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slitherjef

slitherjef

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So long time ago built a first Gen ryzen 7 1700x rig 16gb DDR 4 ram rx580 graphics card. And running w11. Been doing basic computer task mostly media viewing, a little bit of photography and some gaming via steam. Beamng probably biggest resource need...

Been wondering about if a graphics card might be a worthwhile upgrade, say a Nvidia 3080 or something or if the system (which is out of date but still working) is even worth it and coupled with the insane prices due to AI if I should cut the loses on the box all together and go console (which also is effected by insane prices because components).

Is this box even worth it to find components for?
 
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slitherjef said:
So long time ago built a first Gen ryzen 7 1700x rig 16gb DDR 4 ram rx580 graphics card. And running w11. Been doing basic computer task mostly media viewing, a little bit of photography and some gaming via steam. Beamng probably biggest resource need...

Been wondering about if a graphics card might be a worthwhile upgrade, say a Nvidia 3080 or something or if the system (which is out of date but still working) is even worth it and coupled with the insane prices due to AI if I should cut the loses on the box all together and go console (which also is effected by insane prices because components).

Is this box even worth it to find components for?
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Does it run BeamNG okay now? If so, no. Or is there something else you're looking to play that it can't handle? What res do you want to play at? Can you get a 3080 at a good price?

You could also upgrade the CPU too, a 5000 series should be a pretty big bump assuming your board can be updated to support that. Even going with something lowend like a 5500.
 
Meh not really sure what I'm after, the pricing insanity is not helping things. Been trying to figure out what the best course of action is trying to get back into gaming, using what I got or kind of starting from scratch.

Here is the CPU support for my mobo which might have some possibilities to upgrade should I go that route and not brick it doing a bios update...


I also have an additional 16gb DDR 4 ram in another decommissioned desktop (just realized stocks are running 1066mhz since when I built the thing I read ryzen likes slower stuff (also have read 1st Gen ryzen has problems with 4 sticks of ram over 2).

Anyway the possible upgrade isn't just for beamng, just something to raise the ceiling a little bit.

Kind of torn between this and my meager steam library of mostly indies or going console and maybe replace the desktop all together (looks at the m4 Mac mini that's still packed in its box).

I ended up with a couple PS5 games and don't want to borrow my sisters system (though I could). So kind of got a PS 5 in mind (possibly pro but just got a bottom of the barrel 4k 60hz Sony TV on hand.
 
slitherjef said:
So long time ago built a first Gen ryzen 7 1700x rig 16gb DDR 4 ram rx580 graphics card. And running w11. Been doing basic computer task mostly media viewing, a little bit of photography and some gaming via steam. Beamng probably biggest resource need...

Been wondering about if a graphics card might be a worthwhile upgrade, say a Nvidia 3080 or something or if the system (which is out of date but still working) is even worth it and coupled with the insane prices due to AI if I should cut the loses on the box all together and go console (which also is effected by insane prices because components).

Is this box even worth it to find components for?
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I would try to source a 2060 or 2070 super. I am running the 2070 super in my workstation and it's really good. Am I going to out pace a 5090? Nope....But my graphics card didn't cost 2000 dollars either. Toss in the extra ram, and also have a look at maybe getting a little faster cpu for your socket type later. I think graphics performance is what you need if you are streaming.

I find my system is still plenty fast and powerful enough for everything except benchmarking against the best systems of today. ha ha.
 
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Been wondering about if a graphics card might be a worthwhile upgrade, say a Nvidia 3080
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I would avoid ebay and buying used, there's just too many scammers out there.

If you live near a Microcenter, they have bundled deals, I was able to get a decent build thrown together for about 1700 dollars. Not sure your budget but that's pretty good AMD 9700X/32GB of ram/2 TB of storage and for video a RX 6600. Not the most powerful gpu, but its an upgrade for what you have. I'm just saying that as an option given that you still can build a PC that's fairly well performing wise for under 2,000
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You could give the Mac Mini a try with crossover.
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I found the mini M4 Pro Mini to be lacking in gaming under crossover. There's also the heat and the poor cooling of the Mini (at least the M4 Pro flavor). I think if he can find one, look for a M4 Max Studio for around $1,800 or wait for the M5 Max Studio. They just announced the discontinuance of the MAc Pro, and I think they did that to have a mac pro fence sitters to get the Studio. Connecting the dots, the M5 Studio's release is nearing.
 
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They already have the Mac Mini, so no* extra money would need to be spend. At least they could try it out and see how it performs before spending a bunch of money upgrading their PC (which at this point would be pretty close to just needing to build a new one). We haven't even touched on what their power supply is rated for, or storage type/speeds.


*I guess a crossover license would make this untrue.
 
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Well, as not to leave the thread hanging, I just committed a brutal deed on my wallet... With a price increase announcement, while I still could and it was a bit of a wild goose chase, I went a bit different direction...

Got a PlayStation 5... Pro 😳😵

Been thinking about it for a while and while being borderline over priced as it was, the recent announcement just pushed me over the edge.

So this PC? Guess it's still working and should play my current and a few other steam games. Kind of just didn't want to mess with things anymore.
 
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slitherjef said:
Well, as not to leave the thread hanging, I just committed a brutal deed on my wallet... With a price increase announcement, while I still could and it was a bit of a wild goose chase, I went a bit different direction...

Got a PlayStation 5... Pro 😳😵

Been thinking about it for a while and while being borderline over priced as it was, the recent announcement just pushed me over the edge.

