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In case Apple has forgotten how to innovate, how about this lineup?

Macbook Air ($899-1499)
- 13" Retina Display; 15" Edge to Edge Retina Display (the current body is large enough to support this.
- i5; i7 processor
- 16GB RAM standard
- Improved speakers
- 1080p Webcam

MacPad ($1299-1999) [Replaces MacBook]
- 13" Retina Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil)
- 180 Deg. Hinge and Support for Apple Pencil
- i5, i7 Processors AND Apple A10X processor that allows user to hotswap between iOS in tablet mode and MacOS in computer mode
- 16 GB RAM standard
- Integrated Intel 630 Graphics; Intel 1050 Graphics Card
- 1080p Webcam

MacPad Pro 13" ($1799-2999) [Replaces Macbook Pro]
- 13" Retina Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil)
- 180 Deg. Hinge
- i5, i7 Processors AND Apple A11X processor that runs simultaneously to the intel processor (with load balancing battery management features)
- 16, 32 GB RAM
- Retina OLED Screen (e/Force Touch) built in below the entire length of the keyboard that runs iOS apps. It serves as the trackpad as well as offering apps and widgets that augment desktop applications (e.g. The Microsoft PowerPoint Widget provides all of the Powerpoint menus & settings on the iOS screen below the keyboard, allowing you to view the slide being created in "Presentation Mode" at all times. Or you could run a full number pad app. Or any other iOS app!)
- Larger Battery
- Intel 1050; Intel 1060 Graphics
- 500 GB; 1 TB; 2 TB
- All USB C; Micro SD Card Reader; Bluetooth 5.0; 5G LTE Compatible
- 4K Webcam (from iPhone 8)

MacPad Pro 15" ($2499-4999) [Replaces Macbook Pro]
- 15" 4K Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil); 4k OLED Touch Display w/Apple Pencil Support
- 180 Deg. Hinge
- i7, i9 Processors AND Apple A11X processor that runs simultaneously
- 16, 32, 64 GB RAM
- Retina OLED Screen built in below the entire length of the keyboard that runs iOS apps.
- Larger Battery
- Intel 1070; Intel 1080 Graphics
- 500 GB; 1 TB; 2 TB; 4TB with Raid Option built in
- All USB C; Micro SD Card Reader; Bluetooth 5.0; 5G LTE
- Apple Dock Accessory Available (Locks security to MacPad; Doubles Battery; User Upgradable RAM and HD slots (RAID support); USB 3.0 ports; SD Card Reader)
- 4K Webcam
- FaceID
- Wireless Charging
- Weatherproof
- Touch Bar that has one pixel per inch higher density than previous gen (Apple innovation! Woo!)
 
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I know a lot of people who cannot afford macOS because of the expensive hardware, so it might be useful to a specific type of consumers.
Aside from that, well, you can never make everyone happy, there will be always someone like you who whines about things
i can afford anything but thanks for your comment *eye roll*
 
If it is so hard for a $1 trillion company to mount a better screen, toss an existing iPad on top of a decent keyboard, let it run macOS and sell it as the post-MacBook pod whatever.
Joni: the thinnest Mac ever !
(as only I myself can do)
Tim: no, it's an iPad !
Phil: no, it's a touchMac but not a convert, because we don't do converts
Angela: I say whatever Tim says
Craigh: Earthshattering: animoji on a Mac !
John: Ah, recycling outdated HW into a complete new appliance ! Zero provisioning problems !
Tim: Whoops, making deadlines. There goes my pipeline...
etc. etc.
 
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There usually is for at least something on these threads the MacBook Air got the same kind of reception initially.

People were right to complain about the first-gen MacBook Air. It was terrible. It was hot, slow, and had one USB port and one MagSafe port. Fortunately, Apple refined it (a lot), added more USB ports, an SD card reader, improved the battery life, made SSD standard... They improved it and it became one of the most successful laptops ever.

The Retina MacBook is in some ways worse than the first MBA. It has a great screen, but only one port that you also have to tie up if you're charging (even the ****** old first-gen MBA gave you a way to charge and connect at the same time.) The rMB has a terrible keyboard. It's pretty slow, and battery life is substandard.

