People are complaining now that their iPhone4 won't support certain features like FaceTime over cellular and turn-by-turn navigation. Wait until the iPhone5 is announced and iPhone4S owners will start complaining of missing out on certain features. That just how Apple operates, if you want all the greatest you gotta keep upgrading your device every year!
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So how do you explain the iPad 1 fiasco? It certainly has all the capabilities of the iPhone 3GS, yet there is no iOS 6, even a crippled iOS 6 like the 3GS has. Apple tested it...? I find that one hard to believe, but maybe I'm just not as gullible as others.
Why not save yourself a lot of money and purchase a gps app instead, I have the navigon one, works really well.
according to this from the apple ios 6 page facetime is not available for the iphone 4.
"FaceTime over a cellular network requires iPhone 4S or iPad (3rd generation) with cellular data capability. Carrier data charges may apply. FaceTime is not available in all countries."
Maps is now a completely different app, plain and simple. I enjoy Street View myself, but as a platform Maps is moving in a positive direction now. You can't expect them to keep every little feature (with a Google backend). BTW, can anyone comment on whether or not the 3D views are detailed enough to substitute Street View?
If a particular feature is that important, dont upgrade. People act as if their current products will self-destruct when iOS 6 launches.
Wow people are still bringing this up? Of course all features aren't supported. Be lucky they're supported at all (look at Android). 3GS is slow as it is, let alone being able to run 3D maps.
I can assure you that FaceTime over 3G on an iPhone 4 works just fine..
Also, no Siri on iPad 2?? Why?? Now there's just no excuse for that.. (other than "well we want you to upgrade your iPad every year, silly!")
I'm going to sign off for the evening, but I appreciate everyone commenting.
I'd just leave with this thought.
Can there be any real doubt that was a decision made by suits? Where is the old Apple where the hackers and designers had the final say and not the bean counters?
I'm not a Jobs fanboy, I know he was looking to make money; however, I think he realized that making the best product is what counted most. I have yet to see the decision by Tim Cook where I can say design was paramount.
I'd just leave with this thought.
Can there be any real doubt that was a decision made by suits? Where is the old Apple where the hackers and designers had the final say and not the bean counters?
I'm not a Jobs fanboy, I know he was looking to make money; however, I think he realized that making the best product is what counted most. I have yet to see the decision by Tim Cook where I can say design was paramount.
I was wondering the same thing but I can probably bet it's a step lower then the iPhone 4 so I doubt it.
This was not a hardware decision, it was purely a marketing decision.
Well, we all know that Apple's marketing team in AU ****ed up to the tune of a $2M fine for incorrectly marketing 4G capability in Australia. Wouldn't be surprised if they did it again.
Really
Seriously, what in the world is preventing FaceTime from being used over 3G with the iPhone 4? Seriously....what? You smell that, smells like bull. Bullfrog that is.
Seriously, what in the world is preventing FaceTime from being used over 3G with the iPhone 4? Seriously....what? You smell that, smells like bull. Bullfrog that is.
what most iphone 4 owners are failing to realize (yes I own a 4) is that this 6.0 software isn't coming out until the fall which is the same time the new iphone should be released so you won't be missing anything. So you 4 owns gotta relax given that most of us 4 owners got our phones in 2010 your due for an upgrade anyway
That doesn't sound right, how can you be sure it's related to your phone, did you maybe get the update procedures from the wrong website. Have you maybe been following the up yours date guidelines?This is why my relationship with Apple is a love/hate relationship. I mean they have great hardware and software, but every update while I still own my iPhone for I just get more and more bent over and mad.
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it surely does, hence the iP4 peeps are being left out for so many features which it could have had.
Remember how iPhone & iPod touch 2nd gen were not totally updated to multitask & a wallpaper background for the icons? that was done even when those devices mattered but iPhone 4 was launched & the contract for the 2nd gen iPhones was about to expire.
Maybe you shouldn't?, your phone still does what it did when you bought it.
