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New iBook Radeon 9550 Benchmarks
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TheSisko said:
🙄 @ you. Check your math. Figure the GPU is 15% more powerful on average, and the CPU is 10.8% faster (1.33/1.2 - 1.0 = 10.8%). 115% * 110.8% = 127.42%, which is within my 25-30% range that I specified. That's a very reasonable estimate for gaming performance.
Apple updated its core image webpage couple days ago and ATI Radeon 9550 is now on the list 😉eeboarder said:
But the interesting thing is that, on the Tech Specs chart of iBook, the GPU is called ATI Mobility Radeon 9550. That kinda annoys me because PBs' GPU is mentioned without ommiting the Mobility part of it on the core image supported cards list. On the other hand, ATI Radeon 9550 is not used on any other apple computer, which means it can only be the GPU that is used in iBooks.
TheSisko said:
We're talking about 480p which is 852x480, hardly HD. It's barely better than DVD resolution.
I'd like to see the comparison between 12" pb and 14" ibooks. I personally think the 14" ibooks would be faster graphically...9550 is a much better card.
MacSA
macrumors 68000
Daveway said:
I agree, it's clear that instead of offering updated hardware, such as a faster processor and better GPU, Apple decided to put in the Airport/Bluetooth. Airport should be standard on laptops, but not on desktops. And Bluetooth is an expensive luxury when you have to by the bluetooth keyboard/mouse as well.
inkswamp
macrumors 68030
Disgusted
You know, I'm about to abandon sites like this as well as AppleInsider because the people posting in the forums seem to pull so many "facts" completely out of their ass. I was a little bummed out because I had been planning to buy an iBook but so many people here and on AI's forums were griping that the video card did not support Core Image and Video which is something that I wanted. I wish people would post to these places ONLY when they know what they're talking about. 😡
On the other hand, cool... now I'm sure I'm going to buy one. 😀
You know, I'm about to abandon sites like this as well as AppleInsider because the people posting in the forums seem to pull so many "facts" completely out of their ass. I was a little bummed out because I had been planning to buy an iBook but so many people here and on AI's forums were griping that the video card did not support Core Image and Video which is something that I wanted. I wish people would post to these places ONLY when they know what they're talking about. 😡
On the other hand, cool... now I'm sure I'm going to buy one. 😀
SpaceMagic
macrumors 68000
I can't believe, after reading the posts, that no one has mentioned the fact that the machine XLR8 was using was clocked at 1.2Ghz.. this is so odd? Or can some kinda CHUD tools do this?
Other than that, i do wish they made the graphics 64mbit. I'm still gunna buy one though.
Other than that, i do wish they made the graphics 64mbit. I'm still gunna buy one though.
MacSA said:
i can see their logic in bluetooth standard
u need a keyboard..now that bluetooth is standard 90% of the people who buy em will also buy an apple bluetooth mouse/keyboard. It was more of a "how can we make more $" scheme then a "lets make it better for the consumer" scheme.
This makes no sense
You can't just multiply speed increases. It's like saying: "this computer has a 10% faster bus, 10% faster CPU, 10% faster GPU, 10% faster Altivec, and 10% faster hard drive. That makes it 110%*110%*110%*110%*110% faster=1.6x faster."
wrburns said:
You can't just multiply speed increases. It's like saying: "this computer has a 10% faster bus, 10% faster CPU, 10% faster GPU, 10% faster Altivec, and 10% faster hard drive. That makes it 110%*110%*110%*110%*110% faster=1.6x faster."