People have been griping about these compromises since day one, but Apple has made no moves to fix them -- except they made the keyboard a little bit louder to compensate for the total lack of tactile feedback.
 
Not without Apple’s approval.

I beg to differ, Best Buy have offers on Apple products and so do Amazon amount a lot of other places are you telling me they have to get Apple’s permission and that Apple would only do it when they know that they are about to announce/release a new version?
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People were right to complain about the first-gen MacBook Air. It was terrible. It was hot, slow, and had one USB port and one MagSafe port. Fortunately, Apple refined it (a lot), added more USB ports, an SD card reader, improved the battery life, made SSD standard... They improved it and it became one of the most successful laptops ever.

The Retina MacBook is in some ways worse than the first MBA. It has a great screen, but only one port that you also have to tie up if you're charging (even the ****** old first-gen MBA gave you a way to charge and connect at the same time.) The rMB has a terrible keyboard. It's pretty slow, and battery life is substandard.

People have been griping about these compromises since day one, but Apple has made no moves to fix them -- except they made the keyboard a little bit louder to compensate for the total lack of tactile feedback.

That one port can be used for a lot of different things, the MacBook is meant for a wireless world Apple even said this themselves when announcing it. And that was under Steve Jobs which is my point that when people say That it wouldn’t happen under him, people forget the past now that he’s dead.

Some people have complained about it yes I agree with you there but probably not enough in the general consumers area, people on these threads don’t constitute the general consumer who doesn’t give a crap about specs or what keyboard is in a device they just want a laptop.
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While your imagination is definetly there Apple is not going to do that and I wouldn’t want them to. Your idea has Apple simply converting the majority of the lineup into tablets which makes no since for Apple to do that. iPad is the tablet and will continue to be, I would buy a 15” iPad Pro in a heartbeat, heck they could fit a edge to edge 14inch screen in the current frame. As for Macbook Apple will simply put a retina 13” panel in the new Air, while reserving the higher quality P3 panels for the Macbook Pro’s. It will probaly recieve a refreshed 7th gen proccesor and faster PCI-E storage. Starting at $899

I agree, I have no desire what so ever for Apple to go down the route of a Surface style device, that would be terrible! There are two separate devices, the Mac and the iPad. I do however think there will be a 13” MacBook or the Air getting a Retina display.
 
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In case Apple has forgotten how to innovate, how about this lineup?

Macbook Air ($899-1499)
- 13" Retina Display; 15" Edge to Edge Retina Display (the current body is large enough to support this.
- i5; i7 processor
- 16GB RAM standard
- Improved speakers
- 1080p Webcam

MacPad ($1299-1999) [Replaces MacBook]
- 13" Retina Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil)
- 180 Deg. Hinge and Support for Apple Pencil
- i5, i7 Processors AND Apple A10X processor that allows user to hotswap between iOS in tablet mode and MacOS in computer mode
- 16 GB RAM standard
- Integrated Intel 630 Graphics; Intel 1050 Graphics Card
- 1080p Webcam

MacPad Pro 13" ($1799-2999) [Replaces Macbook Pro]
- 13" Retina Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil)
- 180 Deg. Hinge
- i5, i7 Processors AND Apple A11X processor that runs simultaneously to the intel processor (with load balancing battery management features)
- 16, 32 GB RAM
- Retina OLED Screen (e/Force Touch) built in below the entire length of the keyboard that runs iOS apps. It serves as the trackpad as well as offering apps and widgets that augment desktop applications (e.g. The Microsoft PowerPoint Widget provides all of the Powerpoint menus & settings on the iOS screen below the keyboard, allowing you to view the slide being created in "Presentation Mode" at all times. Or you could run a full number pad app. Or any other iOS app!)
- Larger Battery
- Intel 1050; Intel 1060 Graphics
- All USB C; SD Card Reader; Bluetooth 5.0; 5G LTE Compatible
- Apple Dock Accessory Available
- 4K Webcam (from iPhone 8)

