New eMac Tomorrow?

[thatwendigo]

umm... there can't be a "G5" with a 744x part number.

For someone that waltzes into a thread and starts telling other people that they don't know what they're talking about, that's a rather ironic thing for you to say. The "G4" is a marketing term that has been used for the 74xx series of processors, and the "G5" is a marketing term for the 970 family of processors.

Nothing but marketing is involved, and there is no magical barrier keeping Apple from calling a 7448 1.8ghz part the G23 if they want to.

 

[NNO-Stephen]

For someone that waltzes into a thread and starts telling other people that they don't know what they're talking about, that's a rather ironic thing for you to say. The "G4" is a marketing term that has been used for the 74xx series of processors, and the "G5" is a marketing term for the 970 family of processors.

Nothing but marketing is involved, and there is no magical barrier keeping Apple from calling a 7448 1.8ghz part the G23 if they want to.

true, except you forgot one major factor.

common sense.

and there's nothing wrong with lurking.

 

[johnnyjibbs]

umm... there can't be a "G5" with a 744x part number.

Not true. The G5 can be whatever Apple wants it to be. (It's just a brand name. E.g. if those IBM G3s with Alti-vec ever came out and were better than a G4, Apple would NOT call them PowerBook G3s).

 

[NNO-Stephen]

Not true. The G5 can be whatever Apple wants it to be. (It's just a brand name. E.g. if those IBM G3s with Alti-vec ever came out and were better than a G4, Apple would NOT call them PowerBook G3s).

I understand this. but those were abandoned a while ago AFAIK.

and yes, apple CAN name their **** whatever they want. but guided by common sense, they won't make the 74xx family of processors a G5. why? because freescale won't change them to the point where Apple would consider a change and they still keep the 74xx series going. This is evident in the naming scheme for the dual core G4s from Freescale, while they kept the 74xx scheme alive for the 7448.

 

[johnnyjibbs]

I understand this. but those were abandoned a while ago AFAIK.

and yes, apple CAN name their **** whatever they want. but guided by common sense, they won't make the 74xx family of processors a G5. why? because freescale won't change them to the point where Apple would consider a change and they still keep the 74xx series going. This is evident in the naming scheme for the dual core G4s from Freescale, while they kept the 74xx scheme alive for the 7448.

I'd imagine they may decide to call the Freescale dual core G4 a "G4+" at the very least. But I wouldn't expect this to be the chip that Apple puts in the eMac at any stage. That will go to the 970, whether at the next rev or the rev afterwards.

 

[NNO-Stephen]

I'd imagine they may decide to call the Freescale dual core G4 a "G4+" at the very least. But I wouldn't expect this to be the chip that Apple puts in the eMac at any stage. That will go to the 970, whether at the next rev or the rev afterwards.

I agree.

although the current G4 is the G4e, but nobody really calls it that.

 

[Yvan256]

I agree.

although the current G4 is the G4e, but nobody really calls it that.

Why is the current G4 a "G4e"? What's different from a "regular G4"?

As for the new eMac using that "G4+" (from Freescale) I really doubt it. Apple would be wiser to "recycle" the low-speed G5's into the eMac (it moves all desktops to a G5, and lower the G5 costs overall since they can now use G5's that won't run at 1.6GHz+ for the iMac/PowerMac. Cooling isn't an issue either with the eMac, there's a lot of empty space in such a design).

 

[wrldwzrd89]

Why is the current G4 a "G4e"? What's different from a "regular G4"?

As for the new eMac using that "G4+" (from Freescale) I really doubt it. Apple would be wiser to "recycle" the low-speed G5's into the eMac (it moves all desktops to a G5, and lower the G5 costs overall since they can now use G5's that won't run at 1.6GHz+ for the iMac/PowerMac. Cooling isn't an issue either with the eMac, there's a lot of empty space in such a design).

Look here for details on the G4e and a comparison with the Pentium 4.

 

[mactechuk]

Low Cost Mac to compete and lack of Ed. SW

Apple really need to do something when Dell are offering in the UK a PC with DVD-RW and a 15" flat screen for £499 inc Tax and delivery.

Why would someone on a lower income buy a Mac when they can get a PC at this sort of price?

Another issue (in the UK at least) is educational software. There is no point in having an "e"Mac when there is no software available that supports the national curriculum.

MacTech

 

[Curnsie]

Waste of time...

When are Apple going to smell the coffee and take note of the 'headless mac' outcry.

I'm a recent switcher who frankly didn't know what Mac to buy - I was sure I wasn't going to spend 2 grand on a G5 Pmac! I bought an eMac which is great, but the more I have learned about Macs, I've realised that I would like a few very simple options:

1. I want to upgrade the video card when I want to what I want.
2. I would like to upgrade my Hard Drive with out needing a degree in electro physics.
3. I would like to change my optical drive (see option 2)
4. I don't want to buy another screen, LCD or CRT.

There, its that simple... if such a machine (I'd accept a G4 processor) where built by Apple (sold for around £500 basic spec, with upgrade potential), and it overtook the sales of the G5 iMac and G5 PowerMac, I think all this would prove is that there is something wrong with Apple's current product placing. This machine would certainly attract a lot of windoze users... don't worry Apple, you can still create a masterpeice of industrial design.

Thats my 2 cents worth.


Curnsie.