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Ummm how would you use siri? I feel like that is a big feature that will be utilized even with 3rd party apps.

I hope not as Siri on the new appleTV is only going to be available in 8 countries, everyone else just gets a remote.
 
I'm definitely going to be getting one to upgrade from my 2nd gen unit. This will be a great fit for my apartment. Give the 2nd gen to my mom so she doesn't have to deal with the lousy netflix app on her bluray player.
 
Definitely getting one as soon as available. Just hope the quality looks like the demo. Current ATV for me is up and down brightness. It's like someone turns up and down the brightness switch continually.
 
4K content and the amount of 4K users is still low. Compare 4K content now to 1080p content when the ATV2 was launched. 1080p was everywhere then, and Apple still did 720p.

It would be different if iTunes had 4K content, and my guess is that when that does happen, ATV5 or 6 will have 4K.
You now have a phone that can shoot 4K video, but it has no way of displaying the full resolution to anything except the 5K Mac.

That makes the 4K video portion of the new iPhone useless.

BTW I wonder how much 4K Video the 16GB can hold. How much 4K video the 64GB can hold? And how much the 128GB can hold.
 
They had me at App Store!! That's what I've been waiting for on an Apple TV! My dream of being able to use one "TV box" to access all of my content across all the services I use (iTunes, Netflix, Hulu, YouTube, Vudu and Amazon) may actually come true now. Right now I have to switch between my Apple TV and PS4 to access all my content so, hopefully Apple allows competitors like Amazon and Vudu to make apps for the new Apple TV, putting an end to this annoying problem!

I bought my Apple TV 2 in January 2012, then the Apple TV 3 came out a few months later. The 720p from my 2 looked fine so I didn't feel compelled to upgrade to the 3. A few years later I started getting the itch to upgrade to the 3 after receiving a Roku that was 1080p capable. I held off, thinking that a new Apple TV was right around the corner but, it never came. I didn't want to buy a 3 and the next on come out a few months later like when I bought the 2.

I've been waiting for this for a long time and I think the new device looks great. An app store is what was really needed to compete with the other TV boxes. I just hope Apple doesn't get to restrictive about what they allow in the Apple TV app store. Come on Vudu and Amazon Instant apps!
 
Ultimately I want to be able to search across all content that's available to me - OTA TV, cable, rentals and no-additional-charge movies and programs from various providers, and stuff that I've purchased. For that matter, Apple TV should be able to do something similar for photos and music. Getting there will take more time, in part because of licensing requirements. Still, the new Apple TV is a step in the right direction and I will probably get one when it comes out.


I agree that " all content search" is the holy grail; and that it will take a while to get there, because it is heavy lifting. I don't think there are licensing issues, though; Apple needs access to meta data, not rights to actual content. The challenge is that the meta data would be coming in from zillions of sources in many different formats.
 
Why doesn't Apple add support for FaceTime to Apple TV? They could allow people to hook up an HD camera to Apple TV and then they could face time from their TV.
 
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I must say that's a good idea, given that you can use iOS devices to control the Apple TV and those of us in the ecosystem already have plenty of those.

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It's only a good idea if what was announced this week is Apple's end-game. But as many have noted, the ultimate goal should be "universal" search; and that would require Siri integration with a universal remote. And "universal remote" is not a capability of any existing iPhone; nor does Logitech Harmony support Siri. If that's what Apple is shooting fo,r and if they expect to make sufficient progress toward that inside the year, then unbundling the remote compromises the overall strategy.
 
I really wanted to like new Apple TV but unfortunately I'm far from impressed. Siri on Apple TV, great so it might have better search but is that really it. It seems that Apple is waiting for some developers to come up with a killer app or something. In all honesty jail broken ATV2 is far more powerful than new Apple TV which I find very sad indeed. I wanted something which would have ingested all consumable media from on-demand to live and allowed me to effectively search it from one single uniform interface. I wanted something that would have changed my TV watching and instead I was given just another voice control option. Oh why oh why...
 
But no one realistically expected 4K support at this point. It's quite obviously a perfect upgrade for a future incremental update. Though I don't see it coming too soon. Too much of a niche market for now.

What do you mean? Based on the responses of posters in this forum, there clearly are at least DOZENS of 4K TV owners right now.
 
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Why doesn't Apple add support for FaceTime to Apple TV?