MacPad Pro 15" ($2499-4999) [Replaces Macbook Pro]
- 15" 4K Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil); 4k OLED Touch Display w/Apple Pencil Support
- 180 Deg. Hinge
- i7, i9 Processors AND Apple A11X processor that runs simultaneously
- 16, 32, 64 GB RAM
- Retina OLED Screen built in below the entire length of the keyboard that runs iOS apps.
- Larger Battery
- Intel 1070; Intel 1080 Graphics
- All USB C; SD Card Reader; Bluetooth 5.0; 5G LTE
- Apple Dock Accessory Available
- 4K Webcam
- FaceID
- Wireless Charging
- Weatherproof
- Touch Bar that has one pixel per inch higher density than previous gen (Apple innovation! Woo!)
While your imagination is definetly there Apple is not going to do that and I wouldn’t want them to. Your idea has Apple simply converting the majority of the lineup into tablets which makes no since for Apple to do that. iPad is the tablet and will continue to be, I would buy a 15” iPad Pro in a heartbeat, heck they could fit a edge to edge 14inch screen in the current frame. As for Macbook Apple will simply put a retina 13” panel in the new Air, while reserving the higher quality P3 panels for the Macbook Pro’s. It will probaly recieve a refreshed 7th gen proccesor and faster PCI-E storage. Starting at $899
 
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So the MBA will get a Retina display and, therefore, will consume more battery and cycles driving the thing. At 13", the only thing Retina brings is the ability to scale up the resolution. It will probably ship with 1280x800 (pixel-doubled) so a decent 1440x900 will be possible.

USB-C? Oh, that's a fail. Considering there's no apparent Apple-provided standard cable that does it all, one will end up with a dozen cables in a box not knowing what capabilities are present. USB2? USB3? USB3.1? TBolt? Power (and how much?)? More trouble than its worth.

No, the MBA is dead and any replacement that eliminates its current ports in favor of USB-C only makes the current MacBook look even more like the sorry kludge that it is.

The necessity of a "smart chip" in the ends of a USB-C cable is a design flaw. It relies upon quality manufacturers making quality parts; the garbage cables from {parts unknown} along with the acceptance (by Apple) of three or more "classes" of USB-C cables (slow signal, fast signal, power, etc.) make it almost impossible for consumers to buy with confidence.
 
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While your imagination is definetly there Apple is not going to do that and I wouldn’t want them to. Your idea has Apple simply converting the majority of the lineup into tablets which makes no since for Apple to do that. iPad is the tablet and will continue to be, I would buy a 15” iPad Pro in a heartbeat, heck they could fit a edge to edge 14inch screen in the current frame. As for Macbook Apple will simply put a retina 13” panel in the new Air, while reserving the higher quality P3 panels for the Macbook Pro’s. It will probaly recieve a refreshed 7th gen proccesor and faster PCI-E storage. Starting at $899

I don't disagree with most of what you are saying. I know Apple won't use these ideas, but I really do feel like Apple has quit innovating. What can it hurt to throw out some ideas for them to poach?

You SAY you don't want a MacBook tablet, but think about it for a little bit. Imagine being able to have the main screen of your laptop be 100% content (e.g. Video, photo, powerpoint slide, etc.) and then you have all of the controls and options that normally take up your screen real estate on the 3x12" touch screen below the keyboard. You could have third party programs run apps alongside desktop apps to do all kinds of things that you can't currently do. A really good example would be an app that performs automated functions within Adobe Premiere... I might not know how to do a certain task within Premiere, and instead of taking the 2 hours that it normally takes me to google it and learn, I could download the "PremPro" app that would automate those changes for me.
 
Would like to see a 17" again.

A 17-inch makes more sense today than it used to. With the smaller bezels, a 2017 MBP is the same size as my 2008 MacBook. And with people using laptops as their sole computers that don't travel with them too much, a larger screen would be more desireable. I've always liked the increased portability of laptops in the 12- to 14-inch range, but with the small size of the newer models, I'm thinking of moving up to 15-inch model, especially if the 15-inch models are getting an Intel+AMD EMIB chip. (These CPU/GPU combo chips offer great graphics with great power-efficiency. The 13-inch model might not have the thermal and battery capacities for it, though.)
 
