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Re: Re: At last!

Originally posted by Pedro Estarque
Latino,
Dual display is very important for me, but I was afraid that this hack could harm the ibook in some way. I'm even considering buying 12" powerbook mostly because of that ( Altivec and Aluminum case are also nice of course).
Have you tested it? I keep thinking that if it could be done with no problem at all, then why wouldn't apple allow us to?
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the hack worked fine on my ibook the 800mhz nov 6 model. i've had nothing but enjoyment from the large working space. I think you guys are overlooking the simplicity of this mod. The hardware supports it and if you have a problem all you need to do is zap your pram and its gone. I really don't think the monitor spanning thing shoudl be an issue when decided between the machines. I know the pb has a better vid card but the ibook's works well.
 
Originally posted by ericthemacpope
hey, my brother is going to college next year and we are getting him a portable. he is majoring in film and music, should we get him a 12 inch powerbook, or the updated ibook 14 inch? he wants a to hook up a an old portable monitor at his dorm. which one?
eric
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Unless he'll be content with simply mirroring the display, you should get him the 12" Powerbook. He'll probably appreciate the G4 too
 
well, he won't know what to choose, he is a musician, he doesn't know much about computers, he likes things to work. lol, alright I'll see what likes more.
eric
 
Impressive.

Another 100Mhz increase in only 6 months!

At this rate, the ibooks will reach 2Ghz in about 5 and a half years. Whoopie!

*yawn*
 
it ain't quite enough .....

The iBook's dent-proof/warp-free tough outer shell and rubber-mounted hard-drives have made them the most rugged of Macs.

However, without built-in Bluetooth and Airport Extreme it's users will remain crawling foot-soldiers rather than speedy road-warriors.

C'mon Apple !! Put in these essentials, at least in the fastest models. This was going to be the Year of the Laptop, not Craptop.
 
well from what ive read and people ive talked to the new ibooks dont boot into 9, any one hear beg to differ who have purchased.

iJon
 
Originally posted by iJon
well from what ive read and people ive talked to the new ibooks dont boot into 9, any one hear beg to differ who have purchased.

iJon
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They boot into OS 9 just fine and come with the same restore discs that the November version did except now with 10.2.4 instead of 10.2.1. I say this because I was hoping to find Apple replace the four iBook restore discs with one DVD like they have with the new PBooks.


No iLife but Office X demo is now installed.
 
Originally posted by MrMistyFreeze
They boot into OS 9 just fine and come with the same restore discs that the November version did except now with 10.2.4 instead of 10.2.1. No iLife but Office X demo is now installed.
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thanks for the confirmation,just wanted to make sure from someone who has bought one. thats odd since the boxes say just os x

iJon
 
Originally posted by MrMistyFreeze
I say this because I was hoping to find Apple replace the four iBook restore discs with one DVD like they have with the new PBooks.
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Unlikely as long as the low-end model still has a cdrom. Mind you, I was hoping for at least a dvd reader on all models.
 
They have changed the case of the iBook back to the opaque white shell, much like the low-end 700MHz CD-ROM model from before the update, correct? Its uglier, but is it a good change or a bad change? :confused:
 
Originally posted by Abstract
They have changed the case of the iBook back to the opaque white shell, much like the low-end 700MHz CD-ROM model from before the update, correct? Its uglier, but is it a good change or a bad change? :confused:
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I wouldn't necessarily say it's bad but it makes the 12" iBook look a lot cheaper.

Considering Apple is likely saving considerable money by not painting the interior and exterior casing, it would be nice to see them pass the savings along to their customers.
 
Originally posted by bradz_id
I am so annoyed there is no AirPort Extreme. Everyone go here to sign a petition for it. http://www.petitiononline.com/ibookxtr/
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give up, why do you care so much, airport extreme isnt much better than regular airport, these petitions are the dumbest things people can do, i thought people had stopped the petetions on this site, get a powerbook if you want airport extreme.

iJon
 
Re: Re: There was an increase in L2 cache

Originally posted by MrMistyFreeze
My mistake, the 300-466MHz iBooks have 512K L2 cache. The 500-600MHz before May 2002 have 256K L2 cache. The 600-900MHz iBooks after May 2002 have 512K L2 cache again! I have only owned the the first and the latter and didn't realize it had changed in the middle.

In any case, cache, despite its small size is important. Doubling the cache will likely provide signficant performance gains. I know that the lack of L3 cache in the G4 seriously hinders performance.
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Okay this whole deal on the L2 cache on the G3 is bothering me, because there is some misunderstanding...

The orginal iBooks and iMacs for that matter, did have 512K L2 cache, the BIG difference is that this was "backside cache" which runs slower then the processor. It will net about 1/2 of true speed, depending on the Mhz of the processor.

The next series of G3's 750cx, had 256K of L2 "on-chip" cache running at full processor speed, the same as the current G4's have. The reason the cache was reduced from 512K to 256K is because going to am "on-chip" arrangement actually offered more speed with less memory.

The current G3 (750fx) is 512K "on-chip" cache, running at full processor speed, "800 or 900Mhz" This is very fast and should help performance.

If I am wrong about this...please correct me since I am not an expert. I know my iMac (G3 750) has 512K "backside" cache and my iBook (G3 750cx) has 256K "on-chip" I think "on-chip" design is much better and much faster. Someone who knows more about this can comment...
 
About Etreme and metal ....

Originally posted by iJon
give up, why do you care so much, airport extreme isnt much better than regular airport, these petitions are the dumbest things people can do, i thought people had stopped the petetions on this site, get a powerbook if you want airport extreme.

iJon
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One might as well say that Apple's pioneering the 802.11g wi-fi standard is one of the 'dumbest' things it's ever done.

Care to clarify?

Not everyone finds metal-clad laptops exciting; try taking a dented/warped metal-cased laptop to a panel-beating shop and see how far you get. JMHO
 
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