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New iMac G5 Announced

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griz said:
When the iMac was introduced, it had a 233Mhz G3 chip and sold for around $1200. This has an LCD and a lot more speed for the same price. It's an amazing work of art. Speaking of Art. The 20 Inch model would look great on my wall with a frame around it running a screen saver. Now thats art.
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I believe this is called "progress" ;)

However, I do think the new iMac presents a lot more value for money than the previous one, and I too think it will be a hit. It should have had an aluminium enclosure though (I think the white starts to look a bit outdated).
 
DJY said:
I think I'll need to see this in person - before I decide...
...no bluetooth (has to be added)
no video upgrade (as mentioned above)...
No front USB ports...
actuall all the ports seem fairly close together...
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no FW800.
Almost looks like the original spy photos...atleast its thickness is correct.

An Oven door! :)

Too Bad Apple waits for Expos to release these, rather than just pump'em out when the design is done. :(
 
UWF404 said:
Underwhelmed! Will look cluttered with cables coming out the ports on back of screen. Will I be yanking my keyboard and peripherals around everytime I move the screen. :mad:
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Tried to stay up and failed. Made it to 3am EST. Woke up and saw the design. Beautiful! And the hole in the stand is for threading your cables through. I don't see a problem.

I'm impressed!
 
nottsp1 said:
I believe the optical drive is 4x on the iMac, whereas the new PowerMacs get an 8x drive. Some speculate this is becuase of the vertical mounting of the drive, some sort of attenuation is required. Who knows.

Check out the Apple site for pictures of the upgradability. The back pannel somehow detatches, and the RAM is over on the right hand side. Posts indicate that non proprietry memory works fine
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I don't think that it is because it is mounted vertically. I don't believe that there is an 8X slot loading superdrive available yet. If I am wrong, can someone point me to a source?

Hickman
 
Foxer said:
Two words: "consumer market"

We're not all hard core FCP users and most people who buy a Mac will NEVER play Doom 3. They brought out a new machine and lowered the price point. Last night I never dreamed of buying an iMac, becuse I couldn't forget the confiscatory pricing of the Rev B iMacs. These actually seem to be a good buy, although I'll still probably go for a PowerMac, since I WILL be playing Doom 3.
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I know that's the commonly held belief around here, but I'm not sure it's really true (the gaming part). Apple is making a very big song and dance about the iMac G5's gaming performance. Games are mentioned on just about every page of Apple's iMac G5 web site (the 'G5 processor' and 'widescreen graphics' pages have large prominently graphs showing Unreal Tournament 2004 and Halo performance! They are in fact the most prominent display of the iMac G5's performance anywhere on Apple's web site). On the 'design' page, both Doom III and World of Warcraft are explicitly mentioned ("So you’ll be able to play Worlds of Warcraft, Doom III and other fantastic entertainment.").

Apple is going all out on their web site to make sure that potential gamers know that the iMac G5 will be a good gaming machine. Of course more experienced users here will know that equipped with only a 64MB nVidia GeForce FX 5200 Ultra, the reality may not entirely live up to the claim.

I agree with your comments on the pro apps like FCP. A 'consumer' is going to be using iMovie, iDVD and GarageBand, not tools like Final Cut Pro and Logic. But gaming is a very common use for a home computer, and Apple seems to be acknowledging this on their iMac G5 site.

Hence a lot of people's disbelief at the 64MB nVidia FX 5200 I think.
 
Don't Like At All

I agree that this needs to be looked at in person but my first thoughts are

1. It looks like an emac on a new cinema display base
2. White space under the monitor space is way too large.
3. Why didn't they go all silver or all white?

just my thoughts
 
Maxicek said:
Nice price, nice specs, but I dont like the style. I don't think Mr Ive hasn't managed to capture the friendly, approachable styling that put so many G3 iMacs into living rooms around the world.

I'd still like one though, but won't be trading in my PB just yet.
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My feelings are the same. It is hard to imagine this iMac capturing attention when seen in the movies or on TV like the previous iMac did.
 
Yeah, I think it looks a little childish, especially with supersized logo plus the huge chin.
I guess that's why it looks a bit dopey. I wonder if it would've looked better if the screen was positioned in the middle on the white rectangle rather than against the top edge.
The thickness (or thinness depending how you look at it) is great!
The concept of the computer completely integrated into the monitor is an old one.
All other "monitor plus computer on the back" products however have looked like there are really computers cobbled to their backs as an afterthought, turning them into hunchbacks of that Parisian cathedral.
Apple has succeeded pretty well in making a monitor that is also a computer.
Nice. :)
 
DVI connector

The new iMac would be perfect with a DVI-connector. That way you could use it as the display for your PC for instance while playing games and after that put aside de PC-mouse and -keyboard and do your work on the iMac...

Would be a good investment because when you have more money, you could step up to the G5 and still use the 17 or 20 inch flatpanel of the iMac...

That would be awesome. Upgradability builtin :)

I agree that a Radeon 9600 Pro would have been a better choice than the low-life GeForce FX 5200.

I think the new iMac has a very stylish design.

blackTIE
 
Of course not...

jacobj said:
Anyone got any software that can use 64bit that would actually buy this iMac.

Anyway.. the list goes on.. it is CR*P
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OS X is a 32-bit operating system. Nobody has any 64-bit software.

