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Hey whatever you say.
You're the one that's assuming and ignoring facts. :D


You are amazing. How can you assume I don't go to games regularly? Or that the games I have been to were sell outs or empty? I never mentioned crowd size -- you just assumed it. But I did mention I was with people on other networks but you keep ignoring that fact. Why?

But for the record I've had season tix for the Nats for about ten years so I've got a good history of being in the park during sell outs and freeze outs. I experienced the "old days" when, yes, no cell service no matter who the provider was due to a crowd. But that isn't the case anymore. Both MLB and NFL stadiums have made serious efforts in the past few years to install relays inside the stadium. Cell service has vastly improved since then, well, apparently except for TMob. Maybe Sprint too but I don't know anyone on Sprint.
 
Hey whatever you say.
You're the one that's assuming and ignoring facts. :D


Such as? Please be specific on what I'm assuming about my own experiences. What facts am I ignoring? Don't be coy.

All I read in your posts is assumptions dismissing my own experiences. But that isn't the reality.
 
He's the one overgeneralizing that "Tmobile only works inside their neighborhood"
Whatever that means :D
But I agree, it all varies by location like I mentioned many times above. Not every carrier is perfect everywhere.
They all have bad and good areas.

So stop pretending TMob isn't a fail for people that travel outside their neighborhood where it might actually work. It is.

Aren't you the one overgeneralizing? Pretty much all Chupa Chupa said was for his location, T-Mobile is unreliable and AT&T and Verizon have better coverage.

T-Mobile service may work great for you but that's not going to be the case for everyone. As with housing, cell service is pretty much location, location, location. No single carrier is going to be bulletproof but some carriers have less holes in their coverage than others depending on location.
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Such as? Please be specific on what I'm assuming about my own experiences. What facts am I ignoring? Don't be coy.

So stop pretending TMob isn't a fail for people that travel outside their neighborhood where it might actually work. It is.
 
He's the one overgeneralizing that "Tmobile only works inside their neighborhood"
Whatever that means :D

Well no, that isn't overgeneralizing. You can go HERE and pinpoint neighborhoods with great TMob service and ones with non-existent service. Then do the same with ATT or VZW and you'll see there is wider LTE service with those carriers. You can literally have great TMob service in your neighborhood, walk a mile away and experience signal loss. It's the nature of their network and frequency they own. It can happen with any carrier but more likely with TMob based on it's actual coverage.
 
That's 100% overgeneralizing and obviously not true with my "neighborhood" :D
Tmobile is closing gaps in troubled areas and has the fastest network in the US currently beating AT&T and VZW. How you do you like my over-generalizations? :D

Well no, that isn't overgeneralizing. You can go HERE and pinpoint neighborhoods with great TMob service and ones with non-existent service. Then do the same with ATT or VZW and you'll see there is wider LTE service with those carriers. You can literally have great TMob service in your neighborhood, walk a mile away and experience signal loss. It's the nature of their network and frequency they own. It can happen with any carrier but more likely with TMob based on it's actual coverage.
 
T-Mobile may have the fastest network. Personally, I'd rather have a network whose coverage is not similar to Swiss cheese, even if their speeds are marginally slower. While I love the fact that T-Mobile is shaking up the industry, their current coverage prevents me from using them as my wireless carrier. Speed is meaningless when it can only be experienced in select places.
 
6GB of Data a month is nothing.
AT&T hopes you'll go over it and pay them overages.
That's how they make most of their billions, in overage fees.
It is not nothing, since most streaming video services do not count towards that 6GB, and there is rollover.

Through various promotions and enticements I am also paying $40 for 6GB through AT&T, with rollover data. I have never had to pay an overage. There were a time or two in the last year where I went over 6GB, but was okay due to rollover.


Mike
 
It is not nothing, since most streaming video services do not count towards that 6GB, and there is rollover.

Actually, the only streaming video service that currently does not count toward your data allotment on AT&T is DIRECTV/DIRECTV Now. Possibly U-verse TV, too, though I'm not sure about that; but it would make sense that it would also be exempt from data usage since it's also an AT&T product.

