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This is gonna be awesome if the rumors are true- they are a little too good to be true in the first place. I'm shopping for a laptop and I'm really considering going OS X even though I sold my iBook a month after I got it early last year...errr 2004 I mean.
 
~Shard~ said:
You really believe the PowerBooks will not be updated until Merom is available late in 2006? That's an awful long time without an upgrade, especially considering the iBooks will definitely be Intel at that time. I just don't see it happening. If the iBooks do indeed go Intel first, then it will be with the dual core Yonahs, which would mean that the PowerBooks would probably get the "performance edition" which will be released a short time afterwards. I could see that happening. Either that, or the PowerBooks gets updated first with the dual core Yonahs and the iBooks follow a few months afterwards when the single core versions are available. :cool:


Single core Yonahs would be a performance down grade considering most of the software will run in emulation mode until FAT binaries are released. The minimum conifguration would be a dual core for the iBooks... And then the PB's with the performance Yonahs.
 
I'm sure this has been mentioned before, but isn't it funny - if you invented a time machine and grabbed your average mac geek from 10 years ago, and showed them this news, they'd be shocked! Mac's are going to be almost unrecognisable from their predecessors... Not only is Mac OS X a total departure from anything they would have seen before, but Intel processors?!

Sorry, this just occurred to me. I shall be quiet.
 
iBooks in January?

Ok, this is totally random and a question that I'm sure everyone as been discussing on this thread but I am too lazy to look to see, so.... XD Does everyone think that there will be probably be Intel iBooks in January at MWSF? Is that looking like what will happen? B/c I really hope so... and I think it will happen... just wanting everyone else's thoughts. :cool: :rolleyes: :)
 
b0x said:
Single core Yonahs would be a performance down grade considering most of the software will run in emulation mode until FAT binaries are released. The minimum conifguration would be a dual core for the iBooks... And then the PB's with the performance Yonahs.

Single core Yonahs won't be out for a few months, giving third parties time to ship their fat binaries.

Dual-core Yonahs would put an iBook into PowerBook price territory; NEC announced a dual-core Yonah laptop, with a list price of $1999 - and apart from the dual-core CPU, the specs were pretty mediocre. There's no way that'd work for a product line that really needs to start at $999 or ideally $749.

There's really no reason to wait, even with the initial lack of fat binaries. The main thing that would accelerate the release of the fat binaries would be for Apple to ship production Intel machines. A fair number of customers would buy regardless, because they do development, or Java, or Unix stuff, or whatever.

People who need a fat binary of Photoshop are going to be waiting regardless of whether Apple has products in the stores. Apple's better off selling something to those customers who *can* buy now, rather than waiting for numerous third parties over which they have no control. And the customers who wait would benefit because they could buy machines after any first-release kinks get ironed out.

I wouldn't be surprised to see Jobs announce dual-core Powerbooks *this* week at CES, rather than waiting until next week. There'd be big advantages in demoing a dual-core OS X powerbook at CES in front of a crowd of potential corporate IT switchers, instead of waiting to wow the faithful next week.

Or, considering Intel's interest in media convergence, perhaps Jobs will demo a Yonah mini media center at CES.
 
Val-kyrie said:
I disagree. I think the iBook will get the Yonah (=Duo Core) first only because the low voltage will be ready first. The PBs will also be announced at MWSF but will not ship until the first week of Feb., when the higher voltage "performance" processors will be released. Certainly, the PBs will receive Merom when it is ready later in 2006, the only question will be when the iBooks will transition--probably with the release of Leopard or shortly thereafter.

Dual core is probably too expensive for iBooks. NEC's dual-core Yonah line is supposed to start around $2k, but iBooks have to start at $999 if not lower.
 
steeldrivingjon said:
Dual core is probably too expensive for iBooks. NEC's dual-core Yonah line is supposed to start around $2k, but iBooks have to start at $999 if not lower.

What if Apple have secured a better price than NEC for exclusivity and because of the long term single brand deal?
 
From Blizzards World of Warcraft Spec page:

Mac® OS X 10.3.9:
933 MHz or higher G4, or G5, or Intel processor
512 MB RAM or higher; DDR RAM recommended
ATI or NVIDIA® video hardware with 32 MB VRAM or more
6.0 GB available HD space
4x CD-Rom drive
56k or better Internet connection


They're coming people, they're coming soon!
 
ibook and powerbook are old concepts..

Why everybody thinks that Apple will stick to the ibook/powerbook dualism for their laptops!?!?
I think that they will merge the 2 books in one new portable line, (maybe called "UltraBooks"), with 2 different secreen sizes, -13.3 widescreen and 15.4 widesceen- with intel "Duo-Cores" "leap ahead" in them, with different video cards and hard disk options. They will have all a minumum standard that is 512 ram, DVD-RW DL, Airport Ext, Bluetooth 2.0, 3 USBs and 1 firewire, digital audio and video in and out.

