post: What time does the Apple event start and is there a possibility to follow it live?
Edit: Found out half of the answer to my question: The event starts at 11am PDT or 1800 GMT.
Edit: Found out half of the answer to my question: The event starts at 11am PDT or 1800 GMT.
Time and Live
whoops found my answer....im alittle disappointed that it isnt on apples site, or using quicktime.....its using realplayer......
ooh well...
here is the url: http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/nab/nab2004/#
after you go to that site, look the the left, and it has instructions.
Zaty said:
whoops found my answer....im alittle disappointed that it isnt on apples site, or using quicktime.....its using realplayer......
ooh well...
here is the url: http://www.tvworldwide.com/events/nab/nab2004/#
after you go to that site, look the the left, and it has instructions.
AppleJustWorks said:
You beat me by two minutes or so...
But did you also realise that the Apple event is not listed in the show's official event schedule? Could it be that Apple's presentation is not really a NAB event and Apple just took the opportunity to present whatever they have while NAB is on? Therefore I doubt it will be webcast but there's still hope.
http://www.nabshow.com/keynotes.asp
Edit: It's in fact a press conference rather than official NAB event. So it won't probably be shown on NAB's webcast
well actually there is
actually there is one mention of apple on the page...(just do the find thingy with "apple") although it doesnt seem to be anything big...it just says about quicktime....not apple on the whole.!
actually there is one mention of apple on the page...(just do the find thingy with "apple") although it doesnt seem to be anything big...it just says about quicktime....not apple on the whole.!
