New Apple Stores?

[coolbreeze]

Originally posted by Sayhey
As the story goes, as I understand it, Nashville was one of the earliest of Apple's planned openings of a retail store. However, they couldn't get the variance on local ordinances over the types of signs used in Apple’s stores. So Apple moved on. I can't imagine that they have given up on Nashville, though.

When I visited the SoHo store in NYC several months ago, I had to practically stare at the building to realize it was the Apple Store.

If that isn't conservative enough for Nashville, I don't know what is.

EDIT. Oh, you mean inside the store?? What in the world? In the display windows? That must be an old, outdated ordinance.

 

[Sayhey]

Originally posted by coolbreeze
When I visited the SoHo store in NYC several months ago, I had to practically stare at the building to realize it was the Apple Store.

If that isn't conservative enough for Nashville, I don't know what is.

EDIT. Oh, you mean inside the store?? What in the world? In the display windows? That must be an old, outdated ordinance.

Here's a link to the 8/5/01 report of the original controversy. It is suppose to be from a MacCentral report but I didn't bother to look through their archives.

Today, MacCentral reported on a number of fairly interesting issues. First, Mac dealers have received the 867MHz Power Macs a week before they were expected, which is definitely a good move on Apple's part. Second, the Apple store planned for a Nashville location may be scrapped because city ordinance in the suburb Apple is planning for prohibits internally lit signs, as well as food signs (!). Apple is still looking for a way around the ordinance, or a variance on it. In addition to that, Apple is discontinuing the KidSafe service in iTools because of a lack of usage. I leave you with that...

 

[coolsoldier]

I want to see an Apple store in Albuquerque!

Never gonna happen, though. We don't even have a reseller.

Best I can hope for is that there'll eventually be one back home in Louisiana. Although from what I've heard Baton Rouge's reseller is apparently closed now too.

 

[D0ct0rteeth]

Originally posted by Sayhey
Apple also has two other new factors going for them in the pursuit of a Nashville store. First, they are now hot as a retail property. Malls now want them as a tenant as opposed to when they just started this effort and no one knew how it would go. Second, Apple also now has a certain native son of Tennessee on its board of directors that just might have some pull in Nashville. I can't believe it is not going to happen.

Yeah.. I am dying for a store in Nashville too!! where would they do it?

Over in Cool Springs? Opry Mills? Belle Meade?

- Doc

 

[winmacguy]

Originally posted by CrackedButter
Here are some more possible store locations for Apple Stores

London - England

Manchester - England

Paris - France

Berlin - Germany

Madrid - Spain

I'm sure there are others, trouble is they are also outside the world of the USA.

I think Apple world benefit immensly if they realised that America is NOT the whole world. It would be great to see some serious marketing and advertising and placement of new stores in Main cities OUTSIDE the US. How do you think Windoze got to be soo huge? MS is not the best , they are just the best at making everyone think they are the best. Guess what it must have worked because 95% of computer users in the world Use Microsoft.
Now imagine what would happen if Apple did something similar with the best operating system on the planet!

Being exclusive is great but being everywhere is better!

 

[Sayhey]

As has already been said it looks like a Regent Street store is in the works for London late next year. A Osaka store is already been announced for the same time frame. Does anyone think Apple is going to stop there? As long as these stores make money they are going to open more. Paris, Rome, and Berlin stores are in the near future (next 2yrs?) if i were to guess.

The interesting thing will be to watch and see if the store strategy outside the US will follow what Apple has done here. Will they open a cluster of stores in a metro area in order to cover the large population centers or will they just drop one large store in these cities? As good as Ginza looks the Tokyo metro area is the largest in the world and one store, no matter how impressive, won't make that big of a difference.

 

[BaghdadBob]

OK...the outside the US stuff...you guys need to quit crying already. The Japan store is going to open soon. That was absolutely the best choice for the first non-US store, and more will follow.

Stats go two ways. You can say "50% of Apple's sales are international..." or you can say "50% of Apple's sales are in the US alone."

Please realize that the US is the epicenter of Apple's business. My state is bigger than most countries, and yet the SF area has more stores than all of Washington, and so does the LA area.