13.3 widescreen is small enough to be compared to the actual 12inch size,
15.4 for more space, and no need for a 17inches. (if you want buy a UltraBooks and a cinema display on your desk.)

Ah sorry I forgot to tell you that this is just my dream........:) :D
 
What about eMacs?

I was wondering about eMacs. Surely they are in need of an update this year. Is Steve going to toss the CRT?
 
aristobrat said:
I thought that Apple stopped selling eMacs, except to educational places?
They did.

Maybe their current supply would only last to the intel switch if they limited who could buy it, and soon we'll see a whole new eMac, only it will have Intel inside and look way better.
Who knows? :confused:
 
I ordered a customized Mac mini early last week from the Apple Store Online for my brother's upcoming birthday (Jan. 7). I received an email today telling me that my order has been cancelled due to an unexpected delay. :eek: Something is happening to the Mac mini's at MacWorld SF. :)

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Unfortunately, the Apple Store failed to cancel the free printer (after rebate), extra power supply and discounted office (after rebate). So now I have a bunch of accessories shipping out today that I have to print off labels and return as soon as I receive them. :eek: I asked if I could just keep them and order a new Mac mini later, however they said I couldn't because you must have the printer and Office on the same receipt as your computer. :mad:

I'm sure the FedEx guy is going to love me. I'm just going to meet him at the door with a bunch of return labels. Haha.
 
joshuawaire said:
I ordered a customized Mac mini early last week from the Apple Store Online for my brother's upcoming birthday (Jan. 7). I received an email today telling me that my order has been cancelled due to an unexpected delay. :eek: Something is happening to the Mac mini's at MacWorld SF. :)

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Unfortunately, the Apple Store failed to cancel the free printer (after rebate), extra power supply and discounted office (after rebate). So now I have a bunch of accessories shipping out today that I have to print off labels and return as soon as I receive them. :eek: I asked if I could just keep them and order a new Mac mini later, however they said I couldn't because you must have the printer and Office on the same receipt as your computer. :mad:

I'm sure the FedEx guy is going to love me. I'm just going to meet him at the door with a bunch of return labels. Haha.
Funny that the estimated ship time is still 1-2 days, I guess Apple is trying to hide it. :confused:

Anyways, this is good to hear. :)
 
EricNau said:
Funny that the estimated ship time is still 1-2 days, I guess Apple is trying to hide it. :confused:

Anyways, this is good to hear. :)

Well this was customized with a 100GB hard drive, 56k modem and 1GB of ram. Maybe a part is just backordered? But, given the rumors—I would say there is good chance it was Macworld related.
 
joshuawaire said:
Well this was customized with a 100GB hard drive, 56k modem and 1GB of ram. Maybe a part is just backordered? But, given the rumors—I would say there is good chance it was Macworld related.
Even if it was just a part that was backordered, it still leads me to believe that they must be updating the mini, otherwise they would have just waited for that part to come in. For instance, if it was the 100GB HDD that was backordered, they are probably using a different HDD in the new mini. Therefore, Apple doesn't want to order any more of the current HDD.
 
Yes, I agree. I believe the week before WWDC they cancelled all the PowerMac G4 orders in anticipation of the PowerMac G5 announcement. This is sort of the same thing—where the product is going to get something more than just a speed bump. Otherwise, they would have just let me keep my order, and shipped the speed bumped mini when it became available.

Needless to say, I'm excited about Macworld now.
 
joshuawaire said:
Yes, I agree. I believe the week before WWDC they cancelled all the PowerMac G4 orders in anticipation of the PowerMac G5 announcement. This is sort of the same thing—where the product is going to get something more than just a speed bump. Otherwise, they would have just let me keep my order, and shipped the speed bumped mini when it became available.

Needless to say, I'm excited about Macworld now.
Yes, for Apple to actually cancel your order, it means they must have been out (of either the computer or a BTO part), and they don't plan on getting any more. This was money that you were willing to spend, Apple would gladly take it if they could have. Something is definitely going on.

I'm excited too. :)
 
ok quick question:

If there is a new mini out soon, then the stock of old mac minis goes where exactly? Land fill site in India or recycled or what?
 
I'm excited as well, I may pick up something depending on what they bring out!
 
rossoUK said:
ok quick question:

If there is a new mini out soon, then the stock of old mac minis goes where exactly? Land fill site in India or recycled or what?
At places such as CompUSA, they will just be sold (so be careful on which mini you are buying).

At Apple the current stock of Mac Mini's will be kept for AppleCare reasons, and may also be sold as refurbs.

But Apple may not have as many as you think, in most cases Apple will cut down production before an update. (As joshuawaire pointed out, in some cases you can't buy the Mini anymore.)
 
rossoUK said:
ok quick question:

If there is a new mini out soon, then the stock of old mac minis goes where exactly? Land fill site in India or recycled or what?


They get sold to dealers who fire sale them to customers! At least that's what happens in Australia. Apple have a bidding process and dealer consortiums bid for the package, the winner can sell the machines at a vastly discounted price.
 
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