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New Apple TV With A12 Chip or Later Uncovered in tvOS 13.4 Beta
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I would much rather see a larger storage size option than the A12. I would like at least 256GB, but with how much Apple charges for storage, who knows how much a new ATV would be with larger storage sizes.
The A12 isn't really a faster chip than the A10X.
Benchmarks have them about even GPU wise, and some developers claimed that in real world performance, the A10X out performs the A12.
Some places in the US are much higher, and can be priced about $220.
I think $200+ is not an unreasonable thing to say about the price of a ATV4K.
The A12 isn't really a faster chip than the A10X.
Benchmarks have them about even GPU wise, and some developers claimed that in real world performance, the A10X out performs the A12.
Average sales tax in the US would put the price about $192 for the 32GB and $213 for the 64GB ATV4K.
Some places in the US are much higher, and can be priced about $220.
I think $200+ is not an unreasonable thing to say about the price of a ATV4K.
The article is from February. If a new Apple TV came out now it'd more likely be an A14 as it says already in the article "A12 Bionic chip or newer"
I stand corrected. Average sales tax in US is 7.12% according to AARP
To be really, really fair, many people, including myself, love the remote, and you can always use your own remote with the AppleTV
While the article is 10 month old, the information in it is still misleading/inaccurate regardless of when it was posted.
Also, while it mentions "or newer", it still includes the A12 multiple times, and is the only Apple chip mentioned by name.
Someone finding this article may get the wrong impression that if Apple releases an ATV with an A12, that it would be a performance boost for Apple Arcade over the current A10X. It would basically be on par with the A10X, if not maybe a little less powerful for GPU related tasks.
And that's exactly the reason why Apple wouldn't release a new Apple TV with an A12 chip. It makes no sense.
If you read the original article on 9to5mac (the link is broken, there's a 'w' missing), you will find the reason why the A12 is mentioned at all: "We don’t know what exactly the new features of this Apple TV are, but the internal files of tvOS 13.4 suggest that the hardware is based on the arm64e architecture, the same used in both A12 and A13 Bionic chips". So the ONLY reason to mention the A12 (and A13) is the same architecture it is based on. That does in no way mean that the A12 is a likely candidate for the next Apple TV, especially if you think of the fact that the A14 (naturally also on the same architecture) wasn't even announced yet back then. What sites like 9to5 or MacRumors write is only their own interpretation of the information found in iOS 13.4 but an A14(X) would be the only chip that makes actual sense for a new Apple TV.
Fair enough. Each to their own. When I first used it I thought it was clever but after a short while I realised just how inaccurate the horizontal scrolling to select letters is when entering anything (so much easier to use your phone if you can). YMMV and if you like it then fair play to you.
I'd prefer a new remote that's more like the LG magic "wand" where you can point to things to select them - it's just more accurate than the current implementation IMHO.
Who’s saying it will be 8k? Do you mean hdmi 2.1? I highly doubt it for a streaming box. There won’t be any content for that for at least another 3-5 years.
While I agree with you in thinking that the new ATV will not have an A12 (at least not only a A12, I wouldn't go as far and say that it makes no sense for Apple to do it.
There could be multiple reasons for Apple to want to drop the A10X for the A12, although, I would bet that those reasons would have little to do with the end-user experience, and more to do with Apple's bottomline and/or long term SW support plans.
The A10X is not used any device on the current Apple line up, with the exception of the ATV4K, but the A12 is used on multiple devices currently on the line up. Apple could be dropping the A10X for the more widely used A12.
Here are more rumors about a A12 ATV:
Nikkei: Apple Working on New Apple TV for Release Next Year
Multiple rumors have indicated that Apple is working on a refreshed version of the Apple TV, and a report today by Nikkei Asia Review adds to speculation that Apple will release a new version of its set-top box next year. Cites sources familiar with Apple's plans, Nikkei's Apple TV mention...
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This seems to support the theory that if there is an A12 ATV coming, it will not be alone, and there will be more powerful models launched at the same time.
They all base on the same iOS 13.4 information though. So I wouldn't give these "rumours" about an A12 too much weight, they're more speculation than anything else. The only real rumours speak of an A12X (by Jon Prosser, makes at least more sense than the base model) and an A14 (by a "trusted source").
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if it were long term support an A12Z would probably better match SoC configurations in terms of application and GPU core counts better than a A12. The issue with the Apple TV is that they are likely to go back into another 2-3 (perhaps 4 ) year lull where they do nothing. So need to pick a SoC that will also being up to the task 1.5-2 years from now with whatever the GPU load is in the future. A A12Z would probably do that better than a A12.
If selecting only from the 'plain' A-series then a A13 would have more longevity legs than a A12 in the Q1-2021 timeframe. Especially, in the context of long term Ai/ML code support.
Number of units sold doesn't do particularly much for Apple long term support. It is when the product was last for sale (replaced) . And the A12's in Phones are only being held up by the XR at this point. There is an iPad 2020 that will probably generate more sold.
Additionally, maximum "units sold" criteria couldn't really have been how the A10X got into the current Apple TV. Probably not going to be the criteria on the next one .
if Apple is out to keep the same price point on the AppleTV then soaking up the "paid for" A12Z production after the iPad Pro moves onto A14X would make sense. The A10X was only ever in one other product iPad Pro ( removing the largely minor variation on screen size).
Here are more rumors about a A12 ATV:
Nikkei: Apple Working on New Apple TV for Release Next Year
Multiple rumors have indicated that Apple is working on a refreshed version of the Apple TV, and a report today by Nikkei Asia Review adds to speculation that Apple will release a new version of its set-top box next year. Cites sources familiar with Apple's plans, Nikkei's Apple TV mention...
This seems to support the theory that if there is an A12 ATV coming, it will not be alone, and there will be more powerful models launched at the same time.
I think there is a strong desire among some that Apple move to a 'plain' iPhone SoC so that the price of the future Apple TV will drop. The 'rumors' only roughly point to something with a A12 era architecture as a minimal implementation level. That could be an A12X ( or A12Z since exactly the same die) or something further down the line.
With AppleTV+ rolling out on AndroidTV streaming devices in 2021 ( and embedded already on some AndroidTVs) , on RokU and FireTV , gaming consoles , etc. a lower priced AppleTV probably isn't going to do much for folks that solely just want to use it as a streamer. Apple could make AppleTV better at being a HomeKit server (secure video processor , etc ) . A more affordable gaming console. And some other value add things. For most of those the A12 doesn't lend much deep leverage to relative to the alternatives.