This goes with my comment earlier, they didn't solve the account/profile issue with iOS so expect to see some weirdness when it comes to stuff like facetime, game center, or anything else that normally expect to be interacting with a single owner.
 
I feel this product shows the difference between Jobs and Cook. Steve would have hammered on this till it was perfect, NO 4K are you serious! This seems like a half baked idea not a revolutionary product. However, I will be purchasing it...
 
There's not enough content actually filmed in 4K, that's the point. Most movies and TV shows are filmed in 2K. 4K is a marketing scam at this moment in time. It will be a different story in a couple of years, however as it is now, there's no good reason to buy into 4K.

Actually most of the movies shot over the past 10 years were shot in 4k or 8k. The masters are then down converted for other media sizes.

Just like HD... when HD was coming out people said there was no HD content, however that wasn't true as shows like Cheers and Hogan Heros was shot on film at better than HD resolutions. Which is why those show while never originally shown in HD were in HD when HD Net was still around.

Just because you think there is no 4K content available does not mean its not available and ready to go.

I am currently beta testing two different satellite receivers and both do 4K. I also work with a major TV Network who has been producing many hours a day of original programming in full 4K. And it is expected that this LIVE LINEAR 4K Channel will be available early next year. Its ready to go now, its just waiting for the Home Providers to get their equipment working correctly. :)

People who are saying that 4K is not selling have not been TV shopping in awhile, walk into a Sams Club or best buy and over half of the TV's now are 4K. Hell walk into Walkmart where they now have 4 or 5 4k models on sale.

If I were to guess I would say in another 2 - 3 years from now you will have a hard time finding a new 1080p set to buy. 4K is pushing out the older TV as the cost differences are not far off now.
 
Why doesn't Apple add support for FaceTime to Apple TV? They could allow people to hook up an HD camera to Apple TV and then they could face time from their TV.

I'm sure it will come. I wouldn't be surprised if they come out with a little iSight camera that you can put somewhere in your living room that connects via Bluetooth to the Apple TV. That opens up doors for video conferencing, home security, and living room selfies. Especially if Apple is serious about gaming, they could come up with something along the lines of Xbox Kinect.
 
Actually most of the movies shot over the past 10 years were shot in 4k or 8k. The masters are then down converted for other media sizes.

Just like HD... when HD was coming out people said there was no HD content, however that wasn't true as shows like Cheers and Hogan Heros was shot on film at better than HD resolutions. Which is why those show while never originally shown in HD were in HD when HD Net was still around.

Just because you think there is no 4K content available does not mean its not available and ready to go.

I am currently beta testing two different satellite receivers and both do 4K. I also work with a major TV Network who has been producing many hours a day of original programming in full 4K. And it is expected that this LIVE LINEAR 4K Channel will be available early next year. Its ready to go now, its just waiting for the Home Providers to get their equipment working correctly. :)

People who are saying that 4K is not selling have not been TV shopping in awhile, walk into a Sams Club or best buy and over half of the TV's now are 4K. Hell walk into Walkmart where they now have 4 or 5 4k models on sale.

If I were to guess I would say in another 2 - 3 years from now you will have a hard time finding a new 1080p set to buy. 4K is pushing out the older TV as the cost differences are not far off now.

Yea but the early adopters got 4k at 30 Hz, suckers!
 
why does the remote have so many buttons

what the hell does that airplay button do

this is so annoying
 
I suppose it may be too much to expect the device to finally be compatible with MKV files??
 
I agree that " all content search" is the holy grail; and that it will take a while to get there, because it is heavy lifting. I don't think there are licensing issues, though; Apple needs access to meta data, not rights to actual content. The challenge is that the meta data would be coming in from zillions of sources in many different formats.

You're right in saying that access to metadata is sufficient to present a list of content that meets the user's search criteria. But what if some of that content can't be viewed through the Apple TV? I think that Apple's goal is to offer a la carte or packaged access to programming that is currently only available from cable, satellite, and other providers, hence the need for licensing.
 
Why supply 4K content for no devices that can play it on 4K TVs? Hardware must come first.

This. Also, it's a moot point as you can get a decent 4k TV for like, a grand now. A few years ago you couldn't even get a decent 1080p TV for that. This constant myth that 4k TVs are going to take years to fill out is silly...for anyone considering a new TV now or in the last 6 months, it's been a more than viable option, one that many have decided to go with.
 
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