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New Apple TV This Year Likely to Support Wi-Fi 7
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Look buddy, go ask any AI model right now, they’ll tell you how it actually works which I just detailed to you.
I know you don’t get it, go search it.
Nope it requires iCloud for 4K resolution. You are only getting 1080p output sorry to break it to you.
Sorry to tell ya son, but that is purposefully vague and disingenuous. What that is saying is simply that you MUST have an Apple TV 4K not the older 1080P Apple TV in order to get the 4K stream.
In all cases the stream is only in 4K by fetching it from iCloud. If the video is not in iCloud it will only stream in 1080p.
You can go ask AI models or search on Google and find the correct answer which is exactly what I’ve been telling you.
AirPlay. Is and always has been absolute garbage. That’s just the simple truth.
Oh come on.
Now you're just having a laugh. Documentation shows the it's not correct (Apple and third party) and logic shows that it would be a silly flaw. You also appear not to have even tried it. But here you go:
With regards to Airplay2 and 4K streaming, is this statement correct?
Key Points Research suggests AirPlay 2 can stream 4K video directly from device to device for local content, like videos in the Photos app, when using compatible devices such as Apple TV 4K. It seems likely that for streaming apps, AirPlay 2 may instruct the receiving device to pull 4K content...
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AirPlay 2 does support 4K video streaming from device to device for local content, such as videos stored in the Photos app on an iPhone or iPad, when paired with an Apple TV 4K. This means you can watch your 4K videos on your TV without downscaling, provided both devices support 4K HDR. However, for streaming apps like the Apple TV app or Netflix, it often works by telling the receiving device, like your TV or Apple TV, to stream the 4K content directly from the internet, rather than sending the video data from your device.
An unexpected detail is that while screen mirroring via AirPlay is limited to 1080p, basic AirPlay can handle 4K for specific use cases, which might surprise users expecting uniform limitations. This dual approach—direct streaming for local files and server-directed streaming for apps—makes the original statement partially true for apps but incorrect overall, as it claims AirPlay 2 cannot stream 4K device to device at all.
Like I said, I think you're mixing up streaming and mirroring. Have you actually tried it?
no it does not
like I said, I don't use iCloud for Photos
I guess you haven't actually tried it yet and are just so convinced that what you read on the internet somewhere is right that you don't want to find out you are wrong
nope. you are still incorrect
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why would I look for wrong information on the internet when I can literally see it working myself
Oh come on.
But here you go:
With regards to Airplay2 and 4K streaming, is this statement correct?
Key Points Research suggests AirPlay 2 can stream 4K video directly from device to device for local content, like videos in the Photos app, when using compatible devices such as Apple TV 4K. It seems likely that for streaming apps, AirPlay 2 may instruct the receiving device to pull 4K content...
Direct Answer
AirPlay 2 does support 4K video streaming from device to device for local content, such as videos stored in the Photos app on an iPhone or iPad, when paired with an Apple TV 4K. This means you can watch your 4K videos on your TV without downscaling, provided both devices support 4K HDR. However, for streaming apps like the Apple TV app or Netflix, it often works by telling the receiving device, like your TV or Apple TV, to stream the 4K content directly from the internet, rather than sending the video data from your device.
An unexpected detail is that while screen mirroring via AirPlay is limited to 1080p, basic AirPlay can handle 4K for specific use cases, which might surprise users expecting uniform limitations. This dual approach—direct streaming for local files and server-directed streaming for apps—makes the original statement partially true for apps but incorrect overall, as it claims AirPlay 2 cannot stream 4K device to device at all.
Like I said, I think you're mixing up streaming
Nope it does not stream 4K without internet. Again airplay is worthless. It is a fetching service not a legit streaming
Nope AirPlay 2 and any AirPlay cannot stream device-to-device 4K without internet. Why? Because it doesn’t support that bandwidth. It forces the other device to fetch the stream from the internet via iCloud in the case of Photos app, or via official third-party servers in the case of YouTube or elsewhere.Oh come on.
