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New iBook and Mac mini Part Numbers?
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In the past its usually been 9 A.M. Pacific, 12 P.M. Eastern Time, at least the updates I've witness the past year-or-so on Tuesdays... So IMHO you might have to wait 'til noon on the east coast... But lets hope I'm wrong! How about 9 on the east coast and 6 a.m. on the west, sounds good to me 
sw1tcher said:Get it infected with viruses and spyware/malware.
Which I have affectionately started calling the "Virus/Spyware Tax".
Plecky said:In the past its usually been 9 A.M. Pacific, 12 P.M. Eastern Time, at least the updates I've witness the past year-or-so on Tuesdays... So IMHO you might have to wait 'til noon on the east coast... But lets hope I'm wrong! How about 9 on the east coast and 6 a.m. on the west, sounds good to me
As far as I can remember, it's always been 9 am eastern - except for special events (Macworld, Apple expo, etc).
macrumors12345 said:
Wow, so bassiclly according to you, nothing will happen. They'll just say New iBooks on the front page and call it a day/update. An update is an update (especially after 9 months) and mark my words, iBooks will be getting standard Bluetooth (it's the least they can do for a "portable" computer when the iMacs, big, bulky non-portable machines, updated THREE months ago got it standard). It is that hard to BTO just for the cheapest add-on and wait two weeks when you can't just drive or walk on down and pick it up from the local store with built in BT.
ph0rce said:that guy kicks some ass... i love the guys work, they all look so cool....
heres the URL to that guys work on that iBook... http://www.applele.com/pict_05ibookmini_r01.html
i dont like the fact that the CD drive is external... apple can fit it in though lol
actually, i wouldn't mind external cd drive(superdriver would be prefer
), cos less weight and more mobilitly, i don't think ppl are using there cd-rom on daily bases. So right now we have a few options to speculate about for the new ibooks assuming they will be released and assuming they are 999 and 1299 as thinksecret has claimed.
Option 1: No form factor change. Speed bumps only. Superdrive becomes only a BTO option. 12"= 999 and 14" =1299
Option 2: Widescreen iBooks... but only one size available, perhaps 13"?. 999 for combo drive. 1299 for superdrive.
Option 3: Widescreen iBooks... two sizes. Superdrive is only BTO. again 999 for smaller. 1299 for larger.
I think everyone has already posted their own predictions for spec updates. So which option of form factor do u guys think is most likely?
Option 1: No form factor change. Speed bumps only. Superdrive becomes only a BTO option. 12"= 999 and 14" =1299
Option 2: Widescreen iBooks... but only one size available, perhaps 13"?. 999 for combo drive. 1299 for superdrive.
Option 3: Widescreen iBooks... two sizes. Superdrive is only BTO. again 999 for smaller. 1299 for larger.
I think everyone has already posted their own predictions for spec updates. So which option of form factor do u guys think is most likely?
woolfgang said:
BGil is not "talking s%%%" as you so eloquently put it, he is raising valid points and engaging in an unbiased open discussion, citing pros and cons of both PC and Mac platforms, which in my opinion is excellent to see. It's always good to hear all viewpoints on a subject and it also helps keep the Mac Zealots in check.
BGil, once again, thanks for the detailed response, I appreciate it.
BGil said:
This is why I like it as well. The software is still fairly basic and simple, yet powerful in its own respect, and good enough and easy enough to use for Joe user.
BGil said:
Fair enough. The only pseudo-pro work I do is with Sound Studio to edit audio files, so I can totally appreciate that for a Pro user, those apps simply dont cut it that goes without saying.
BGil said:
Mail just works for me. Thats all I need it to do, so it suits the purpose...
BGil said:
Agree with you here. I have Office v.X on my Mac and get by with Excel and Word. I cannot say Im a fan of iWork whatsoever, they need to do some serious iWork to the suite before Id think about buying it.
BGil said:
Good insight actually, I never really thought of all the Windows-equivalent apps which you can use for free as well which are comparable to the Mac versions.
BGil said:
Impressive.
BGil said:
Fair enough. And I appreciate that as you are obviously a Pro user, and have more demanding needs from your software than, lets say, a granny who just wants to surf, check e-mail, look at digital photos and listen to some tunes. Or me for instance, as I dont use any of those Pro apps myself. If I did, I would probably be (and have every right to be) more demanding and selective when it comes to the software situation with the respective platforms.