All the other video streaming services are potentially eligible for "Stream Saver" if AT&T can identify the content being streamed as video and if the Stream Saver feature is turned on on your line(s). Stream Saver only lowers the quality of the video being streamed to approximately 480p so it uses less of your data -- but it still counts toward your data allotment.
 
AT&T doesn't allow corporate discounts with unlimited from what I first heard.

That made my decision easy.
 
AT&T doesn't allow corporate discounts with unlimited from what I first heard.

That made my decision easy.

It depends on who is giving the discount. Some apply. Mine does, thankfully. So I now have AT&T Unlimited Plus with DTVNow and HBO for less than I was paying for AT&T Prepaid with Youtube TV (which honestly I still somewhat prefer for infinite DVR, but after the trial live locals miraculously no longer worked where I live) and HBO.
 
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AT&T doesn't allow corporate discounts with unlimited from what I first heard.

That made my decision easy.

AT&T does not allow corporate discounts on unlimited plans. They followed Verizon's lead on that one.

Edit: I just read the post above yours. I'd be interested to know how @phobos512 was able to get AT&T to honor his FAN. All I've ever heard about FANs and unlimited plans is that they are not compatible. The only exception, as I understand it, is the military discount.
 
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What plan does everyone have? Even with military discount I'm being charged 180 for 10 gb of data and 3 lines ;/

Dang and thought I was get hosed. I pay $142 after taxes/fees/work discount for 3 lines + 1 tablet with 10gb of data.
 
Switched to T-Mob a few weeks ago. Prepaid plan $50 for 10GB. Some areas the service was slow and some areas it's fast. Logged in to my account, switched off data saver for video streaming, and now the internet is fast even for web surfing.

I'm 3 weeks in and I have used up 6.5GB of data. And yet, for the past year, i was with ATT Next paying for a stupid expensive plan for 1GB. Yup, I survived on 1GB, but that's because I was mostly on WiFi.

One thing that i find odd in my experience, is none of the carriers will price match each other plans or offer any incentive to stay with them. This would create a much better competition.
 
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Dang and thought I was get hosed. I pay $142 after taxes/fees/work discount for 3 lines + 1 tablet with 10gb of data.

I pay $201 total for 4 lines + 2 tablets and 20GB data + rollover. It's an older family plan, so no throttling over the data limit, but overage charge of $15 per extra 1GB (we've never hit this). When we come right up to the data limit some months, the rollover buffer saves us. I also never activated Stream Saver. All phones paid off.

Looking at the current plan offerings, I think my old plan is still a better deal.
 
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I am on a grandfathered 2017 unlimited plan that AT&T only offered for a couple of weeks, before killing it off and replacing it with the two current unlimited offerings. This plan doesn't include tethering (I never use it, so it's a moot point) and allows FAN discounts. With my 25% FAN discount ($15), my total monthly payment for two lines is $142, including taxes.
 
I hear you, for some is sufficient, I ended up going over 34GB last month so the safety of unlimited with no chance of overages helped out.


It is not nothing, since most streaming video services do not count towards that 6GB, and there is rollover.

Through various promotions and enticements I am also paying $40 for 6GB through AT&T, with rollover data. I have never had to pay an overage. There were a time or two in the last year where I went over 6GB, but was okay due to rollover.


Mike
 
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AT&T already have their unlimited unlimited and then a crappy unlimited where your speeds are at 3 Mbps indefinitely for like 20 less. I swear T-Mobile is going to take over soon

T-Mo will never gain ground here. We hate having to go outside to make or receive calls. I will pay the extra for dependable communications, gladly!
 
