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New Features in iOS 6 Receive Spotty Support from Older Devices
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But with all due respect - fragmentation is fragmentation. Apple's fragmentation is always going to be smaller because of the number of devices they, alone make to run their OS.
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The issue isn't whether or not Apple has fragmentation. It's the fact that they try awfully hard to use the fact that Android is fragmented as a differentiator. Which seems hypocritical.
Eight devices all under the one roof with the same interface and appstore is fragmented? In the same way Anrdoid is fragmented? OK?
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Um, no, it does not. That's like saying it's hypocritical for someone who illegally parked to criticise a mass murderer. They're both criminals, but there's a bit of a difference in scale; one is almost inconsequential, the other is a danger to society.
If you don't see that difference, then you don't see that difference, and there's no point in trying to make a point that is self-evident to others. I know how I feel from a development standpoint.
Only - in the iOS world - the fragmentation can be seen as roughly the same.
Using your analogy. It's like saying that NYC has more crime than some city in Anyplace, USA - but the reality is - Per Capita - it's roughly the same.
Sure - NYC might have more crime, but you're not any safer because the odds are the same you would be a victim.
That is an absurd analogy, since we're dealing with observable and detrimental fragmentation on any given device, which manifests from the difficulty in accomodating a number of devices a few orders of magnitude greater in diversity of hardware. Your analogy does not work from a per-capita mindset, as the product of the whole is amplified in and projected onto a single product. Nice try.
Thanks. I thought your analogy was ridiculous as well. Most are. I wouldn't feel bad. But you can keep telling me how fragmented Android is and how having an iPhone is better because fragmentation isn't an issue.
I have grounds for my assessment of your analogy, you do not of mine; mine followed a sound and substantiated path of logic, yours did not.
Your reasoning comes down to the equivalent of 'because I have faith'; I'm glad that everyone else can see this short conversation, as they'll take your history of cognitive dissonance and irrationalism into account when next they view any of your opinions.
iOS 6 runs great on the iPhone 4 and brings most of the 200 new changes to the phone. Yes it's missing some of the key features on the iPhone 5 and even some of the iPhone 4S features, but its a fine upgrade.
Really tired of people getting mad about something essentially two years old not being supported. My Vibrant wasn't supported past 6 months.!
I would like to know how we complain to Apple? I cannot understand why my less than a year old iPad 2 will not get Siri? As far as I understand it has the same CPU inside as the iPad 3!!
As a relatively new Apple buyer this really doesn't impress me with loyal customer service, my device is obsolete already?
As a relatively new Apple buyer this really doesn't impress me with loyal customer service, my device is obsolete already?
Exactly that really annoys me, I thought Apple were about thier customers but it seems like thier just as bad as all the rest, rip off's!
I was just going to order an iPhone 5 & have been waiting for the app store to reopen as I had caved in but now been reading about the huge cost of the port adapter, that's a massive mark up..WTF now I'm not going to.
Well not today anyway
Wish there was somewhere to complain...So disappointed with the ripp off attitude.
I was just going to order an iPhone 5 & have been waiting for the app store to reopen as I had caved in
but now been reading about the huge cost of the port adapter, that's a massive mark up..WTF now I'm not going to. Well not today anyway
Wish there was somewhere to complain...So disappointed with the ripp off attitude.
I have grounds for my assessment of your analogy, you do not of mine; mine followed a sound and substantiated path of logic, yours did not.
Your reasoning comes down to the equivalent of 'because I have faith'; I'm glad that everyone else can see this short conversation, as they'll take your history of cognitive dissonance and irrationalism into account when next they view any of your opinions.
It's fascinating that you think you have ground and I do not. I'm sure there's no personal bias involved. I'm glad people can see this conversation too as it shows the complete absurdity of using analogies about crime and hypocricy that don't remotely relate to electronic devices in the first place.
I'm not sure I care what other people think of me - I post my opinions which almost always are backed up with facts/links/etc which are rational and sound. And if they aren't - anyone is welcome to offer their own. The fact that you want to resort to hyperbole says a lot more about you then it does about me.
Have a great weekend.
It's fascinating that you think you have ground and I do not. I'm sure there's no personal bias involved. I'm glad people can see this conversation too as it shows the complete absurdity of using analogies about crime and hypocricy that don't remotely relate to electronic devices in the first place.
I'm not sure I care what other people think of me - I post my opinions which almost always are backed up with facts/links/etc which are rational and sound. And if they aren't - anyone is welcome to offer their own. The fact that you want to resort to hyperbole says a lot more about you then it does about me.