But here you go:
With regards to Airplay2 and 4K streaming, is this statement correct?
Key Points Research suggests AirPlay 2 can stream 4K video directly from device to device for local content, like videos in the Photos app, when using compatible devices such as Apple TV 4K. It seems likely that for streaming apps, AirPlay 2 may instruct the receiving device to pull 4K content...
Direct Answer
AirPlay 2 does support 4K video streaming from device to device for local content, such as videos stored in the Photos app on an iPhone or iPad, when paired with an Apple TV 4K. This means you can watch your 4K videos on your TV without downscaling, provided both devices support 4K HDR. However, for streaming apps like the Apple TV app or Netflix, it often works by telling the receiving device, like your TV or Apple TV, to stream the 4K content directly from the internet, rather than sending the video data from your device.
An unexpected detail is that while screen mirroring via AirPlay is limited to 1080p, basic AirPlay can handle 4K for specific use cases, which might surprise users expecting uniform limitations. This dual approach—direct streaming for local files and server-directed streaming for apps—makes the original statement partially true for apps but incorrect overall, as it claims AirPlay 2 cannot stream 4K device to device at all.
Like I said, I think you're mixing up streaming and mirroring. Have you actually tried it?
There is no airplay 4K without internet. Same thing for screen mirroring and it’s EXACTLY WHY screen mirroring is capped to 1080p because SCREEN MIRRORING IS AIRPLAY. They are the same thing, you can’t have 1 without the other. Mirroring is just a special name to say that you are putting your device’s display directly on the screen rather than only music or only video.
They're not the same thing.
You haven't tried it and have no citations. You're literally just making stuff up.
it absolutely streams 4k without internet
again, have you tried???
why do you insist on ********ting instead of learning the truth for yourself?
I have tried. It is limited to 1080p unless your airplay device is connected to the internet and fetching from iCloud or streaming apps.
maybe a limitation of your wifi environment then
it absolutely works here iPhone mini to Apple TV 4K 2nd gen. no internet. streams 4k
These are both very true, and you're not telling me anything I didn't already know. And yet, Apple sees the Apple TV as fundamentally a video / home theater device, and are thus highly unlikely to add a connector to it that does not support modern multichannel home theater audio formats.
I have relatives who use their Apple TV with an HDMI audio extractor (many available from Amazon for under $50), that passes through the original HDMI signal unmodified, and while also copying the audio signal out to a TosLink port, which they then feed into a Sonos Beam (this because their TV is old enough to not properly support ARC/eARC). Doing similar is your easiest path to a digital audio signal on a TosLink port. Apple is not going to put TosLink on a new Apple TV.
for sure
I never imagined they would add a port
Was just saying that it can still output two channel audio
For my purposes hdmi pass thru to toslink out from my tv is sufficient for my purposes
Sorry who’s incorrect about what exactly?
You are completely wrong about everything here so I’m quite curious
Not my experience with my Samsung Frame (2020). Fast as hell and updated regularly and seamlessly. I am a loyal Apple guy, but Apple TV's are becoming obsolete, especially at the price point. Airplay from my phone or
Mac works flawlessly on the Samsung and I don't have to bother firing up Apple TV.
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Yeah, I am not one of these paranoid conspiracy people. Good point on the lossless. I don't think Apple Music on my Samsung does that, but it can do it from Apple TV. I don't listen to music much on my system these days, but valid point.
You don’t have to be a paranoid conspiracy theorist to find an operating system being inundated with ads annoying
You used the term "surveillance nightmares". We are the gadget geeks and apple geeks that follow Apple Products, I find it hard to believe 90% of America will pay for $150 bucks for a break out box when they can get the same or "good enough" on their smart TV or $20 Roku. Same with Lossless, I don't think that ability will be driving the market to massive Apple TV sales.
I still wonder when, not if, Apple will stop making these.