Don't really see much point upgrading tbh from existing ATV4K
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New Apple TV 4K Supports WiFi 6, Thread and HDMI 2.1
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Dammit! I wanted to upgrade from my two ATV 4K but no eARC pass through audio is a no go for me (Plex).
My ATV is wired so don’t care about WiFi 6. Usually I use my iPhone as a remote anyways so I don’t care much about the remote.
My LG OLED TVs already do most of what my current ATV does in terms of apps. Games? Meh... don’t like mobile games (dedicated gaming PC + PS5).
Only thing I find ATV useful is Photos, Music, HomeKit, and some apps like FuboTV not being available on LG store yet. Still, the services that I use ATV for are used very rarely. LG apps provide better audio and picture quality at the moment. Hoping that ATV allows pass through audio as a surprise when released and fixes some picture quality issues.
My ATV is wired so don’t care about WiFi 6. Usually I use my iPhone as a remote anyways so I don’t care much about the remote.
My LG OLED TVs already do most of what my current ATV does in terms of apps. Games? Meh... don’t like mobile games (dedicated gaming PC + PS5).
Only thing I find ATV useful is Photos, Music, HomeKit, and some apps like FuboTV not being available on LG store yet. Still, the services that I use ATV for are used very rarely. LG apps provide better audio and picture quality at the moment. Hoping that ATV allows pass through audio as a surprise when released and fixes some picture quality issues.
I agree. I understand the cost would increase, but at least give us the option? What I think makes the choice of A12 only even more strange is that Apple is also pushing Apple Arcade on the Apple TV and there we now have a bunch of PC/Windows and console level games such as NBA 2K21, The Pathless, Beyond a Steel Sky and other quite demanding games – and what about coming releases?
But as long as you're happy with low graphics settings and and/or low frame rates I guess everything is fine.
But maybe a more powerful Apple TV is in the pipe, or will it take four more years to get one with A14 or M1? 🤔
You were wrong about the rest of your paragraph lol nice try thoughI was right about the Xbox Series X and PS5. And 4K/DV support via built-in app is limited to specific TVs, not all.
So that makes you wrong
I have that shut off. It's a hindrance. It will outright turn off WiFi on things that should be connected at a constant... like alarm systems, IoT devices, streaming boxes/sticks, your computer as you're using it... in short, *everything* needs to support WiFi 6 for OFDMA to work properly (or maybe it'll still suck even then). But that'll be the first thing you turn off.
Many people with a decent home threatre setup, even a modest one don’t have the Apple TV under or close to the tv. Some it’s not even in the same room.
I would recommend a universal remote if the remote is that big of a deal for you. One can do much better than an Apple TV remote if that’s the issue
Obviously you’ve not had any OLEDS by LG or Sony with the Apple TV app built in it in the last 5 years...
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Shield is much more powerful overall for people that care about true quality video AND audio in their home theatre or media room setup
I have both of them of the latest versions btw
I have the previous 4K and have no intention to buy the new one. I don’t even have one reason.
2 words. And the existing 4K ATV will have it too.
eARC is not something playback devices support. Its sole purpose is to enable display devices to send uncompressed audio to an AV receiver or active speaker ("soundbar") through the same HDMI connection that feeds video to the display device.
High bandwidth audio means LPCM with more than 2 channels, Dolby TrueHD (with or without Atmos), or DTS-HD Master Audio (or DTS:X).
This only matters, and only ever will matter, for Blu-Ray players attached directly to a TV instead of the AV receiver or soundbar, or for playback devices that for some reason want to decode compressed audio to LPCM (or, like a gaming console, generate LPCM audio).
Online streaming, for bandwidth reasons, never will use Dolby TrueHD or DTS:X. It's all Dolby Digital Plus, everywhere, which can also encapsulate additional metadata to make it Dolby Atmos.
Apple TV can send a TV or an AV receiver (whatever it's plugged into) compressed or uncompressed audio, that has nothing to do with eARC.
That is coming to the older ones also
Out of all of the announcements, the new ATV 4K with Wifi 6 is the thing I'm most interested in buying. I owned a number of iPad Pro's but never used them, the tags are pretty cool, but I don't really have any use for them. And I already have an iMac.
mrno00 got in an answer before me:
New Apple TV 4K Supports WiFi 6, Thread and HDMI 2.1
Pass-through is most likely saying about "pass the raw audio data to the receiver", the audio quality is really different between "decode by set then send compressed audio data and play" and "decode raw audio data by special hardware and play", that's the reason why pass-through is important...
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But to expand a little bit. The AppleTV supports up to 7.1 Dolby Digital Plus + Atmos. The AppleTV receives a compressed E-AC-3 stream, which is then decompressed on the device and sent to the receiving device as a uncompressed PCM audio. The simple reason for this is to allow other audio from the device (Siri etc.) to be mixed into the audio stream.
The downside of this is we are limited by the choices Apple makes on what audio formats the AppleTV will support, such as no support for TrueHD. The other downside of this approach is it limits the ability for the AV receiver to perform modifications/improvements to the audio in the process of decoding.
If Apple supported audio passthrough, then it wouldn't matter what formats the AppleTV supports, and would instead be determined by the AV receiver.
What Apple needs to do is give the user the option to enable audio passthrough. This could be done with a prompt to advise the user that other AppleTV features such Siri will be unavailable.
If you pair Homepods to an Apple TV with eARC then when watching sources like Cable/Sat or OTA or Bluray on the TV the audio can be played Homepods.
that dude should stop worrying about getting new remotes or apple tvs and stuff, and get a 4K tv already!
I don't see the value of $150 here. This could be a cheap streaming dongle like chromecast over a dedicated device to stream iTunes. The most expensive Roku stick is like $70 and I think has more usability than this.
Agreed. The remote is great, but beyond that HFR is the only real difference (and it looks like that might just be a software profile). As a Harmony user that’s not enough. Upgraders don’t even get the free TV+ subscription.
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Look no further than this brand of cables : AudioQuest
I personally have this one connected between AppleTV and Marantz AV receiver and one more from the receiver to my 4K Samsung TV :
AudioQuest 0.6m Cinnamon 48 2.1 HDMI Cable - 8K/10K Ultra HD, Gaming, High-Speed, 48Gbps, HDR, eARC
Cinnamon 48 features high-purity Solid 1.25% Silver conductors and Level 3 Noise-Dissipation for the most efficient dissipation of radio-frequency noise.
www.audioquest.com
And yes (after testing back and fourth multiple times) you most definitely can see the difference in better (like sharper and more vivid) image and colour reproduction on screen. Never had any stuttering with this cables, after many others just failed ! Ok, it sure is quit pricy but well worth the investment and it's also future proof if you ask me, for years to come. Even the cheapest one (those from the Pearl series) knocks out most other cables in quality and data throughput.
Hope this helps you