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the hp is "LP3065". its list is $1399, and there's currently a $100 rebate thru the end of january. not bad, and not a Dell either.

HP does not make LCds
Apple does not make LCds
Dell Does not make LCds


theres really only like 4-5 LCD manufactures in the world, everyone else buys from them

Dell gets most of their stuff from LG

the major makers of LCDS are LG, Samsung/Sony and Sharp, all the other ones are no name brand China or Taiwan companies.

cut from wiki

"LG-Philips currently produces the Apple Cinema LCD Panel as well as the Dell Ultrasharp 2005FPW and 30 inch LCD panel."

if you buy an apple lcd, you basically get a dell lcd in the box lol
 
I can see new displays. I can see them getting bigger, maybe a 20"->22" and 23"->27". I dont think they will have a built in isight. Although I can imagine a USB iSight with a built in IR receiver as an option.
 
2x the price?

apple 23" monitor (they jacked you 1" lmao) = $1050 (cad)
1920x1080
400:1 contrast (THIS blows)
16ms response
bright 270 cd/m2

Samsung SyncMaster 305T 30" = ~$1000-$1100 depending on where you buy it, same price range

2560 x 1600
1000:1 contrast ratio
6ms Response
Brightness(cd/2)(typ.): 400 cd/m2

Samsung SyncMaster 245B $399
- 24-inch wide TFT-LCD
- 1920 x 1200 maximum resolution
- 3000:1 Dynamic contrast ratio
Brightness(cd/2)(typ.): 400 cd/m2 (assuming it has the same backlight as the other one)
- Ultra-fast 5ms response time

yeah your right. 2x-2.6x

I wanted to like them... I just couldn't see something that large sitting on my desktop with no FW ports. i would probably grab a Dell or HP before the Samsung.
 
I wanted to like them... I just couldn't see something that large sitting on my desktop with no FW ports. i would probably grab a Dell or HP before the Samsung.

its just an example, if you go to newegg you will see TONS of LCD with almost identical specs and diffrent ports on them.

why do you need FW ports on your LCD? cant you just run a cable from your tower? your tower isnt 50ft away is it?
 
There seem to be some misconceptions here. Most PVA/MVA panels aree indeed 8-bit, but those panels exhibit more color shifting and produce less accurate colors. Apple does use IPS panels, which have much less color shift and produces accurate colors. So while both 8-bit, IPS panels still trounce most PVA/MVA panels.

Now, currently the Dell 3007WFP uses the same panel as the 30" Apple. However, a display is more than its panel. The electronics that go into a display are just as important and that is what sets a low end display and a high end display apart.

Dell has a new 30", the 3008WFP has a newer panel. While it is $2000 people are pulling it for $1640 with a call to Dell. It also has a scaler and ton of inputs. The scaler lets it take lower res inputs. The HP LP3065 also has a newer panel.

Now, in Dell has taken a different path with their smaller displays. The 20" has gone TN. Which is terrible. The 24" is still up in the air, I know there are hints of a 2408WFP soon. I imagine it will stay PVA, we only hope at least. IPS 24" panels are out there as well, and resident in Apples 24" iMac.

Now, in regards to the ACDs. I think if Apple was just dropping the price, it would have been done at Macworld. That suggests there will not be a price drop at Macworld, unless it is accompanied by an update.

If Apple puts iSights and remote with the ACDs, I would consider that a "consumer" update. And an update which garners a mention at the so called "consumer" show known as Macworld. I of course don't know if it will happen, but it is possible.

I would dare say that if this doesn't happen, there won't be new ACDs unless they have been redesigned and Apple feels they should mention them.

If either of these are the case, I expect panel upgrades. The 23" will go the way of the dodo, and be replaced by a 24".
 
its just an example, if you go to newegg you will see TONS of LCD with almost identical specs and diffrent ports on them.

why do you need FW ports on your LCD? cant you just run a cable from your tower? your tower isnt 50ft away is it?

No it's not 50 feet away, but it is underneath my desk. There is one on the front that is being used and a FW800 port as well, but it's easier to plug things in from behind the monitor.

I have been eyeing the Dell 27" monitor for $1200. It's the only one that actually looks good and may not creak on me when I take it out of the box. If Apple doesn't upgrade their Cinema's then I will have to jump ship to the Dells. I now have what many call.... a budget... and can't blow money on Apple products like I used to only because they were Apple made and one of the only products that support the FW standard.

In a week, I may just have to reach behind my tower to plug in that FW device. :)
 
Hey skunk, I think the 2707WFP can be had for $995 or so these days.

Also, the 3007WFP is about $1200 now. Not as pretty looking. But still 30" goodness, unless you need the alternative connections of the 27".
 
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