Its nice to get the upgrades in functionality, but I can't ignore the fact that my phone still does what its supposed to do when I purchased it. One thing that does annoy me tho is the major slowdowns new iOS versions always seem to bring. That I think is a good reason to feel ridiculously ripped off.
That's only for the AT&T 4S. The Verizon and Sprint 4S models are plain 3G. Unless you think that Facetime over cellular will be an AT&T only feature for the 4S.
Considering I get frequently get as fast or faster speeds on my iPad 2 than my iPhone 4S, I don't think the 4G only theory holds much water. The only reason they won't add FaceTime over cellular to anything but the current iPhone and iPad is to sell more devices. If they had announced the iPhone 5 at WWDC, I'm sure they would have limited Facetime over Cellular to the iPhone 5 only and not added it to the 4S.
I kindly disagree.. You do not need to have a degree or become an expert in the hardware to know that the decision to not have FaceTime over 3G for the iPhone 4 is being driven by AT&T... All those devices would stress the network (imagine iOS 6 launch day) Also, it seems that in other countries, as posted earlier in the thread, the service is available for the iPhone 4.
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Exactly! They should enable it considering Facetime was introduced with the iPhone 4 and they said it was only Wifi at the time but that 3G support would come in the future. So iPhone 4 owners have been rightfully waiting for it. Kinda dishonest me thinks... they should reconsider. Other features like turn by turn navigation and flyover, I understand they might need more power. But 3G Facetime... come on.
Will someone write to Tim?
It's just crazy. People are getting things for free without paying a dime, the same day the flagship phone is getting the new OS, and is complaining that it's not good enough...
When it's lucky soemtimes for the Android guys to barely get a patch/fix, let alone a full OS upgrade. And if they are getting it, probably some half year afterwards.
SW development is a very expensive business. There are companies that runs on making $ on SW alone. Apple is giving this out for FREE, to a 3 years old phone called the 3GS. the iPhone 4 is surprise surprise, a 2 years old phone, even older than the GSII.
And all these talk about Android phones being much superior. Spec-wise, probably when it's brand new, especially when pitted against an iPhone that's half years or more in. I have yet to seen anyone carrying around an Android that's over 2 years old and is using the latest Apps. The Android owner probably got sick of it and upgraded already. Don't even mention the resale value and liquididty of an Android phone compared to a used iPhone.
I have a co-worker whose happily using 3GS on iOS5 and the Euro 2012 app. I asked him, heck iOS5 must be slow as hell on the 3GS. And he said, "Nope, it runs faster than when it was on iOS4". Upgrading his phone haven't came across his mind at all. A company that tries to optimize the latest OS against a 3 years old phone which they are barely getting any $$ at all. That's customer satisfaction.
Giving you the newest feature meant for the flagship to your 3 years old phone is called ripping shareholders off.
When it's lucky soemtimes for the Android guys to barely get a patch/fix, let alone a full OS upgrade. And if they are getting it, probably some half year afterwards.
SW development is a very expensive business. There are companies that runs on making $ on SW alone. Apple is giving this out for FREE, to a 3 years old phone called the 3GS. the iPhone 4 is surprise surprise, a 2 years old phone, even older than the GSII.
And all these talk about Android phones being much superior. Spec-wise, probably when it's brand new, especially when pitted against an iPhone that's half years or more in. I have yet to seen anyone carrying around an Android that's over 2 years old and is using the latest Apps. The Android owner probably got sick of it and upgraded already. Don't even mention the resale value and liquididty of an Android phone compared to a used iPhone.
I have a co-worker whose happily using 3GS on iOS5 and the Euro 2012 app. I asked him, heck iOS5 must be slow as hell on the 3GS. And he said, "Nope, it runs faster than when it was on iOS4". Upgrading his phone haven't came across his mind at all. A company that tries to optimize the latest OS against a 3 years old phone which they are barely getting any $$ at all. That's customer satisfaction.
Giving you the newest feature meant for the flagship to your 3 years old phone is called ripping shareholders off.
If you ask me, it may not be 1000 resolutions but it's still a lot worst than Apple's "two resolutions + HiDPI modes".