Apple will grow into more international locations, but understand that its not nearly as easy infrastructurally or financially as opening a US location.

Just quit already. Sheesh.

 

[autrefois]

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
OK...the outside the US stuff...you guys need to quit crying already. The Japan store is going to open soon. That was absolutely the best choice for the first non-US store, and more will follow.

Stats go two ways. You can say "50% of Apple's sales are international..." or you can say "50% of Apple's sales are in the US alone."

Please realize that the US is the epicenter of Apple's business. My state is bigger than most countries, and yet the SF area has more stores than all of Washington, and so does the LA area.

Apple will grow into more international locations, but understand that its not nearly as easy infrastructurally or financially as opening a US location.

Just quit already. Sheesh.

Originally posted by BaghdadBob
Charlotte? Aint them dumb rednecks too busy skimping on ketchup and watching NASCAR to be into fruity computers?

So complaining about not having an Apple Store near you is apparently reserved only for Americans? (Or rather: non-redneck Americans??)

I think if people like Apple enough to want an Apple Store near them, they should be able to complain if they want to, too.

In most other countries, Windows is even more prevalent than it is here. So of course people who like Macs would want Apple to do more to reverse that trend, wouldn't you?

 

[BaghdadBob]

Look, I know you're new here, so you may not know where I'm coming from.

You can only hear the same thing so many times within reason. Apple is going international, but obviously their core user base is here, and they're catering to it first.

Sure, people can complain if they want to. And I can tell them to quit if I want to. And you can tell me that they can complain if they want to if you want to considering that I wanted to tell them to quit in the first place being the cause of your wanting to state that the people who want to complain can complain if wanting that is up their alley.

Now, I'm sure someone out there has been waiting for the opportunity to jump in with some bitching about international iTunes. Not that there's any reason Apple hasn't done it yet. Not that the whinging has not commenced on enough.

Oh, and since I want to, I'm going to waste more space by complaining about how Macs aren't upgradable like PCs. It's been done before ad infinitum, and discussed, but I want to complain about it, so fair game.

 

[aldo]

At last - it seems they will open a store in england.

It'd only take a maximum of 10 stores to cover most of the UKs large shopping malls.... or a similar amount to cover most the UKs main shopping streets.

The UK has 61million people, which is roughly 1/5 of the US, so surely they can afford to open 1/7 of the amount of stores they have currently in the US in the UK?

The Apple userbase is pitifully small in the UK, mainly because Apple hikes the price up so damn much - and also the lack of advertising around for Apple.

I'm hoping that apple does open some more international stores - even if they were only a few per country....

 

[hesitaliandad]

Originally posted by Sayhey
Second, Apple also now has a certain native son of Tennessee on its board of directors that just might have some pull in Nashville. I can't believe it is not going to happen.

don't get me started on big Al claiming to be from Tennessee. i think you actually have to have lived in that state at one time to claim to be from there. just an aside.

well it sounds like there are plans for a nashville store. Apple isn't stupid. i am sure they know that there are a lot of mac users here. open one up in Cool Springs (wealthy suburb of nashville) and i think it would do quite well. fingers and toes crossed.

 

[Sayhey]

Originally posted by hesitaliandad
don't get me started on big Al claiming to be from Tennessee. i think you actually have to have lived in that state at one time to claim to be from there. just an aside.

well it sounds like there are plans for a nashville store. Apple isn't stupid. i am sure they know that there are a lot of mac users here. open one up in Cool Springs (wealthy suburb of nashville) and i think it would do quite well. fingers and toes crossed.

Didn't mean to start a discussion of Gore's merits (I like the guy), but only to point out that he might have some contacts in the state to move a store forward. Just speculation on my part, and I don't have any real news of a planned Nashville store. It just makes too much sense for there not to be. Of all the places in the US that don't have a store, Nashville would be the top of my list if I was choosing the sites.

 

[Anonymous Freak]

Re: Re: MY LIST!

