New Battery Health Features Remain Limited to iPhone 15 Models on First iOS 17.1 Beta

[Menneisyys2]

This feature is baked in Ventura, but there is no UI interface to enable it. You can force limit Mac charge to 80%. This works without any application like AlDente. Currently AlDente using hacks like that it disables sleep during charge, because when Mac sleeps, it will charge to 100% and limit is not activated if the app is not running.
This new SMC option charges battery to max. 80% even when Mac sleeps or it is powered off.

Intel based MACs have this feature from the beginning + you can configure threshold freely (on M1 you can set to 80% without option to configure threshold).

I hope the same feature will be available on older iPhones/iPads someday.

I only knew of this for Intel machines - are you ABSOLUTELY sure it's also on AS ones?

 

[davidh2k]

This, combined with batteries that have high degradation, is in my opinion just a strategy to make it harder to sell one or two year old models on the second hand market.
People are being totally brainwashed and I struggled a lot selling my 14 pro because of the 88% battery health.

I really start hating apple. Greenwashing on one end and every way to sell you battery, phones and chargers on the other.

88% Battery on a 14 Pro after a year? The Hell were you dooing with your iPhone?

 

[alchemistmuffin]

On social media, some users hoped these features would expand to older iPhone models in a future software update, but we are able to confirm that they remain limited to the iPhone 15 lineup as of the first iOS 17.1 beta released today

And unfortunately it will stay that way. This is in fact hardware limitation.

Reason: neural engine on A17 Pro can do better battery calculation.

 

[nmeed]

This feature is baked in Ventura, but there is no UI interface to enable it. You can force limit Mac charge to 80%. This works without any application like AlDente. Currently AlDente using hacks like that it disables sleep during charge, because when Mac sleeps, it will charge to 100% and limit is not activated if the app is not running.
This new SMC option charges battery to max. 80% even when Mac sleeps or it is powered off.

Intel based MACs have this feature from the beginning + you can configure threshold freely (on M1 you can set to 80% without option to configure threshold).

I hope the same feature will be available on older iPhones/iPads someday.

How to enable it?

 

[Obioban]

And unfortunately it will stay that way. This is in fact hardware limitation.

Reason: neural engine on A17 Pro can do better battery calculation.

I can't even tell if this post is serious or sarcastic, but the "optimize charging" feature already holds it at 80% (on older phones) for a couple hours overnight, to minimize time at (the battery stressing) 100% SOC. Just don't set an end time on that

 

[alchemistmuffin]

I can't even tell if this post is serious or sarcastic, but the "optimize charging" feature already holds it at 80% for a couple hours overnight, to minimize time at (the battery stressing) 100% SOC. Just don't set an end time on that

Not being sarcastic at all. It’s is unfortunately hardware limitation due to the neural engine.

 

[bigboy29]

Do you mean the optimized charging limit? I don’t see an option to do the 80% limit on my AWU1

On my AW7, Settings > Battery > Battery Health > Optimized Battery Charging

Since Watch OS 10, my watch automatically stops charging at 80% every day.

 

[deckard666]

That's the power of the A17, folks. Or the A16. But not if you have an iPhone 14 Pro. Only the A16 in the iPhone 15 is powerful enough for this feature.

Yeah it nots like a line you have to draw a line somewhere.....

 

[Menneisyys2]

Not being sarcastic at all. It’s is unfortunately hardware limitation due to the neural engine.

A simple 80% switch? Oh come on... (unless you're really pulling our legs...)

 

[mxrider88]

88% Battery on a 14 Pro after a year? The Hell were you dooing with your iPhone?

That’s the point, nothing. Used as every other iPhone I’ve had.
My previous phones after 12 months never went below 93/94%.

I don’t use a case, the most intense thing I might be running on it is a dual sim.

It’s ridiculous.

 

[ApplesAreSweet&Sour]

And unfortunately it will stay that way. This is in fact hardware limitation.

Reason: neural engine on A17 Pro can do better battery calculation.

Do we really have to troll each other on this? I genuinely need to know what's up with these new Battery Health features.

It can't be battery capacity because plenty of older iPhones and iPhones 15 Plus and 14 Plus have more mAhs than the standard 15 Pro.

It can't be the SoC either, because a device like iPad Pro M2 certainly must equal or out-perform iPhones 15 Pro on most benchmarks?

And then I don't even know why I'm letting myself get trolled on this because apps like Coconut Battery and iMazing get the same cycle count readings as iPhones 15 Pro (yes, that's been tested. Same accuracy).

And I know for a fact that all newer iPhones have the ability to limit charge input entirely or partially, which is why the "Charge Limit" Battery Health feature was just something they could enable even on older iPhones that didn't launch with it.

 

[applefanboysince93]

That’s the point, nothing. Used as every other iPhone I’ve had.
My previous phones after 12 months never went below 93/94%.

I don’t use a case, the most intense thing I might be running on it is a dual sim.

It’s ridiculous.

Seems like everyone had that experience… the iPhone 13 Pro after two years of use that got handed down had a similar percentage left to my 14 pro after one

 

[mxrider88]

Seems like everyone had that experience… the iPhone 13 Pro after two years of use that got handed down had a similar percentage left to my 14 pro after one

Probably part of the planned obsolescence. But don’t include a charger to save a turtle.. so you can run a 10 minute demential advertisement talking rubbish to “Mother Nature” during the keynote.

It’s infuriating isn’t it

 

[FeliApple]

Pathetic. This should’ve been available for every iPhone since iOS 11.3, which is when they added battery health initially. They add it six major versions later... and only for the latest iPhone? What, the A16 Bionic is too weak to read it? How about iPads? The M1 is too weak, too?