New iBook Radeon 9550 Benchmarks

[TheSisko]

I think you're misunderstanding the abilities on CoreImage. It's not just ripple in Dashboard, but the acceleration of the entire GUI! (moving windows, expose, resizing windows, Dock magnification etc)

Yeah, except all that is Quartz Extreme and has nothing to do with Core Image.

 

[Kelvin]

I think you're misunderstanding the abilities on CoreImage. It's not just ripple in Dashboard, but the acceleration of the entire GUI! (moving windows, expose, resizing windows, Dock magnification etc)

WRONG.

2D GUI hardware accleration in Mac OS X is two things:
1) Quartz Extreme - using the GPU/VRAM to composite/store onscreen window fragments
2) Quartz 2D Extreme - using the GPU's shaders to render resolution independent 2D primitives (which happens to be buggy, unfixed, and undeployed in Tiger as of current).

CoreImage definitely is just the effects like the ripple in Dashboard. The Quartz Compositor (which happens to be highly improved/tuned in Tiger) is still the primary hunk of software that accelerates the GUI.

 

[TheSisko]

WRONG.

2D GUI hardware accleration in Mac OS X is two things:
1) Quartz Extreme - using the GPU/VRAM to composite/store onscreen window fragments
2) Quartz 2D Extreme - using the GPU's shaders to render resolution independent 2D primitives (which happens to be buggy, unfixed, and undeployed in Tiger as of current).

CoreImage definitely is just the effects like the ripple in Dashboard. The Quartz Compositor (which happens to be highly improved/tuned in Tiger) is still the primary hunk of software that accelerates the GUI.

Didn't I just say that?

 

[mcarnes]

Didn't I just say that?

Yes but yours didn't start with

WRONG

You must first humiliate your opponent into submission so he doesn't post a rebuttal.

 

[switchr92]

From the Apple iBook website:

>"That’s because Apple engineers equipped the new iBook G4 with a powerful, professional-level graphics processor. Using an ATI Radeon 9550 graphics processor with 32 megabytes of dedicated DDR SDRAM and AGP 4X, the iBook G4 delivers blistering 2D, 3D and multimedia graphics performance for today’s most demanding games and applications."<

Professional-level Graphics processor? WTF?

Blistering 3d and Multimedia Graphics Performance?

Sounds like such claims like "Most Powerful Computer in the WORLD!!"

And the apple Benchmarks showing the G4 is faster then all P-IVs.

Who else is tired of this BS?? Apple has proved to be less then credible.

Dude, what do you want them to say, "The graphic card in this new iBook is actually very weak, and if you though anything at it that demands 3D effects, you will be very disappointed. We think that you should buy it anyway, if only because we want your money, and we want it bad." Of course there going to write how great it is, how powerful it is, how it has blistering preformance. If you go to the apple store and ask any employee if you can game on the iBook, they will tell you probably not, if its 3D. They aren't trying to misslead you, just good marketing.
Oh yeah, and the new iBook DEFINATELY supports core image. I'm on summer vacation, and I try to go to a different apple workshop each week, so by the end of the summer, I'll be much more mac savvy. The day after the new iBooks were announced I was playing around on an iBook, when I opened dashboard and-GASP-no ripples. Then I checked under apple, about this mac, and it was the old 1.2 GHz 12". A week later I checked again and it was finally the new version and there were ripples I say, ripples.

 

[topicolo]

Yes but yours didn't start with

WRONG

You must first humiliate your opponent into submission so he doesn't post a rebuttal.

LOL 😀

 

[SpaceMagic]

God, miss u guys.. lol.

Currently in week 2 of eastern euro trip... in croatia ciao till the 18th

 

[avkills]

Who buys iBooks expecting stellar gaming and 3D performance anyway?

I thought these things were for students going to school and writing reports and ****. 😉

If you want to play games and have it be a Mac, then the only choice you really have is the fastest G5 tower you can afford and then slapping a X800 or a 6800 in it, then pray to the OpenGL Gods that Apple will keep improving GL performance.

-mark

 

[Disco Dan]

A** Pulling and the FireGl X3

You know, I'm about to abandon sites like this as well as AppleInsider because the people posting in the forums seem to pull so many "facts" completely out of their ass. I was a little bummed out because I had been planning to buy an iBook but so many people here and on AI's forums were griping that the video card did not support Core Image and Video which is something that I wanted. I wish people would post to these places ONLY when they know what they're talking about. 😡 😀

YES !!!! If only this could be enforced !!!!

For instance, take the following from Supergod, earlier in this thread:

"For ATI, the FireGL3D is their pro card. It is very different from the X800XT."

Where did this "god" get this info? As inkswamp guessed, he PULLED IT FROM HIS ASS !!!!! The FireGl X3 is in fact EXACTLY like a X800 XT. It is in fact an X800. How do I know? I'm using one in my G5 now, the very same one tested at Barefeats.com. ("FireGl X3 converted to X800" is article title, or something quite similar) The Mac X800 was developed on the Pro version of X800, there is no denying this.

There is also no denying that we are woefully behind with many of our graphics cards. There are MUCH BETTER mobile GPUs than the warmed over 9600 in the Powerbook G4.

If the 9550 in the iBook is in fact 64 bit, this is even sadder.The 9600 in a 128 bit config was a decent mid-range card, A YEAR AGO !!!!!!

I don't know what the answer is, we pay more for less. And Uncle Steve tells us to close our eyes and feel the lovely Warm Spring Rain. He encourages us to join him in our love of this "blistering fast" rain and let it's warmth soak through to our very bones. And then he zips up and walks off with our money.