Originally posted by bastardx
Um, that doesn't make any sense, they already have a store in Washington Square. according to http://www.apple.com/retail/washingtonsquare . So unless they want multiple stores in the Portland area, I don't think that would happen.

Why not? They have multiple stores in cities similarly sized to Portland. The reasoning behind this guess is that Apple's jobs website lists 'Portland - Pioneer Place' as a location.

They listed 'Tigard - Washington Square' as a hiring location a couple months before it opened, too.

 

[Paladin]

Great turnout yesterday morning for the Grand Opening of the North Point store. I was about #50 in line (out of probably 500) at 10:00. Nice to have the free t-shirt, but the store is a little small. I like the Lenox Square store better, though North Point is a little closer to me.

Moving along...I don't see Apple moving to the Greenville-Spartanburg area anytime soon. I was a resident there for a little over four years, and I just don't think that's the demographic to which they're trying to cater. I'd love to see a store on Main Street in Greenville, but it would stick out like a sore thumb. There just aren't any other high class shops in that area. And if not there, then where else would you put it? Haywood Mall? In S.C., Charleston would be the only likely choice.

 

[Anonymous Freak]

Re: Re: Re: MY LIST!

Originally posted by Sayhey
I put this rumor in a thread a while ago and from what I can find out I think Pioneer Place was the first choice in the Portland area but it fell through. The Tigard location is the backup. Not that Apple doesn't like to put more than one store in large metro areas.

Well, there is one unused storefront in Pioneer Place right now, with no 'coming soon' placards. And I doubt Pioneer Place would have trouble filling a spot, so it's a good guess that it's going to be an Apple store. (Since they didn't say 'Apple Store coming soon' at Washington Square, either.)

 

[Sayhey]

Re: Re: Re: Re: MY LIST!

Originally posted by ehurtley
Well, there is one unused storefront in Pioneer Place right now, with no 'coming soon' placards. And I doubt Pioneer Place would have trouble filling a spot, so it's a good guess that it's going to be an Apple store. (Since they didn't say 'Apple Store coming soon' at Washington Square, either.)

I hope you're right. Keep us posted on indications that it is an Apple store in the making.

 

[DavPeanut]

Montgomery Mall

Awsome! I go to Montgomery mall about once a month, but soon ill be going once a week. The mall is like 8 miles from my house. Problem is, I cant get a job there cause you have to be 18, and im only 15.5, so by the time I can get a job there, ill be going off to College. I think they pay floor-staff about $25 an hour.

 

[Mav451]

damn...you're alot younger than i thought haha. Well, start young and get a head start i suppose lol.

I wusn't even into this forum stuff until only a year or 2 ago.

 

[AppleManEric]

Originally posted by bastardx
Um, that doesn't make any sense, they already have a store in Washington Square. according to http://www.apple.com/retail/washingtonsquare . So unless they want multiple stores in the Portland area, I don't think that would happen.

I don't know, the one in washington square is kind of small. It was packed with people when I got my iPod there. I think one in Pioneer Place would kick @$$. It would totally match like the glass building in pioneer place too. I think Portland is fairly mac savvy also, they just don't know it yet.

 

[txcraig75]

Originally posted by itmdramaguy
Why in the world will Apple not open a Apple Store in San Antonio, TX or Austin, TX. It is not easy to drive all the way from SA to Houston or Dallas.

Actually from a traffic standpoint the ideal south central Texas location would be in San Marcos. They could put it in Phase 4,352,612 of one of the two factory outlet malls just south of town. But I honestly think both towns should have one of their own, San Antonio's in the River Center. As for Austin, what better place for an Apple Store selling iPods and music related Apple products than Sixth Street in the heart of the Live Music Capital of the World's downtown entertainment district.

Its pretty bad right now that the best place to test drive an Apple in the Austin area is the University of Texas' Campus Computer store, but you can't buy one unless you are a student, faculty or staff of the University.

 

[Bedawyn]

Originally posted by NinjaMonkey
I agree with that I would never go over to that hole in the earth. Columbia Mall or White Flint wouldn't be so bad. Or some place downtown. But Montgomery mall is just nasty.

