RichardCarletta said:
I don't think even that would be enough - just look at the magic they had to work to fit the G5s into the xServe.
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I don't think even that would be enough - just look at the magic they had to work to fit the G5s into the xServe.
I used to have a Buslink firewire hard drive that got warm when it was used . When the front side panel of the case came off , it ran much cooler.
~SilvorX~ said:
~Shard~ said:Probably not for what people tend to do on an eMac though - I don't know any eMac users who do anything more than use Mail, Safari and possibly Office. The extra RAM would probably make things a bit snappier in iPhoto, iTunes, etc., but I doubt anyone is going to be installing FCP on their eMac.
I've used an eMac with 256 MB and it was sluggish. Macs should come with 512MB standard. If not, there is the danger that inexperienced new users will have a less-than-optimal experience and the Mac will develop bad worth of mouth.
jiv3turkey748 said:
Actually, this new eMac has the same number of Firewire and USB ports as the eMac I bought in August. I think many people have forgotten about the Spring '04 update.
I'd much rather see the 12" PowerBook join the 15" and 17" PowerBooks with GigE, VRAM, and the backlit keyboard (maybe) than wait for another iBook or eMac update.
This eMac update was just changing a resistor (lbondar did it, too!) and adding some VRAM. The RAM isn't anything major with Tiger now, that is something we all think (confirmed now I guess) is coming along as standard-- 512MB of RAM.
This was a needed update, but wasn't very major. Just moves the eMac and Mini a bit away from each other, not a huge amount to make them a threat to anything else.
This eMac update was just changing a resistor (lbondar did it, too!
) and adding some VRAM. The RAM isn't anything major with Tiger now, that is something we all think (confirmed now I guess) is coming along as standard-- 512MB of RAM.This was a needed update, but wasn't very major. Just moves the eMac and Mini a bit away from each other, not a huge amount to make them a threat to anything else.
Pro Line... tsktsk
I completely agree... the 12" pb is terrible.. (even tho i still want one). EVERY SINGLE MAC website suggests saving a couple hundred and buying an Ibook. it is quite true.. but then again i have to say .. again.. that the pro line is dying. Th reason why people complain about macs to PC's is generally because the best doesnt compare.. of course the mid-level stuff such as the ibook and imac are absolutely amazing (and quite good value).
Look at the "switcher stories", the people there are looking for consumer like products. If apple wants people to switch from PC to Macs they need a reputation.. they need people not to laugh at apple users. Because when it comes down to it, good looks get you places with consumers but that can only scratch the pro industry (aside from the small amounts of artistes).
Pro line.. tsk tsk
Cheers,
Ini
Mechcozmo said:
I completely agree... the 12" pb is terrible.. (even tho i still want one). EVERY SINGLE MAC website suggests saving a couple hundred and buying an Ibook. it is quite true.. but then again i have to say .. again.. that the pro line is dying. Th reason why people complain about macs to PC's is generally because the best doesnt compare.. of course the mid-level stuff such as the ibook and imac are absolutely amazing (and quite good value).
Look at the "switcher stories", the people there are looking for consumer like products. If apple wants people to switch from PC to Macs they need a reputation.. they need people not to laugh at apple users. Because when it comes down to it, good looks get you places with consumers but that can only scratch the pro industry (aside from the small amounts of artistes).
Pro line.. tsk tsk
Cheers,
Ini
m4r71n1 said:
The eMac works wonders as a pro machine! It has a great, clear, monitor, nice keyboard, optical mouse, USB and FireWire, and is also able to hold 2 GB of RAM. With an audio-in port as well, its a great choice for musicians that can't afford anything else.
Education-only? My butt!
Mechcozmo said:The eMac works wonders as a pro machine! It has a great, clear, monitor, nice keyboard, optical mouse, USB and FireWire, and is also able to hold 2 GB of RAM. With an audio-in port as well, its a great choice for musicians that can't afford anything else.
Education-only? My butt!
I suppose that's a different way to look at it. Intriguing.
