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adzoox said:
I suppose you are pretending to be a reseller. If Apple sells you stock, then releases new models they offer incentives to get rid of the "older model" - + all you have to do is offer AppleCare with the units at cut rate prices. In the case of the last iMac revision - the price of the iMac G4 20" actually went up in resale value.

I'm not "pretending" to be anything - we buy lots of computers and use them, and Apple totally sucks as a supplier. It really is that simple.
 
Hope people with bifocal lenses won't be forgotten again.

I have an iBook and an iMac G4.
Both allow me to work with the screen right above the keyboard.

If the screen is any higher, as is the case with the new iMacG5 and the current eMac, then I will have to constantly raise my head. The screen on those machines is just too high.

Apple, please.

p.s. The standalone aluminum screens are OK in this respect

p.s. Another much needed feature is to quiet down the eMac! People want their eMacs in the living room. Currently, the eMac is way too noisy to become part of the furniture. Excellent advertising for Apple this would be though.
 
VanFruniken said:
If the screen is any higher, as is the case with the new iMacG5 and the current eMac, then I will have to constantly raise my head. The screen on those machines is just too high.

Yep, this is the problem my dad had too, so we got a new office desk that has a deepening for the display. A little pic of the table
I heard that the display top should be about 6 cm (approx. 2 inches) lower than your eye level, or lower, when sitting straight.

The iMac would fit in the deepening, but everyone with focal lenses can't go buying new office desks. So the display adjustability was clearly a minus on the iMac G5. I think that they could've made it possible to slide it up and down but they didn't do it for some reason (cost for one). Good thing is, if you can spend some $$$ on it, there is the VESA adapter and there are lots of VESA compliant adjustable stands.
 
I saw it posted earlier in the thread, but no one seems to have taken any note of it. The "new" eMac is using a Radeon 9200 video card. As I recall, the "old" one used a Radeon 7500. Also, didn't they bump up the RAM speed? Before the eMac used PC133, now DDR 333. Seems new (though, with the same processor) to me.
 
osprey76 said:
I saw it posted earlier in the thread, but no one seems to have taken any note of it. The "new" eMac is using a Radeon 9200 video card. As I recall, the "old" one used a Radeon 7500. Also, didn't they bump up the RAM speed? Before the eMac used PC133, now DDR 333. Seems new (though, with the same processor) to me.

Those improvements were noticed back in April when the current model was introduced.

This rumor is about an improvement to the April 2004 model, which hasn't yet been released.
 
Rod Rod said:
Those improvements were noticed back in April when the current model was introduced.

This rumor is about an improvement to the April 2004 model, which hasn't yet been released.

Oh, I guess I'm behind on eMacs then! I thought the 7500 was the video card until I read the current specs recently.
 
If they let the eMac display run 1280x960 at 85Hz, I'd buy one. 75Hz gives me horrible headaches. Even my 4 year old 17" CRT can run 1280x1024 (and 960) " 85Hz.

PS: I just bought a Hansol 930D monitor for £110, inc vat and delivery.
 
The eMac is such a work hoarse machine for apple. I think they could sell so many more if they either lowered their price or upgraded their graphics cards. Of course a 1.5GHz G4 + fx 5200 or rad 9600 would be a sweet spot. And of course a G5 would be even sweeter.
 
jared_kipe said:
The eMac is such a work hoarse machine for apple. I think they could sell so many more if they either lowered their price or upgraded their graphics cards. Of course a 1.5GHz G4 + fx 5200 or rad 9600 would be a sweet spot. And of course a G5 would be even sweeter.
There's no way that an eMac will contain a Radeon 9600 when the iMac G5 has a GeForce 5200 Ultra...
 
Here my prediction, new eMacs November 25th, and new iBooks along with PowerBooks when Tiger comes out (PBs with dual core G4, iBooks with 1.5GHz G4) which I guess will happen February 16th.
 
aswitcher said:
I will be really disappointed if any new Apple Mac comes out without as CoreImage compatible video card...

It might depend on when Tiger is actually released. We might see a revison in the next month and perhaps one more revison in the first half of next year which will come with Tiger pre-installed and with hardware to fully exploit what Tiger has to offer. Same with the iBooks too.
 