Have a great weekend.
Your illiteracy aside, my analogy was to compare the scale of fragmentation, which was relative to the variation of Android devices available. The amount of fragmentation, if it even has any (which it doesn't, the interface remains consistent with an almost universal compatibility with apps), is inconsequential to that present on any given Android device. There is no universal store where you can be sure your app you previously purchased will run adequately, there's no unified interface, there's no consistency at all between differing models (unlike a Windows machine/phone or iOS device).
So, learn what hyperbole means and use it in context, have a basis for your opinions, don't be hypocritical about bias in the face of evidence against your position, and don't mis-represent your statements as fact based, when they clearly aren't. Nice to see your frustration manifesting itself in observable ways, btw, in the form of applying false attributes to my statements. Seems a tad desperate.
Well, what Apple's been doing is only giving major support for the previous two models, the newest with the most features. Now that the iPhone 5 is out, it kind of. Makes sense to me that the iPhone 4 has less features, and I definitely get why they chose not to give the iPhone 3G no new features. Just my 2¢.
Your illiteracy aside, my analogy was to compare the scale of fragmentation, which was relative to the variation of Android devices available. The amount of fragmentation, if it even has any (which it doesn't, the interface remains consistent with an almost universal compatibility with apps), is inconsequential to that present on any given Android device. There is no universal store where you can be sure your app you previously purchased will run adequately, there's no unified interface, there's no consistency at all between differing models (unlike a Windows machine/phone or iOS device).
So, learn what hyperbole means and use it in context, have a basis for your opinions, don't be hypocritical about bias in the face of evidence against your position, and don't mis-represent your statements as fact based, when they clearly aren't. Nice to see your frustration manifesting itself in observable ways, btw, in the form of applying false attributes to my statements. Seems a tad desperate.
Oh the hypocrisy. Your little "lecture" is also available for all to see. No frustration here. Perhaps you should re-read the statements you made and then take your own advice and learn what hyperbole means. Or at least figure out what, in your post, I was actually referring to by that statement. Have a great weekend.
Calling 3gs compatible is a stretch if you have seen 3gs running iOS 5. I'll be curious to see how iPhone4 handles iOS 6. IPad 1 was pretty terrible with iOS 5 as well.
You must have had dud hardware; I experienced no problems on my dev models.
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Oh my god. Support for some features not available on older devices? Shame on Apple.
This has shattered my little world and I have taken gross personal offence at it. I will now burn all of my I devices and never buy an iPhone again.
This would never have happened under Steve etc, etc....
This has shattered my little world and I have taken gross personal offence at it. I will now burn all of my I devices and never buy an iPhone again.
This would never have happened under Steve etc, etc....
Oh my god. Support for some features not available on older devices? Shame on Apple.
This has shattered my little world and I have taken gross personal offence at it. I will now burn all of my I devices and never buy an iPhone again.
This would never have happened under Steve etc, etc....
I echo this sentiment.
Yeah, it's a definite bummer that older devices have less features and don't run as zippy and snappytastic as new models do, but that is the nature of technology.
I'm still using my 3rd generation iPod touch -- no camera, sluggish as hell, lacking features that the fifth generation will have, etc. But you know what? It still works, and I have no immediate plans to go rush to buy the newest fantastically wonderful super-karate-monkey-death-car fifth generation of the iPod touch. When I bought the damn thing, I knew that Apple would eventually release an improved model and I knew that at some point, the updated software would no longer function on my device. When I bought the thing, Apple made no guarantee of future feature/software support.
On another note, I'm still using my first generation Intel-based iMac. I'm stuck on Mac OS X 10.6 -- the horrors!!!
Well said. When I had my HTC Desire, I got one OS update and that was it. It was only a point upgrade too. My wife had the same experience with a Galaxy S.
Apple are quite generous with their support and I think their approach of limiting features on older and slower devices is an intelligent one based on user experience.
I too have a Touch 3rd Generation which is still providing good service as a dedicated music player. The battery life is going now so I am considering getting a now discounted Touch 4G to replace it.
Sometimes you have to enjoy what you originally bought for what it is!
I used to really like the way apple did the podcasts. You search and download them from itunes stores, then play them using iPod. I really dislike the new podcast app, I wish I could at least play my podcast after downloading them from podcast app using the ipod app from podcast menu. Another thing that I dislike is how you search and select download from podcast app, but then need to go to itunes store app to see their download status.
Please apple make a single app that does everything or leave it the old way.
Please apple make a single app that does everything or leave it the old way.