As Mechcozmo just mentioned, the eMac's actual RAM capacity is 2GB (2x1GB modules). The reason why Apple doesn't specify this is probably because it doesn't offer the configuration.cube said:
The number of USB and FW ports is unchanged from the original eMac that came out years ago.x86isslow said:
I agree 100%.x86isslow said:
64MB isn't what Core Image requires. CI requires pixel-level shaders in the GPU. CI will run on a 32MB VRAM FX 5200 (which is in 1GHz 12" PowerBooks). Of course 64MB is better than 32MB, but 64MB doesn't magically "enable" Core Image compared to 32MB.Jo-Kun said:
Mechcozmo said:The eMac works wonders as a pro machine! It has a great, clear, monitor, nice keyboard, optical mouse, USB and FireWire, and is also able to hold 2 GB of RAM. With an audio-in port as well, its a great choice for musicians that can't afford anything else.
Education-only? My butt!
Okay... its not too bad... but it is meant for education
Cheers,
ini
I just have to go on record as saying i was wrong. I was sure eMac was dead and forgotten after going more then a year with Apple doing -0-. Nice upgrade. Apple has some attractive desktops in my view. Very few things wont run on this machine. Emac now matches my Quicksilver I with upgrades.
apple has got to include 512 mb's of ram with every computer...It's ridiculous how even a lowend POWERMAC includes 256 mb's of ram. I would choose an Imac G5 over any other mac..
FF_productions said:
... which is what they are starting to do now with each of their new updates....
2 GB RAM?
I just ordered a new eMac for my computer at work. I maxed it out with 1 GB RAM, or so I thought. Are you now telling me it can take 2 GB, or am I mistaken?
Mechcozmo said:The eMac works wonders as a pro machine! It has a great, clear, monitor, nice keyboard, optical mouse, USB and FireWire, and is also able to hold 2 GB of RAM. With an audio-in port as well, its a great choice for musicians that can't afford anything else.
Education-only? My butt!
I just ordered a new eMac for my computer at work. I maxed it out with 1 GB RAM, or so I thought. Are you now telling me it can take 2 GB, or am I mistaken?
dops7107 said:I just ordered a new eMac for my computer at work. I maxed it out with 1 GB RAM, or so I thought. Are you now telling me it can take 2 GB, or am I mistaken?
Well, buying your RAM from Apple was error #1. They overcharge for all but the 512MB upgrades ($75) but the 1 GB of RAM costs a LOT more that 'fair' value.
And yes, the eMac has two RAM slots. So you can take it up to 2GB of RAM or with 2GB DIMMs I guess you could max out at 4 GB but it hasn't really been tested.
Mechcozmo said:
Sure I realise that. But 1GB over 512 MB was only £70, and believe me ordering memory from another company through our ordering system is far too much work... for my personal Mac Mini, I went straight to Crucial and saved a packet.
Yep, the cardinal rule is, NEVER buy RAM from Apple. The only situation where you should do this if it is for a machine with limited RAM space, and you want a larger module in the first (and possibly non-accessible) slot. I had to do this for my G4 iMac, as only one slot was accessible, so I had to ensure a 512 MB stick was in the factory slot so I could upgrade my machine to 1 GB on my own.
Hmm, question while we're on the (off) topic - can my G4 iMac handle more than 1 GB of RAM? Will it recognize and utilize more if I swapped out my 512 MB module with a GB module?
Hmm, question while we're on the (off) topic - can my G4 iMac handle more than 1 GB of RAM? Will it recognize and utilize more if I swapped out my 512 MB module with a GB module?
~Shard~ said:
Yeah I'd be interested to know that too. So here's what I'm thinking:
1) eMac is *configurable* at purchase with up to 1 GB, but opinion here seems to be that you could put 2x 1GB sticks in anyway. In that case...
2) Is this true of most G4s? Was memory capacity only limited by the sticks on the market at the time, and now 1 gig sticks are available this limit has been lifted?
3) Why can't a Mac Mini take a 2 GB stick? I think there might be a problem with physical room inside the box, but I wonder if it would work in theory?
dops7107 said:
All good quesitons - I have started a new thread on the topic, so let's see what kind of replies we get...