New beta iphone tethering, get ready ipad

wayneholbrook

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Now that the 4.0 os will have tethering, I wondering should I return my 3G Ipad and get a cheaper wifi since I would assume that I can tether with my iphone?
 

TheMacBookPro

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Isn't the tethering only over USB and Bluetooth (and I don't think the iPad supports the BT profile needed for BT tethering)? In which case it wouldn't work so...

Why don't you just jailbreak the iphone and install mywi?
 

mgamber

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Yep, I tether now with myWi on the iPhone and a 3G iPad, the point being that I essentially have 10 GB of data per month now. Between Slingplayer and MLB at Bat, I'll probably use it all, too.

If you're waiting for 4.0 because it may be built into the phone, there's no guarantee, nor does that mean AT&T will bless it. Screw it, jailbreak your phone, cough up the $10 for myWi and have at it!
 

M87

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MiWi is buggy as hell and kills battery life. Native tethering is a million times better.
 

TraceyS/FL

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Just be sure to look at what AT&T charges for tethering on other phones.

It will NOT be free more than likely, iPhone users won't get special treatment over any other smartphone users.

Now, they MIGHT do something to compete with the Verizon Pre Hotspot deal of free..... maybe.... but i wouldn't count on it.
 

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digitalfx

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Tethering is nice, especially when you really need it...but its not even close to having a native 3G device.

If you use 3G on your iPad, you will regret losing it regardless of tethering. Tethering is not convenient, it requires two devices and consumes considerably more battery life.
 

barkomatic

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The money you "save" by returning your 3G will be mostly lost by the restocking fee Apple will charge you--unless you haven't opened it.

If by some miracle AT&T offers free tethering from the iPhone (ha ha ha) then you'd still be able to use that option with a 3G iPad.
 

barkomatic

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Native tethering doesn't have WiFi tethering, so it's still useless for the iPad. MyWi is the only way to do it.
The tethering option was discovered in a beta version of iPhone OS 4.0 -- which means it will be introduced with the release of the next hardware revision to the iPhone. Perhaps the new iPhone will have hotspotting capability?

MyWi comes with a nasty contract. If you already use something like that for other uses that's great, but $60 a month just to give an iPad internet access is too expensive for me. I'd just go with the no contract cheaper AT&T plans on the 3G.
 

Chupa Chupa

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Now that the 4.0 os will have tethering, I wondering should I return my 3G Ipad and get a cheaper wifi since I would assume that I can tether with my iphone?
1) You'd have to have your iPhone around, and it would have to have a decent amount of battery life to be useful.
2) Assuming #1 you'd end up with have less juice for iPhone tasks for the rest of the day.
3) The tethering option does not look like you can activate and cancel within the iPhone the same way you can activate and cancel 3G service w/ the iPad.
4) Cost is still unknown but w/ iPad 3G you have data on two devices, w/ tethering you can only use one device at a time.
5) Also unknown whether ATT will throttle down the speed so that it doesn't stream well.
 

ngenerator

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MyWi comes with a nasty contract. If you already use something like that for other uses that's great, but $60 a month just to give an iPad internet access is too expensive for me. I'd just go with the no contract cheaper AT&T plans on the 3G.
MyWi is a jailbroken app that enables your phone to act as a wifi hotspot

MiFi is available from Verizon
 

gwynne

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I think part of the confusion in this thread comes from people not understanding what 'tethering' actually means.
 

8CoreWhore

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If you limit you iPad 3G connectivity on the back of your phone, your iPad is then limited by the phones battery... which drains fast during tethering.
 

billyzenme

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If you limit you iPad 3G connectivity on the back of your phone, your iPad is then limited by the phones battery... which drains fast during tethering.
same formula applies to Overdrives and MiFi too

that's why smart people buy the iPad 3G, and not the WiFi only model.

3G owners get to the full battery life 10 hours duration of freedom, portability and internet connectivity.
 

omgitscro

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There is a lot of bad information in this thread. Let's sum up the correct info:

1. The official OS4 implementation of tethering for the iPhone WILL NOT work with the iPad. iPhone OS (which all iPhones, iPod touches, and iPads use) doesn't support USB or Bluetooth connectivity required for this to work. This sort of tethering will only work with Mac OS X desktops/laptops and Windows Linux PCs. Most likely, the service will cost between $30-$60 a month.