Definitely needs that or at least a smaller upgrade to its currently low-quality display.
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A 17-inch makes more sense today than it used to. With the smaller bezels, a 2017 MBP is the same size as my 2008 MacBook. And with people using laptops as their sole computers that don't travel with them too much, a larger screen would be more desireable. I've always liked the increased portability of laptops in the 12- to 14-inch range, but with the small size of the newer models, I'm thinking of moving up to 15-inch model, especially if the 15-inch models are getting an Intel+AMD EMIB chip. (These CPU/GPU combo chips offer great graphics with great power-efficiency. The 13-inch model might not have the thermal and battery capacities for it, though.)
Also, a 17" model should help dissipate heat better. The current 15" rMBP gets hot too quickly when all 4 CPU cores are in use, which I know at least prevents TurboBoost from activating, but I forget whether the CPU also downclocks beyond that when it's hot.
 
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I have a feeling this will be just a refreshed non-TB MacBook Pro. Remember that Apple targeted these towards those liking the 13.3” MacBook Air.

So what we might see
MacBook Air discontinued.
The non-TB MacBook Pro (and maybe the retina MacBook) get some price adjustments.

Nothing to get excited for here folks. The info tells me that. It’s just rumor sites like to speculate more than what it is.
Yeah, does anyone remember in 2016 when Kuo said the supply chain was telling him there would be a 13 in MacBook Air with a TB port and retina? I think a lot of people missed that. Turns out the supply chain was referencing a non-TB MBP (per Shiller on stage).

Does anyone remember the "iPhone Math for a larger display iPhone?" We all laugh at that supply chain/China rumor, but the device was called iPhone Plus/+, so I could see where someone would get the name iPhone Math from.

The supply chain gets the product sort of right, but the naming is always really hazy.
 
In case Apple has forgotten how to innovate, how about this lineup?

Macbook Air ($899-1499)
- 13" Retina Display; 15" Edge to Edge Retina Display (the current body is large enough to support this.
- i5; i7 processor
- 16GB RAM standard
- Improved speakers
- 1080p Webcam

MacPad ($1299-1999) [Replaces MacBook]
- 13" Retina Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil)
- 180 Deg. Hinge and Support for Apple Pencil
- i5, i7 Processors AND Apple A10X processor that allows user to hotswap between iOS in tablet mode and MacOS in computer mode
- 16 GB RAM standard
- Integrated Intel 630 Graphics; Intel 1050 Graphics Card
- 1080p Webcam

MacPad Pro 13" ($1799-2999) [Replaces Macbook Pro]
- 13" Retina Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil)
- 180 Deg. Hinge
- i5, i7 Processors AND Apple A11X processor that runs simultaneously to the intel processor (with load balancing battery management features)
- 16, 32 GB RAM
- Retina OLED Screen (e/Force Touch) built in below the entire length of the keyboard that runs iOS apps. It serves as the trackpad as well as offering apps and widgets that augment desktop applications (e.g. The Microsoft PowerPoint Widget provides all of the Powerpoint menus & settings on the iOS screen below the keyboard, allowing you to view the slide being created in "Presentation Mode" at all times. Or you could run a full number pad app. Or any other iOS app!)
- Larger Battery
- Intel 1050; Intel 1060 Graphics
- All USB C; SD Card Reader; Bluetooth 5.0; 5G LTE Compatible
- Apple Dock Accessory Available
- 4K Webcam (from iPhone 8)

MacPad Pro 15" ($2499-4999) [Replaces Macbook Pro]
- 15" 4K Touch Display (w/Support for Apple Pencil); 4k OLED Touch Display w/Apple Pencil Support
- 180 Deg. Hinge
- i7, i9 Processors AND Apple A11X processor that runs simultaneously
- 16, 32, 64 GB RAM
- Retina OLED Screen built in below the entire length of the keyboard that runs iOS apps.
- Larger Battery
- Intel 1070; Intel 1080 Graphics
- All USB C; SD Card Reader; Bluetooth 5.0; 5G LTE
- Apple Dock Accessory Available
- 4K Webcam
- FaceID
- Wireless Charging
- Weatherproof
- Touch Bar that has one pixel per inch higher density than previous gen (Apple innovation! Woo!)
There are reasons why the MBP is the way it is, some of them are technical decisions (max 16gb for now so they don't have to use the power hungry DDR4), some of them are business decisions (they do have to think about what is going to bring them the most money) and others are UX decision (no touchscreens in laptops). The people who took these decisions are smart people and they think it is best for the company. Some will like these decisions some won't but they can't make everyone happy. If you don't like them there are always other computer manufacturers out there who might take decisions you prefer.