MacSA said:
It might depend on when Tiger is actually released. We might see a revison in the next month and perhaps one more revison in the first half of next year which will come with Tiger pre-installed and with hardware to fully exploit what Tiger has to offer. Same with the iBooks too.

Sure Apple might rationalise this way but that would be the sucky thing to do to customers now they have made such a song and dance about Tiger and CoreImage. How would you feel buying a new eMac/iBook this week to know that in within 8 months it will be superceded by a model with the real graphics card...
 
The new upcoming Updated Apple Line will look like so:

eMac = will have the last iMac G4 guts.

iBook = will have the recent PowerBook guts.

PowerBook = well this is a mystery, unless FreeScale and Apple has G4 2.0 GHz or higher chips in house.


That way all models will be Core Image compatible. Now what to do about the 64-bit issue, another revision next year. :)

This is my take on the update hardware.
 
A G5 eMac soon?

...maybe next year?

New versions of Apple's educational eMac are reportedly in the pipeline, though their arrival remains a mystery.

According to sources, Apple has been developing a redesigned eMac based around a G5 processor and more robust graphics processor, but may still choose to introduce one more incarnation of the eMac G4 due to current cost efficiency and supply concerns associated with the G5.

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=687
 
wrldwzrd89 said:
That's good news - but what if it turns out to be a G5-based eMac and the PowerBook is still stuck on a G4? Won't all hell break loose all over the Mac user community?

Those are due for updates too, it's strange that there have been so few hardware rumours of late - maybe something big is coming :eek:
 
MacSA said:
...maybe next year?

New versions of Apple's educational eMac are reportedly in the pipeline, though their arrival remains a mystery.

According to sources, Apple has been developing a redesigned eMac based around a G5 processor and more robust graphics processor, but may still choose to introduce one more incarnation of the eMac G4 due to current cost efficiency and supply concerns associated with the G5.

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=687
This is most interesting news. Won't every PowerBook owner complain if eMacs get G5 processors and they don't? That makes me wonder if a PowerBook update is also imminent...
 
MacSA said:
...maybe next year?

New versions of Apple's educational eMac are reportedly in the pipeline, though their arrival remains a mystery.

According to sources, Apple has been developing a redesigned eMac based around a G5 processor and more robust graphics processor, but may still choose to introduce one more incarnation of the eMac G4 due to current cost efficiency and supply concerns associated with the G5.

http://appleinsider.com/article.php?id=687
I guess robust graphics gpu means a fx5200? :D A Fx5200 and 1.5 G4 would be a nice entry model. they do that and ill buy one for the boy. Emac is still a best buy in my book.
 
aswitcher said:
Wow they are talking possible G5...if this happens this year I will be surprised.

A 64 vram, coreimage comptable video card, will hopefully appear.

Wonder if they can make the screen better...

Yeah exciting stuff...if as the article states they've been working on it for 10 months, must be some major changes.
 
Dont Hurt Me said:
I guess robust graphics cpu means a fx5200? :D A Fx5200 and 1.5 G4 would be a nice entry model. they do that and ill buy one for the boy. Emac is still a best buy in my book.
Apple LOVES that GPU, don't they? Besides, it's supported by Core Image, and my iMac G4 has one - so I'm happy for right now. The only bummer about the eMac is the low pre-installed RAM, but that can easily be fixed.
 
MacSA said:
Yeah exciting stuff...if as the article states they've been working on it for 10 months, must be some major changes.

Yeah, you gotta wonder what they have been up to. Obviously for the edu market they have to keep it cheap and simple...so no ipod like control wheels built into front below the monitor or anything tricky like that.

I really hope they can improve the screen, higher refresh...

And, whoa, if they offer a digital TV card (and software), this machine will really stand out...but canablise iMac sales...
 
Dont Hurt Me said:
Tell you the truth i would be thrilled to see a fx5200 64 show up in the next emac. As long as it can play world of warcraft the boy will be in heaven.

Does anyone know if they can improve the screen from its present form. I have read some compaints and personally perceive a flicker and eye strain the the mac store. If they could improve the CRT and rev up the guts it could be a nice second machine...
 
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