b348xyx

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Does anyone have information, if the new Apple TV will support YouTube 4k at 60FPS, and also HDR playback on YouTube ?


old one was limit to 4k 30, or 1440p 60fps.. hoping this limitation has now gone..

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-Gonzo-

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Being a new device won’t change anything, the balls in Google’s court on that one as they need to make these things happen with their app.
There’s no reason why the current ATV4K can’t do theses things but for some reason Google have decided to restrict these things.
Just like Match Frame Rate used to work with the previous version of the YouTube app but for some unknown reason they took that functionality away.
Probably amongst the same reasons why they restrict resolution on Movies depending on which device you’re using too.
 
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Because YouTube uses Google's own codec for 4K (VP9) and HDR (VP9.2), that is not natively supported on Apple media playback framework, they would need to take the Infuse approach - decode it on the spot.
 

b348xyx

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I thought the A12 chip is able to process 4k video better, hoping the 4k 60fps option on YouTube would appear..

I use YouTube so much and returned my last Apple TV and the built in app on LG TV was sooo much nicer and works fine in 4k 60fps. google very much seem to be intentionally not updating the Apple TV version.. which is annoying
 

b348xyx

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If anyone receive's there new Apple TV let us know if YouTube updated support for 4k 60.
 

Paul Cordingley

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HDR is not working for me on YouTube. HDR is working on TV and movies, and 60Hz is finally working in YouTube, but no HDR. Same for AirPlaying videos from the iPhone - HDR is just not there.

This is across two new Apple TVs and two different TVs.
 

b348xyx

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Looks like I will be finally ordering then !

Is the Apple TV YouTube app still pretty rubbish compared to LG TV version ? wondering if google will ever update the apple YouTube app to decent level.
 
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corkscrew24

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It’s okay, it does do HDR. You now have to always have HDR/Dolby Vision enabled and the ATV will tone-map (with Dynamic Matching on) down to SDR - interesting, but works well.
Where did you find out this? I've read conflicting things about whether I should have the ATV in SDR or Dolby Vision / HDR by default?
 

b348xyx

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Does the TV have to be 2.1 HDMI to support the 4K 60fps?

or does it need to be 2.1 hdmi to support 4K 60fps hdr ?
 

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I cannot get HDR to work on my original ATV 4K using YouTube no matter what I play. I use standard HDR with frame matching etc on. Using HBO Max dolby vision etc works fine.
 

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Yes it does but you have to manually change the video settings to match as YouTube still doesn’t support dynamic range and frame rate matching.
I think it possibly does support dynamic range matching.

My new ATV4K is set to 50Hz SDR. The video I linked to above played in the rec.2020 colour space (according to Stats for Nerds) and HDR on my TV was triggered, while other videos played in BT.709.

Frame rate matching is not supported though (everything plays back at 50Hz unless I manually switch the refresh rate).

EDIT - worked out that it DOES NOT have dynamic range matching. Turns out that when I used the power button to switch off the ATV, it lost the switch from HDR to SDR and had reverted to HDR. Oh well...
 
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I cannot get HDR to work on my original ATV 4K using YouTube no matter what I play. I use standard HDR with frame matching etc on. Using HBO Max dolby vision etc works fine.
HDR isn’t supported in YouTube on the original ATV4K, it’s only available on the new ATV4K.
 

-Gonzo-

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I think it possibly does support dynamic range matching.

My new ATV4K is set to 50Hz SDR. The video I linked to above played in the rec.2020 colour space (according to Stats for Nerds) and HDR on my TV was triggered, while other videos played in BT.709.

Frame rate matching is not supported though (everything plays back at 50Hz unless I manually switch the refresh rate).
Annoyingly though the stats for nerds shows movies for example are playing back @24hz yet the TV remains at whatever you’ve got the ATV set to.
 

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Just plugged in my new 4k ATV and I find my 3 year old 4k TV loves it. Youtube is great, colors on the screen seem to pop and much more life like picture all around. Same is true with my iTunes movies. Detail is much better for me. For me it's like a new TV, well is an improvement of my old 4k ATV. Of course, everyone's experience is different.
 
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Where did you find out this? I've read conflicting things about whether I should have the ATV in SDR or Dolby Vision / HDR by default?

This depends on your TV. For my Sony with HDMI 2.1 ports, I’ll need to go into settings of the TV to change the input from standard to Enhanced Format or Dolby Vision to get up to 120 refresh rate. Unfortunate, there isn’t an automatic option to switch based on the viewing content.
 

ant the ninja

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I’m not going to keep my OLED in DV/HDR mode, it makes everything too bright. Do we think that YouTube will ever support match dynamic range? I love the new remote and the system seems like it runs slightly quicker but that’s kind of annoying that YouTube still doesn’t auto trigger.
 
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