2. A viable tethering solution would be MyWi (not MiWi or MyWy) for the iPhone. To install this $10 (one-time fee) application, your host device (iPhone) must be jailbroken, while the leech devices (iPad, in this case) do not need to be jailbroken. No extra charge, minus possible fees for going over 5GB a month.

3. Another tethering solution is to purchase a MiFi, along with a 2-year contract and plan. At around $60 a month, these plans are NOT unlimited (5GB per month, same as AT&T's iPhone data plan), and costly.


Most users on this board will recommend MyWi, if you decide to return your iPad 3G. Remember that, while your iPad's 3G plan is truly unlimited, ALL iPhone data plans and MiFi data plans are NOT unlimited, and are all capped at 5GB.

Personally, I recommend that you stick with your iPad 3G. Best of luck.
 

Chip NoVaMac

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Just be sure to look at what AT&T charges for tethering on other phones.

It will NOT be free more than likely, iPhone users won't get special treatment over any other smartphone users.

Now, they MIGHT do something to compete with the Verizon Pre Hotspot deal of free..... maybe.... but i wouldn't count on it.
I don't expect it for free; but if they were to offer unlimited tethering for lets say $15 for the iPhone and the iPad, then I might just stay with the iPhone when the new one comes out.

There is a lot of bad information in this thread. Let's sum up the correct info:

1. The official OS4 implementation of tethering for the iPhone WILL NOT work with the iPad. iPhone OS (which all iPhones, iPod touches, and iPads use) doesn't support USB or Bluetooth connectivity required for this to work. This sort of tethering will only work with Mac OS X desktops/laptops and Windows Linux PCs. Most likely, the service will cost between $30-$60 a month.

2. A viable tethering solution would be MyWi (not MiWi or MyWy) for the iPhone. To install this $10 (one-time fee) application, your host device (iPhone) must be jailbroken, while the leech devices (iPad, in this case) do not need to be jailbroken. No extra charge, minus possible fees for going over 5GB a month.

3. Another tethering solution is to purchase a MiFi, along with a 2-year contract and plan. At around $60 a month, these plans are NOT unlimited (5GB per month, same as AT&T's iPhone data plan), and costly.


Most users on this board will recommend MyWi, if you decide to return your iPad 3G. Remember that, while your iPad's 3G plan is truly unlimited, ALL iPhone data plans and MiFi data plans are NOT unlimited, and are all capped at 5GB.

Personally, I recommend that you stick with your iPad 3G. Best of luck.
Thanks for the heads up and education there.
 

jonomo

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MyWi Sux!!!!

yesterday I tried my hand at Jailbreaking solely for the purpose of using MyWi to tether my Ipad Wifi only model... and I have to say the whole experience was a bit unnerving..

The Jailbreaking process was pretty easy.. but there's really no explanation of what's going on... I did not know what Cydia was... it asked for a bunch of updates without much explanation... for all I knew it could have been stealing some personal data or installing malware... but I still soldiered on b/c I really wanted to try MyWi...

After figuring things out I tried to get MyWi... there were two versions.. one with Rock and one without... not much explanation on what the difference is... but once again. trial and error... I soldiered on...

Lots of restarts, installing, blah blah without much more explanation..

Finally got it installed and updated to lastest version.... and I turned on MyWi... immediately got a Wifi signal and Ipad connected.. hoorah!!! But here's the bad part...

1. Iphone got really hot.. never had it get so hot before...
2. MyWi would never really shut down properly.. even when you turned off the Wifi sharing, it would still say it was broadcasting... draining battery and remaining hot....
3. For some reason you could connect your iphone to the same Wifi signal it was broadcasting...
4. Other Wifi signals would no longer work.. it would not connect to my home wifi anymore.. it could not even locate it.... you could only see the wifi signal that the phone was broadcasting..
5. Battery would drain like crazy.. now I would not mind if it was broadcasting wifi and I was tethering it to my Ipad.. but it would just drain when I tried to shut down MyWi....