I'm not trying to defend Apple, I dislike some of the decisions they take too. I'm just tired of comments suggesting Apple needs our great ideas to innovate. I'm sure they thought of everything you listed but decided against it for now.

And btw, it's Nvidia Geforce 1050, 1060 and 1070, not Intel.
 
People saying they want a super 12inch MacBook come MacBook Pro really don't get the MacBook and people after extreme portability.
 
Not interested. Just fix the MBP:
  • bring back ports
  • fix keyboard
  • lower price to 2014 level for similar config
  • fix macOS's current bugs and instability
or else...
 
There are reasons why the MBP is the way it is, some of them are technical decisions (max 16gb for now so they don't have to use the power hungry DDR4), some of them are business decisions (they do have to think about what is going to bring them the most money) and others are UX decision (no touchscreens in laptops). The people who took these decisions are smart people and they think it is best for the company. Some will like these decisions some won't but they can't make everyone happy. If you don't like them there are always other computer manufacturers out there who might take decisions you prefer.

I'm not trying to defend Apple, I dislike some of the decisions they take too. I'm just tired of comments suggesting Apple needs our great ideas to innovate. I'm sure they thought of everything you listed but decided against it for now.

And btw, it's Nvidia Geforce 1050, 1060 and 1070, not Intel.

They could have more than made up for any lost power efficiency in going from DDR3L -> DDR4 by just keeping the batteries the same size as they were in prior generations, since Intel's increased generational power efficiencies going from Broadwell -> Skylake -> Kaby Lake -> Coffee Lake would have made up the slack (and then some), probably.

But then they couldn't have made them so ... thin. They took Intel's generational power efficiency increases and rather than using them to move up to DDR4 or simply extend battery life even further, they ... shrank the batteries. So that they could make the devices thinner.

Some of us just don't get the thinness/lightness obsession. Maybe we're just not Apple's target demographic and should just stop trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
 
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I have been waiting on a new 15 MBP with better specs and no TB for so long, and my faith in Apple is diminishing. My iPhone X isn't too bad, but it's not without it's only bugs, mainly software glitches. My perfect mbp would probably be. magsafe, (1+) usb-a, (3+) usb-c/thunderbolt, (1x) hdmi, and 8th gen intel processor, upto 32gb ram, and better screen resolution -- no TB.

On a side note, I am seriously looking at the new Dell XPS 13 and 15. I have switched to coding mainly using VS Code so transitioning from Mac to Windows again would be a lot easier. I have already developed apps for the surface pro tablet soooooo was forced to use that quite a bit and have experienced that Windows 10 isn't really that bad or worse than MacOS. Any one make this switch already?

I think I am going to hold the switch off until WWDC, but crap, we don't need to wait that long. Let them just release better stuff ASAP. I am sick of arbitrary more marketing-filled-theatrical releases--I understand it for consumers though (they need some motivation at times). As a working tech professional, I need solutions NOW. :)

*fingers crossed*
 
If the MacBook Air gets a 13.3" 2560x1600 screen, I'd like to see the 13" MacBook Pro move to a 2880x1800 screen and the 15" MacBook Pro move to a 3,360x2,100 screen. I often like the extra desktop space of scaled 1440x900 on the 13" MacBook Pro and it'd be great to get that as a native scaled density.
Couldn’t agree more.

Back in 2011, before Retina MBPs came out, there was a hi-res screen upgrade option on 15” MBPs that gave a 1680x1050 screen. It feels so bad to go from that to native 2x 1440x900 of today’s rMBPs, or have to constantly use a non-natively scaled 1680x1050 on the 2880x1800 screen.

While we’re at this, they should also upgrade the 12” MB to a 2560x1600 screen so you could use 1280x800 natively on it. It’s a much better fit than the current native 1152x720. Or at least make hi-res screens a BTO option again...
 