When 64-bit does arrive, the iMac's limit of 2 DIMMs (2 GiB) will make it next to impossible to add enough memory to actually take advantage of 64-bit.

A 2 GiB machine is a 32-bit machine, regardless of the hype.

Putting a 64-bit operating system in a 2 GiB machine is like putting dual exhausts on a lawn mower - in theory it sounds good but in practice it's a waste....
 
New iMac

I'm going to take the liberty of whining about the graphics card too. I think there should be a better one, in the top model at any rate. Perhaps we'll see something like a mobility 9700 in a rev. B?

But that aside, I think it's a great machine, a worthy successor to the iMac line and it seems to have thrown proverbial gasoline on the flames that are Powerbook G5 rumors :D .
 
xarafan said:
The new iMac would be perfect with a DVI-connector. That way you could use it as the display for your PC for instance while playing games and after that put aside de PC-mouse and -keyboard and do your work on the iMac...

Would be a good investment because when you have more money, you could step up to the G5 and still use the 17 or 20 inch flatpanel of the iMac...

That would be awesome. Upgradability builtin :)

I agree that a Radeon 9600 Pro would have been a better choice than the low-life GeForce FX 5200.

I think the new iMac has a very stylish design.

blackTIE
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Insane ... just that! :mad: :confused: :eek:

The attack of the trolls...
 
I really really like the new design.

It is very elegent, slim, simplistic, and stylish. I don't know how many of you are commenting after just looking at the small res images, but open up the big ones and get a true full view. It really looks nice, at high res the big white space on the front and the apple logo really don't look bad. This is exactly what I was hoping for from the new iMac, very clean and less cluttered. I am sure, as was with the displays, that most people who think this is ugly will like it when they see it in person. I personally think it is beautiful.

As for the specs, it's nice to see the consumer machine bumped up to new standards. Yes.. the graphics card is somewhat weak, but to be honest most people that use this computer won't need amazing graphics. If there is one thing I notice when I work with people on computers, it is that only a very limited number of them use the graphics card to the full potential. This graphics card will be fine for almost all users.

Overall very very nice, I really love what Apple has done and I can't wait to see it in the Apple store!
 
snahabed said:
I can't believe some of you don't like the design. I think the new iMac G5 looks HOT.
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I waited wanting to be inspired into buying one. It's not ugly and overall I think it's not bad. But I personally think the old Imac looks better.

So at this point I feel inspired to go make my Imac G4 purchase on Ebay. I'm just not a big fan of all in ones. The G5 Imac is a fine implementation of all in one but it's still cheese. Also, this thing ships mid to late Sept so if I bought one I won't have it till late Sept.The thought that in 05 I'll have a brand new mac with FX5200 is just not appealing.
 
JLS said:
What is it with apple and crap graphics cards... grrr
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Have you ever seen a decent graphics card that didn't have a huge heatsink or massive fan? The top end Nvidias sometimes have an extra slot just for the fan!

It's a design consideration, not a performance consideration. They took the fastest, coolest chip they could find.
 
Nice!!!....but no T 10/100/1000 ethernet?

Why did apple go cheap with the 10/100 ethernet as opposed to 10/100/1000 or gigabit ethernet? No big deal for me, it is sort of strange comming to the realization that the 600 mhz system bus is 200mhz faster than the cpu of my current computer (400mhz iMac DV SE)....my plan is as follows:keep using current computer for the next 3 years, then graduate college, still continue using old computer for following few years while I am attempting to pay back student loans, and all that good stuff.....hmmm maybe by then the G5 while have made it into a powerbook....... :D
 
unsigned said:
Have you ever seen a decent graphics card that didn't have a huge heatsink or massive fan? The top end Nvidias sometimes have an extra slot just for the fan!

It's a design consideration, not a performance consideration. They took the fastest, coolest chip they could find.
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I like Blackadder's suggestion of using a mobility chip in this thing (although minimum It'd have to be the 9800, not 9700, and have 128+ MB). Surely that would beat a 5200 Ultra AND be smaller, use less power, and generate less heat as well?
 
Chaszmyr said:
I too thought it was ugly at first, but it is growing on me, like all Apple products seem to do.

Initial reactions:

Con: No upgradable video card... UGH!

Pro: OMG it's tiny!
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At least they didn't go with ATI... UGH!
 
So even though I am somewhat uninspired by the new design vs. that of my G4 iMac, I do have to admit that getting a 20" display along with a G5 for only $1900 is a pretty sweet deal. I mean the 20" display is $1300 by itself. Sure, I know the technology is somewhat different, but the specs are close enough not to gripe too much... it is an iMac after all.
 
Bad specs for the money. $1300 for a computer with a 64 MB 5200FX and 256 MB RAM? *PITIFUL!*

Earth to Apple: Make a $1000 headless G5 with a decent video chipset (not a 5200FX) and watch your market share grow.

$1300 for a "consumer" computer with these specs is fecal, even with a 17" LCD (whoop-dee-doo, a $400 value!).

-vga4life
 
The graphics card issue.

Hi!

What really bugs me about the graphics card is that if a computer has an integrated LCD (or is integrated into the LCD, whatever) the card should be able to deliver playable frame rates in the native resolution of the screen! And noone can tell me that this is true for even the 17" in Doom III.

fraggle
 
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