CoreImage my @$$
I just got back from the Apple Store and played with the new iBooks - NO RIPPLE EFFECT!!! WTF?!1
I just got back from the Apple Store and played with the new iBooks - NO RIPPLE EFFECT!!! WTF?!1
StevieStets said:
Really? Did you try click on the apple logo and check the machine configuration? For old iBook and mac mini, the CoreImage information is "not supported" or "false". Also, make sure the laptop is the new version. I went to an apple store and I am told that the laptop was new. When I checked the configuration myself, I found that the laptop was using the old graphics card.
remingtonhill
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From the Apple iBook website:
>"That’s because Apple engineers equipped the new iBook G4 with a powerful, professional-level graphics processor. Using an ATI Radeon 9550 graphics processor with 32 megabytes of dedicated DDR SDRAM and AGP 4X, the iBook G4 delivers blistering 2D, 3D and multimedia graphics performance for today’s most demanding games and applications."<
Professional-level Graphics processor? WTF?
Blistering 3d and Multimedia Graphics Performance?
Sounds like such claims like "Most Powerful Computer in the WORLD!!"
And the apple Benchmarks showing the G4 is faster then all P-IVs.
Who else is tired of this BS?? Apple has proved to be less then credible.
>"That’s because Apple engineers equipped the new iBook G4 with a powerful, professional-level graphics processor. Using an ATI Radeon 9550 graphics processor with 32 megabytes of dedicated DDR SDRAM and AGP 4X, the iBook G4 delivers blistering 2D, 3D and multimedia graphics performance for today’s most demanding games and applications."<
Professional-level Graphics processor? WTF?
Blistering 3d and Multimedia Graphics Performance?
Sounds like such claims like "Most Powerful Computer in the WORLD!!"
And the apple Benchmarks showing the G4 is faster then all P-IVs.
Who else is tired of this BS?? Apple has proved to be less then credible.
Provided QuickTime is the only application running, 480p plays at between 20 and 24 fps on my 800MHz iMac with a 32MB GeForce 2MX and 768MB of RAM. I haven't tested any 480p videos on the new Mac minis or iBooks, but based on the fact they run ok on my three and a half year old Mac with far lower specs I would say they should run fine on all of Apple's current Macs. 🙂
wrburns said:
Sorry, I somehow mistakenly calculated the old iBook was at 1.25Ghz.
ANYWAY:
Yes, because of course, if the faster GPU increases performance 10% in one of the most GPU-intensive task available (Quake3), then it should increase performance 15% in other, less GPU-intensive task. Right.
Yeah, and as everyone know, gaming performance scales completely linearly with CPU-speed 🙄
Anyway, assuming 10% CPU increase = 5% real increase (a high estimate), means mostly GPU-bound gaming (like Quake3) performance increases 15%, while CPU-bound games increase less.
EDIT: Also note that Q3 is a very old game now that almost scales linearly with GPU core, newer games put much more stress on the memory-bandwith of the GFC + almost always require more than 32MB for their textures, meaning the 9550 will be bottlenecked by these variables (specially the 64-bit bus) and offer even less performance improvement in newer games.
guez said:
Exactly. I would say that machine would on average be, slightly LESS than 10% faster. 🙂
bodeh6
macrumors 6502a
StevieStets said:
It does have Core Image. You were just looking at the old one.
Look at Post 59 in this thread.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/140373/
Somebody took a screen shot of the ripple effect on the new iBook.
remingtonhill said:
Actually, now the $1000 iBook's GPU is now the same chip as the $3000 Powermac, just with slower core and memory clocks and less vram. And the PM has a professional-level graphics processor, right? 🙄
Come on Apple, give us some decent graphics cards *standard*, please!!
CmdrLaForge
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supergod said:
Attn: they compared both cards on a 1.2GHz system. Hence the new iBook is up to 1.42 GHz you should see a much better performance then 10%.
Cheers
CmdrLaForge
macrumors 601
tomvos
macrumors 6502
supergod said:
The nForce is a logic board chipset and no stand alone product. BTW the nForce is far from being a pro chipset. It's based on shared memory technology.
nVidia just release their pro version of the 7800 with dual link. I guess, we will see this card soon in the Power Mac line.
Most pro card on the pc (firegl, quadro) are nearly the same like the consumer cards. The main difference are the device drivers. They are optimized for certain pro apps. So comparing graphic cards in the professional sector without looking at the drivers is like comparing apples to oranges.