These are all very valid points when it comes to software, but another component, and a more major one in my opinion, is the OS itself, which you never really commented on. I put a lot of weight into the fact that, to me, OS X is superior to Windows (subjective statement of course, I realize, nonetheless the users experience/perception is all that matters in most cases) which is a big advantage to me in using a Mac over a Windows PC. I have no issues per se with Windows, as it runs fine for me on my work PC (XP Pro) and my server at home (Win2k3 Enterprise) so I am definitely not one of the many Window smashers or anti-MS fanatics you sometimes see on the Forums here who blindly hate MS just cuz, but I do simply find OS X to be superior to Windows. Plain and simple. Ease of use, security (UNIX), no viruses/spyware and no need for software to block these things, stability, responsiveness, no registry, simple... I could go on...
Any thoughts specifically pertaining to the OS?
Anyone heard news in regards to powerbook updates? I recall a few pages back someone posted saying he had ordered a PBook, it was defective, and he mailed it back. Apple then emailed him saying they were shipping him a replacement. However, the replacement was being delayed because "Apple is constantly innovating and thus renewing its product line. One of these innovations happens to affect the product in question, therefore your shipping delay." I doubt I got it even close to word for word, but that was the essence of what they were saying...basically, "We can't ship you a replacement until the new powerbooks are released." Which also implys the update will be soon. Im surprised no one commented on this when it was originally posted.
I doubt Im going to go with an iBook, unless they have truly remarkable specs, which is why Im enquiring about the Pbook. The desire for one is turning more and more into a need as the days go on. I really cant hold out much longer, but would hate to get one and then two weeks later see an update. I could certainly use the extra speed aforded by a faster bus and processor (7448)...
I doubt Im going to go with an iBook, unless they have truly remarkable specs, which is why Im enquiring about the Pbook. The desire for one is turning more and more into a need as the days go on. I really cant hold out much longer, but would hate to get one and then two weeks later see an update. I could certainly use the extra speed aforded by a faster bus and processor (7448)...
$MacUser$ said:
That is excactly my plan. If the iBook updates don't impress me tomorrow, then I will buy a 12" PowerBook, stock. It doesn't matter to me really if the PBs get updated 2 weeks later, because their current configuration is MORE than enough for my now. I am only 14 and it will be used to take notes and do research in high school. It's sort of a graduation present. It will also be used out of shool to use as a portable and surf the net, maybe some photo editing, watching DVDs and organizing and listening to music. I have a Mac mini 1.42 Ghz right now that is my primary computer, and will remain my primary computer even though the PowerBook will be slightly better than it in both graphics and processor speed.
ph0rce said:that guy kicks some ass... i love the guys work, they all look so cool....
heres the URL to that guys work on that iBook... http://www.applele.com/pict_05ibookmini_r01.html
i dont like the fact that the CD drive is external... apple can fit it in though lol
Maybe somebody already mentioned this but is that an intel inside sticker on that widescreen mini iBook picture?
Squire
Maybe Jobs will announce the new consumer line tonight while announcing the iPhone! I'm looking forward to the next 18 hrs very much.
To the guys who are waiting to buy PBs in the next few days. What do the iBooks need to be updated with for them to impress? In your opinion what makes the 12"pbs that much more impressive, what programs are you using? I'm curious cause I'm on the fence right now as well and need some advice and input
To the guys who are waiting to buy PBs in the next few days. What do the iBooks need to be updated with for them to impress? In your opinion what makes the 12"pbs that much more impressive, what programs are you using? I'm curious cause I'm on the fence right now as well and need some advice and input
Closed-lid operation with 100% of the VRAM dedicated to the external display is a huge advantage the PowerBook has over the iBook. I connect my 12" PB to a 23" Cinema Display HD all the time.TaKashMoney said:
TaKashMoney said:
For me, (speaking of the 12" PB) I like the fact that I can just buy the stock model, without having to perform any upgrades on it. It has Core Image support because of the video card, audio in, better speakers (in my opinion), scrolling trackpad, faster processor, includes BT 2.0, sleeker design (in my opinion), hard drive drop sensor, and sturdier keyboard (in my opinion). Now that I think aobut it, the 12" iBook will have to be a lot cheaper than the 12" PB, and have almost the same specs, minus maybe the processor. And, I really don't think it will be close to the PB AND much cheaper, so as of now it looks like 12" PB for me. But, we'll wait and see. Who knows what's in store for us tomorrow. But, according to what the likely updated to the iBook will be, it's looking a lot like PowerBook for me!!