So this PC? Guess it's still working and should play my current and a few other steam games. Kind of just didn't want to mess with things anymore.
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As long as you are happy, who cares what others think. My last PS was a PS3, and I still have my modded PS1. They are fun for sure.

Enjoy the playstation.
 
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Basic75 said:
Let's hope the Steam Machine drops soon, and with a decent price. Or as decent as can be expected in 2026.
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Steve Adams said:
As far as I know, the steam machine is delayed. I am guessing due to Ram/SSD prices right now.
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As noted, it is delayed, Valve has semi-committed to 2026 but I don't expect to see it anytime soon. The price point may also be a painful one - closer to 2k, then 1k
 
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In a similar vein, Sony has upped the prices of the PS5/PS5 Pro by a 100 and 150 respectfully.

The PS5 Pro is now 900 dollars - I can't see that being sustainable.

arstechnica.com

Sony is raising PlayStation 5 prices again, this time by between $100 and $150

Memory, storage shortages have made all kinds of consumer tech more expensive.
arstechnica.com arstechnica.com
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Nope. but Corps will take advantage of consumers any way possible. That's another reason I am hanging off buying new systems right now. waiting for the bubble to burst and everything come back to REALITY.
 
Ok, so a little update and a bit of a nagging thought in the back of my mind, I think I might have messed up falling into the fomo panic buying trap with the console. Not that I'm thinking one box is better than the other (each has their merits which explains some thought processes) but I'm having issues trying to get into the console.

Picked up a couple digital games with the gift card. One a FPS and I found it pretty difficult trying to do things with a controller. Ok, so maybe FPS is not my jam on the console. Also got cyberpunk which I have yet to try.

While out today looking for games for the PS5, I really couldn't find anything (a lot of shelves where pretty thin as it was) but not a whole lot caught my eye.

So maybe back to the drawing board about a possible PC upgrade and maybe a double dip of high on life on PC (does look like a fun game, just hard to control on console). And use the PS5 for a couple other types of games maybe platformers or something.

There could be a use case of a gaming laptop but really not sure about that.

Ugh I picked a bad time to try to get back into computers and gaming 😖 😳
 
Found a nice ASRock 6700 xt or something on Amazon for about 280, so went to a device that was signed in with prime and couldn't find it 😒

Kind of frustrating.

I totally forgot about the possibility of a steam machine that's due to release this year. I.... Ugh... Not so sure on that. Even if it does release I'm guessing it's going to be very difficult to come by with stock shortages...
 
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Found a nice ASRock 6700 xt or something on Amazon for about 280, so went to a device that was signed in with prime and couldn't find it 😒

Kind of frustrating.

I totally forgot about the possibility of a steam machine that's due to release this year. I.... Ugh... Not so sure on that. Even if it does release I'm guessing it's going to be very difficult to come by with stock shortages...
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6700 xt would be a very healthy upgrade for that system. I would also keep an eye out for some deals on a newer ryzen 5000 series chip, will feel like a whole new system. Your board supports all those chips, just need to make sure its on the latest bios.

Just helped a friend do an upgrade on their older ryzen system, last year. Bumped the ram up, 5700x chip and was a very noticeable improvement from their old 3600x/16gb combo before hand
 
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Still pondering some upgrades for this thing.

Came across an Asus Radeon RX 9060 GPU with 16gb ddr6 vram for about 500. About the only thing available.

Would likely be bottlenecked by the ancient CPU I got and very slow DDR 4 ram (1066mhz)

The CPU I haven't looked into yet, guessing $2-300 bucks and that would be manageable. I would need to see if the GPU would actually work in my system.

Still wondering if it would actually be worth upgrading this rig or the slightly newer one I had ran Linux on for a while. Or if I should just forget it all together.
 
slitherjef said:
Still pondering some upgrades for this thing.

Came across an Asus Radeon RX 9060 GPU with 16gb ddr6 vram for about 500. About the only thing available.

Would likely be bottlenecked by the ancient CPU I got and very slow DDR 4 ram (1066mhz)

The CPU I haven't looked into yet, guessing $2-300 bucks and that would be manageable. I would need to see if the GPU would actually work in my system.

Still wondering if it would actually be worth upgrading this rig or the slightly newer one I had ran Linux on for a while. Or if I should just forget it all together.
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2133mhz, they don’t even make 1066mhz ddr4 lol. Also are you sure it’s only 2133 ram or is xmp just not been enabled. I had a friend do the same thing, bought DDR4 3600mhz ram and forgot to turn on xmp for the first 2 years until I took a look at it and noticed that lol.

The gpu plus moving up to something like a 5600x would make a oretty big difference
 
So been going around and around with this box and windows and updates and boot loops because windows wanted to update in the middle of me doing something else and refused to proceed until it was done with its task.

Then fought with the thumb drive I was trying to use that windows wouldn't read wanted to format then complained the thumb drive was write protected.

Finally got that sorted and the motherboard eufi misbehaving next detecting the new bios on the drive then telling me it's not detected so more tinkering and a day later same thing.

Even tried Internet update and it failed telling me to check my connections. Ugh it's wired.

So I'm at a loss and about ready to cut my losses and just walk away from this system. I do have a thought that perhaps there is too much of a difference between the current bios and new one I'm trying to update to. Maybe I need a couple incremental updates to bring the board up to speed? I'm not sure. I am getting to the point where I just don't want to mess with things at all anymore.

Maybe I can build a new system for 1k-1500$ I'm not sure. I'm not sure I want to even fiddle with things anymore. Pricing is insane.
 
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