Montgomery Mall isn't where I would have chosen. But White Flint or Georgetown, as someone suggested above? Perfect places if you're trying to confirm that Macs are overpriced toys for the wealthy. At least putting it in Montgomery Mall will counteract that impression. And, hey, anywhere closer than NoVA is good for me!

(Of course, I'm sure the first time I go out there I'll still be whimpering about "Why couldn't they have put it on the Pike?")

 

[judith]

Originally posted by coolbreeze
Please, there are rednecks in every corner of this country. I travel to a different city every couple weeks, and know firsthand how the "redneck" stereotype is not specific to the South. I've seen some of the most hideous rednecks in upstate NY. I've seen some homely folks with NASCAR stickers in your beautiful state of WA (when I was working at Keyport). And Maryland, Virginia, and Ohio. I could go on forever.

My point is if you leave any city (where Apple places it's stores ) you will find rednecks. Bottom line. I don't care where you are. So, get out more and see the world. You'll see what I'm talking about.

Apple needs stores in the South (besides just Atlanta) to diversify it's brand. The type of people in the South that would buy a Mac are just like you and everyone else that owns a Mac. Bubba and Skeeter will never be in the market for an Apple, even if a Dual G5 is given to them free.

By the way, please don't come to Charleston. You will not want to leave, and we have enough transplants here already!!

I am so pleased you felt this way regarding Baghdad Bob's comment - you simply MUST see this thread to make any sense of it. All though most of the commentary was deleted, BB and I both made arguements very similar to yours, which is why (I'm assuming) he made the statements he did here. I for one was enraged at the insult to 'the South' and "NASCAR" as being too ignorant a market for Apple products, when obviously, those accusors ( which will remain un-named so they don't "tell teacher" they're being picked on) were ignorant plain and simple.

 

[supertex]

Originally posted by judith
I am so pleased you felt this way regarding Baghdad Bob's comment - you simply MUST see this thread to make any sense of it. All though most of the commentary was deleted, BB and I both made arguements very similar to yours, which is why (I'm assuming) he made the statements he did here. I for one was enraged at the insult to 'the South' and "NASCAR" as being too ignorant a market for Apple products, when obviously, those accusors ( which will remain un-named so they don't "tell teacher" they're being picked on) were ignorant plain and simple.

True True, For those of you who claim that NASCAR is for the ignorant, just think about the engineering that has to go into building an engine that'll turn 9,000+ RPMs for most of a season, not to mention safety systems that allow a driver to go skipping across the infield end over end five or six times, and then climbing right out and waving to the crowd without bursting into flames. If you can do it, then good for you, but I know I'm not that smart. NASCAR is an advanced research lab for auto manufacturers, and most NASCAR fans have forgotten more about the intricacies of automotive systems than you could ever hope to know. YEESH you think 'cause somebody doesn't play golf and sip tea on Sundays that they're stupid, get over yourself...

 

[Sayhey]

I'm not quite sure what NASCAR, golf, or Sunday tea has to do with Apple's retail stores? I do know that Apple is opening stores all across the country, including the South. Right now, Florida is leading the way in the region, but I'm sure with all the planned and rumored openings that there will be many more throughout the South. If any US region has a right to complain it would be the Plains states. I don't see a big push to get a store in the Dakotas, Wyoming, or Montana. Nebraska or Iowa, maybe, but the northern plains is in for a long wait, IMO.

At some point Apple will move to concentrate on opening stores in overseas markets and the number of US openings will decrease each year. I don't think we are there yet or will be for a few years, but just how many stores will they open in the US? Will Apple go as high as 120 or 130 US locations? I don't know, but they have made it clear they aren't about to challenge Gateway for number of locations.

 

[c2kvette]

I always wondered why Durham, NC got an Apple Store before Charlotte. I suppose it's because of all the universties in that area.

But, for those that don't know, SouthPark is a very upscale area in Charlotte.
I can't wait for the store to open in Charlotte, it's about 30 mintues away from me, buts thats cool. About the size though 4,000 square feet. Is that the normal size of an Apple store, or is this small??

I'm hoping to get a part-time job there, it's opening in March 2004.