On note of the 12" powerbook, the one reason I would never considor the current 12" iBook is because there is NO option for a superdrive either standard or BTO. Although the 1500 (after student discount) dollar 12" powerbook comes equipped with everything I'd want although I'd probably bump up the ram to 768 for 50 more bucks or whatever... I know you may be able to install a superdrive on the 12" iBook yourself by buying one from some other site and etc. etc. etc. but I rather just have apple do it, be under warrenty, and who cares if its 90 dollars more for BTO - In my opinion a super drive is worth it. I use it all the time to back up my computer, transfer files, and make slideshows/etc. in iDVD (from iMovie and iPhoto). So that is the one MAJOR thing the iBook doesn't offer. As mentioned before, slower CPU worse GPU and slower HD (I think the Powerbook you can upgrade to a 5400 right?) motion sensor etc. etc. etc. are many other reasons. For ALL those reasons, there is some room for growth in the iBook and if it grew just enough with BTO available to my liking, then I could probably settle for the iBook and save a few hundred dollars (and snag a free iPod mini in the process )
Edit: Although the free iPod Mini also applies to the 12" powerbook keep in mind... And only doesn't apply to the CD-Rom version of hte iBook found in the Education Store for $900 (rip off you ask me, just pay 50 more for the combo drive and free iPod mini!)
)Edit: Although the free iPod Mini also applies to the 12" powerbook keep in mind... And only doesn't apply to the CD-Rom version of hte iBook found in the Education Store for $900 (rip off you ask me, just pay 50 more for the combo drive and free iPod mini!)
finalcoolman said:
No, a lot will happen. You will certainly see faster processors. You very well may see larger/faster hard drives and/or more/faster RAM. There's a decent chance you will see a CI capable video card (that's what I want), possibly even with 64 MB VRAM. You might even see an entirely new, widescreen enclosure (I'd like that, but I'm not *that* optimistic). Things are being updated - that is why it's called an "update."
I don't think you will see DVI, because they consider that to be a "Pro" feature. I also don't think you will see BT, because they need to differentiate wrt the Powerbooks. However, your point about the iMac shipping with BT is well taken (especially since the PowerMacs don't ship with BT standard!). So if we are lucky we will see BT standard (which will make redundant the BT dongle I just ordered, but that's okay, I'll just use it for my G5!).
If you are demanding everything on the list above, you're not asking Apple for an update - you're asking them to make it into a Powerbook. That's unrealistic at the iBook price point. And it's not just Apple. For example, the Dell Inspiron 700m comes in at a *higher* price point than the iBook, but it doesn't include Bluetooth, DVI, or scrolling trackpad, and it has a paltry 0 MB of VRAM. Heck, it doesn't even include internal BT as an option. Only thing on that list it has is built in AE equivalent and widescreen. My point is not to get into a flame-war about how much does/does not 700m suck. Rather, it is simply to point out that the full list of options you are asking for is *not* generally available at the iBook's price point. Some day it will be, but not today. That's just how the market is right now.
Rootman said:
You've got to be kidding. I will bet anyone here any amount of money this evening that the iBooks will not get Intel CPUs tomorrow.
Plecky said:(I think the Powerbook you can upgrade to a 5400 right?) motion sensor etc. etc. etc. are many other reasons. For ALL those reasons, there is some room for growth in the iBook and if it grew just enough with BTO available to my liking, then I could probably settle for the iBook and save a few hundred dollars (and snag a free iPod mini in the process
Powerbooks come with 5400 rpm drive stock. Upgrade is to larger sizes.
animefan_1 said:
It's definitely been at 9 AM Eastern Time recently. Just take a look at the buyer's guide...you can click on the original macrumors article for each product announcement, and it's generally got a posting time of like 9:10 am EST or 8:50 am EST, etc.
I'm looking at getting a Mac mini, and was wondering if you guys know what kind of hard drives they use in them. Are they notebook (2.5"), or regular (3.5") drives? 4200 or 5400 RPM?
I've looked around and I read conflicting reports. Would I get better disk performance just getting an eMac?
I've looked around and I read conflicting reports. Would I get better disk performance just getting an eMac?