I can see why these apps would never cut it in the app store... they are definetly third rate... I would love to somehow tether my Ipad to Iphone but I'm not gonna go through these hoops again unless they finally polish their program...

Just a quick note I live in Korea where the Ipad has not launched yet.. I purchased it on a quick trip to Sonoma, CA a few weeks ago and I wasn't sure if the 3G could be made to work here (and I could not find a store with a 3G model in stock as I arrived in CA the day it launched).... I love my Ipad but the whole Wifi issue is haunting me badly.. I pretty much have to do a hard reset of the Ipad every time it tries to connect to a new Wifi location.. totally suxors!!!!
 

DeathChill

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Definitely won't work with the iPad. I live in Canada, where tethering has been around for awhile, and you cannot get the iPad and iPhone to connect via Bluetooth.
 

melman101

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yesterday I tried my hand at Jailbreaking solely for the purpose of using MyWi to tether my Ipad Wifi only model... and I have to say the whole experience was a bit unnerving..

The Jailbreaking process was pretty easy.. but there's really no explanation of what's going on... I did not know what Cydia was... it asked for a bunch of updates without much explanation... for all I knew it could have been stealing some personal data or installing malware... but I still soldiered on b/c I really wanted to try MyWi...

After figuring things out I tried to get MyWi... there were two versions.. one with Rock and one without... not much explanation on what the difference is... but once again. trial and error... I soldiered on...

Lots of restarts, installing, blah blah without much more explanation..

Finally got it installed and updated to lastest version.... and I turned on MyWi... immediately got a Wifi signal and Ipad connected.. hoorah!!! But here's the bad part...

1. Iphone got really hot.. never had it get so hot before...
2. MyWi would never really shut down properly.. even when you turned off the Wifi sharing, it would still say it was broadcasting... draining battery and remaining hot....
3. For some reason you could connect your iphone to the same Wifi signal it was broadcasting...
4. Other Wifi signals would no longer work.. it would not connect to my home wifi anymore.. it could not even locate it.... you could only see the wifi signal that the phone was broadcasting..
5. Battery would drain like crazy.. now I would not mind if it was broadcasting wifi and I was tethering it to my Ipad.. but it would just drain when I tried to shut down MyWi....

I can see why these apps would never cut it in the app store... they are definetly third rate... I would love to somehow tether my Ipad to Iphone but I'm not gonna go through these hoops again unless they finally polish their program...

Just a quick note I live in Korea where the Ipad has not launched yet.. I purchased it on a quick trip to Sonoma, CA a few weeks ago and I wasn't sure if the 3G could be made to work here (and I could not find a store with a 3G model in stock as I arrived in CA the day it launched).... I love my Ipad but the whole Wifi issue is haunting me badly.. I pretty much have to do a hard reset of the Ipad every time it tries to connect to a new Wifi location.. totally suxors!!!!
I don't have any of those problems. My phone might get a little hot, but other than that it shuts down fine, etc. And my ipad wifi still works. Oh and the battery darins with MyWi.

+1 for MyWi No Rock
 

jonomo

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I don't have any of those problems. My phone might get a little hot, but other than that it shuts down fine, etc. And my ipad wifi still works. Oh and the battery darins with MyWi.

+1 for MyWi No Rock
What's the diff between with Rock and Without? I thought Rock was just some kind of payment gateway...
 

qtx43

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There is a lot of bad information in this thread. Let's sum up the correct info:

1. The official OS4 implementation of tethering for the iPhone WILL NOT work with the iPad. iPhone OS (which all iPhones, iPod touches, and iPads use) doesn't support USB or Bluetooth connectivity required for this to work. This sort of tethering will only work with Mac OS X desktops/laptops and Windows Linux PCs. Most likely, the service will cost between $30-$60 a month.
The official iPhone OS4 isn't out yet, so nobody knows for sure what will and will not work. Granted the iPad won't get the OS update until later. Agree that he should just stick with what he's got until real products are released, and he can get actual information, including pricing.