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They could have more than made up for any lost power efficiency in going from DDR3L -> DDR4 by just keeping the batteries the same size as they were in prior generations, since Intel's increased generational power efficiencies going from Broadwell -> Skylake -> Kaby Lake -> Coffee Lake would have made up the slack (and then some), probably.

But then they couldn't have made them so ... thin. They took Intel's generational power efficiency increases and rather than using them to move up to DDR4 or simply extend battery life even further, they ... shrank the batteries. So that they could make the devices thinner.

Some of us just don't get the thinness/lightness obsession. Maybe we're just not Apple's target demographic and should just stop trying to fit a square peg into a round hole.
Exactly!

They took that decision and it seems to work out great for them because they are making a ton of money out of these laptops, probably more than if they went on the thicker more powerful workstation path. Sadly that leaves some users no choice but to look elsewhere.
 
The Retina Display was the big reason to jump from the $999 Macbook Air to the $1299 Macbook. Should be interesting to see how this shakes out if Apple manages a 13" Retina Display in a Macbook that's supposedly even "cheaper" than $999.

You're pretty much killing any reason to buy the 12" Macbook if you do that.
 
My dream is for one day for Apple to have a 15-inch notebook for $1,299. Or at least $1,499. 13-inches is too small!

A great workaround for me for more screen area has been the "duet" app, for extending a 2nd screen onto an iPad connected via usb cable to my 13" MBA.

And...instant retina display!
 
That one port can be used for a lot of different things, the MacBook is meant for a wireless world Apple even said this themselves when announcing it. And that was under Steve Jobs which is my point that when people say That it wouldn’t happen under him, people forget the past now that he’s dead.
The MacBook is meant for a wireless world..........in other words it does not offer anything in the selection of ports with the exception of USB-C which means the user is almost certainly going to need to purchase a docking station. By the way the vast majority of peripherals are USB 3.0 so without a docking station the MacBook is rendered useless.
 
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With the $999+ price point a Retina display makes sense. For $799 or so there’s no way they would’ve included one. It’s now likely they’ll get rid of the non-TB MacBook Pro depending on the CPUs and ports they include here. It looks like this will be a win for people who want something newer but don’t want to spend $2000 for a 13” notebook.

However, it will probably come with the new keyboard which will turn off the most loyal MBA fans. I’ve now had a 15” TB for over a year and am completely used to the keyboard but whenever I use an older MBP or an Air, the keyboard does feel more natural.
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The MacBook is meant for a wireless world..........in other words it does not offer anything in the selection of ports with the exception of USB-C which means the user is almost certainly going to need to purchase a docking station. By the way the vast majority of peripherals are USB 3.0 so without a docking station the MacBook is rendered useless.

I think that the USB Type-A port will be a lot harder for people to give up compared to DVD burners. It’s been in use for about 2 decades and has a solid feel. I’ve gotten used to using adapters all the time and still haven’t bought a native USB-C flash drive. But the versatility of the port especially with TB3 is unparalleled. You decide what those ports will do. On the TB models you can charge from either side no longer having a cable awkwardly going around the back of the machine when an outlet is to your right.
 
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The MacBook is meant for a wireless world..........in other words it does not offer anything in the selection of ports with the exception of USB-C which means the user is almost certainly going to need to purchase a docking station. By the way the vast majority of peripherals are USB 3.0 so without a docking station the MacBook is rendered useless.

Nope, you obviously didn’t watch the keynote because they explained it. The MacBook is not going to be used by a power user so mainly people who are searching the web, sending email, writing documents and so on, for those people USB sticks are not needed, hell I edit footage for YouTube and I don’t need usb sticks or anything, edit on my iMac (2012) or MacBook Pro (2011) and upload straight to YouTube, granted it’s not my bread and butter that comes from writing but I still don’t need to use USB sticks (most of the stuff I write gets emailed).

The wireless world is the future for the MacBook the problem is that just like the Air was It’s a little too far into the future at the moment.

There’s only one port on the MacBook because most people who use it will only use that one port and most of the time it’s going to be for charging.
 
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