I hear you, for some is sufficient, I ended up going over 34GB last month so the safety of unlimited with no chance of overages helped out.
It hasn't been sufficient for me since I was on AT&T ever since they stopped throttling at 5 GB... since then, every month I would get the push notification that I reached 22 GB. I had way better coverage with AT&T than T-Mobile in San Diego. I would go back to AT&T, but I will always remember the day how their CS treated me when I tried to add a line for our teenager... forcing me to give up my UDP with a big grin on their face. Loved AT&T's coverage, but very unhappy with their CS. T-Mobile coverage isn't great, but they don't suck. I pay for high-speed UDP, and average +-50 GB a month. Ever since they started T-Mobile One plans, I've been getting push notification that I reached 32 GB every month, but don't experience any slow down. I wish they would exclude me on the push notification since I don't have T-Mobile One plans... but I look at as notification that my bill is due in a few weeks. :p
 
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People don't bat an eye when Apple blatantly overprices the iPhone. But they are ready to grab torches and pitchforks is a service provider makes a buck.

I'm WAY more dissapointed about the reported price increase on the 8 and same price changed for a 3rd generation spec bump 7 than squabbling about carriers.
 
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Hey if you're happy with wireless carriers "making a buck" then you should donate some extra money each month on top of your monthly bill. Im sure they will appreciate something extra added to the billions of profits they rack up every year. You are Verizon's and AT&T's dream come true customer. :D
Sure let them keep racking up added fee's, overages and keep coming up with more ways to take advantage of you the consumer.
Create a duopoly that copies each others plans, fees and finding out more ways to offer you less for more along with more restrictions and less options.
I feel so bad for the poor carriers, they just want to make a buck. Not :D
Not to say that device manufacturers are any better and you shouldn't consider your options.
Find out what you can afford or what you're willing to spend on what and if you feel something is overpriced or the value it brings to you is not worth the price tag then off course dont spend the money on it.
If the rumors are true that the next iphone will start at $1000 I will not be purchasing it.


People don't bat an eye when Apple blatantly overprices the iPhone. But they are ready to grab torches and pitchforks is a service provider makes a buck.

I'm WAY more dissapointed about the reported price increase on the 8 and same price changed for a 3rd generation spec bump 7 than squabbling about carriers.
 
People don't bat an eye when Apple blatantly overprices the iPhone. But they are ready to grab torches and pitchforks is a service provider makes a buck.

I'm WAY more dissapointed about the reported price increase on the 8 and same price changed for a 3rd generation spec bump 7 than squabbling about carriers.
Funny how that works huh ;)
 
Hey if you're happy with wireless carriers "making a buck" then you should donate some extra money each month on top of your monthly bill. Im sure they will appreciate something extra added to the billions of profits they rack up every year. You are Verizon's and AT&T's dream come true customer. :D
Sure let them keep racking up added fee's, overages and keep coming up with more ways to take advantage of you the consumer.
Create a duopoly that copies each others plans, fees and finding out more ways to offer you less for more along with more restrictions and less options.
I feel so bad for the poor carriers, they just want to make a buck. Not :D
Not to say that device manufacturers are any better and you shouldn't consider your options.
Find out what you can afford or what you're willing to spend on what and if you feel something is overpriced or the value it brings to you is not worth the price tag then off course dont spend the money on it.
If the rumors are true that the next iphone will start at $1000 I will not be purchasing it.

Show me a wireless carrier who isn't "making a buck" and I'll show you a wireless carrier that will soon be going out of business. Wireless carriers don't exist to be a charity. They're a business and one of their goals, like Apple's, is to have the highest profit margin possible.

Don't think for one second that T-Mobile doesn't charge their customers extra fees just like the other carriers do. T-Mobile just builds the cost of the fees into the price of the service instead of listing the surcharges out fee-by-fee. Just because the price of T-Mobile service is a nice round number doesn't mean the customer isn't paying additional fees.
 
People don't bat an eye when Apple blatantly overprices the iPhone. But they are ready to grab torches and pitchforks is a service provider makes a buck.

I'm WAY more dissapointed about the reported price increase on the 8 and same price changed for a 3rd generation spec bump 7 than squabbling about carriers.
Maybe it's because carriers are licensed monopolies by the government so when they overcharge people get mad. They are just buying equipment from company X to transmit a signal on spectrum they got a license from the govt for.

Apple actaully created the iphoen and it's software. I don't mind if they make a nice profit for something that had such a big impact on the world
 
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