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Duff-Man says....Overall I like the design - I'd like to see it first-hand though as they almost always look better that way than on the web. I think some people forget that this is a consumer machine, and to keep the price points down some compromises have to be made. Sure, I think more RAM is needed but if pushes the price up then it is lost sales....those that need more RAM can buy it and put in themselves. Same for the graphics card...you can't have "top of the line" in your mid-range consumer line - some people like to diss the nvidia card (how many posts in this thread say "it sucks") when in fact it is a decent, but not fantastic, card and gets the job done for the majority of the target applications and audience. Those that insist on top of the line graphics for photoshop and the highest-end games - buy the Powermac Dual 1.8. I think this will see well for Apple but as with any change in design there are naysayers....oh yeah!
 
its nice....

its nicer than that gumdrop thing before....and it DOES have a pretty decent processor.....also, VERY nice with the slot loading drive.....also,WHO said the drive couldnt be verticle.....I dont like the Jay Leno chin the thing has...but i guess they gotta put the components somewhere.....
 
It reminds me of the Ford Model T

You can have it in any color as long as it is white!
 
SiliconAddict said:
(Since no one in their right mind buys a Mac without Apple care)
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"Extended warranty? How can I lose?"
-Homer Simpson

While all the Apple stock holders appreciate your purchasing Applecare, saying that no sensible person would turn it down is completely laughable. Even the Apple refurbs have a year warranty on them now.. what do you expect to go wrong with a computer that won't make itself known within a year? If it's truly a defect, like the iBook logic board program, Apple still makes good on them, warranty or not. The only mechanical devices in a computer are the drives and the fans, and you could replace all of them for less than the cost of Applecare.

Unless you anticipate needing the hand-holding of the extended phone support, Applecare, and every other extended warranty, is a questionable investment. Put the money in Apple stock.
 
GPU and voltage

After reading all the posts, replies and counter-replies, I'm still left with two questions.

1. When the specs read "Line voltage: 100-120V AC or 100-240V AC, depending on country of use," does this mean I can buy one in the US (120v) and bring it over to Europe (240v) without having to hook it up to a converter?

2. Is the graphics card in any way upgradeable? I've looked all over the specs page and can't figure out whether or not I'll be able to put something else in there instead -- maybe not now, but in one or two years' time. My iBook G3/500 was quickly outdated by Quartz rendering and I'm determined not to have the same thing happen again when Tiger appears.

Thanks to whomever answers these.
 
drive speed

anyone know the speed of the optical drive?
where do you open it (can I add more memory myself) I realize you must be able to, but how???
 
autrefois said:
I hate to bring this up (it didn't look like anyone else did)—is this the only new thing announced?? It seems like the "One More Thing" was actually just "One Thing." :)
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That is precisely what I was thinking. And what's even more interesting is the fact (is it a fact?) that the iMac was initially planned to be released earlier. If that was the case, what were they planning on doing in Paris? According to the feed, most of the stuff mentioned was just regurgitated WWDC info. So does this mean a couple other mind-blowing products are waiting in the wings?

Squire
 
Voiteur said:
anyone know the speed of the optical drive?
where do you open it (can I add more memory myself) I realize you must be able to, but how???
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Like 99% of the questions in this thread, the answer is right on Apple's site. You twist 3 screws to take the back off, the RAM is right there, just like the picture shows.
 
Voiteur said:
anyone know the speed of the optical drive?
where do you open it (can I add more memory myself) I realize you must be able to, but how???
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I believe the optical drive is 4x on the iMac, whereas the new PowerMacs get an 8x drive. Some speculate this is becuase of the vertical mounting of the drive, some sort of attenuation is required. Who knows.

Check out the Apple site for pictures of the upgradability. The back pannel somehow detatches, and the RAM is over on the right hand side. Posts indicate that non proprietry memory works fine
 
Nice.....

It is very nice but not as aesthetically pleasing as the G4 i-mac, the G4 i-mac is.......how can i put it....umm...cute?? has character?? this looks like the LCD TV's you find in the market (don't get me wrong it's different and Nice) but still the G4 I-mac has its place as one of the nicest designed consumer desktops. :D :D :rolleyes:
 
Duff-Man said:
Same for the graphics card...you can't have "top of the line" in your mid-range consumer line - some people like to diss the nvidia card (how many posts in this thread say "it sucks") when in fact it is a decent, but not fantastic, card and gets the job done for the majority of the target applications and audience. Those that insist on top of the line graphics for photoshop and the highest-end games - buy the Powermac Dual 1.8.
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Agreed, but there are plenty of graphics chips available between 'absolute bottom end' and 'ultra high-end'. With the single exception of the Radeon 9600 XT AGP card in the G5 PowerMacs, Apple seems to skip straight from the very low end (Radeon 9200s and nVidia FX 5200s) to the very high end (Radeon 9800 XTs and GeForce 6800s) in their desktop lines. Is the mid-range all that bad? "Low-end crap to the left, high-end bling-bling to the right...stuck in the middle with you...stuck in the middle with you!"

I...err...rest my case.
 
eji said:
After reading all the posts, replies and counter-replies, I'm still left with two questions.

1. When the specs read "Line voltage: 100-120V AC or 100-240V AC, depending on country of use," does this mean I can buy one in the US (120v) and bring it over to Europe (240v) without having to hook it up to a converter?

2. Is the graphics card in any way upgradeable? I've looked all over the specs page and can't figure out whether or not I'll be able to put something else in there instead -- maybe not now, but in one or two years' time. My iBook G3/500 was quickly outdated by Quartz rendering and I'm determined not to have the same thing happen again when Tiger appears.

Thanks to whomever answers these.
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1- You're able to buy it in US, all what you need is an adaptor for the type of connector (5EUR?)

2-The graphic card is not upgradeable ... you cannot replace it but this card will work perfectly with Tiger according to apple specs, for some really hard work it won't be the best but I don't think you will find a problem with it...
 
Warbrain said:
It's ugly. There's not much to it. And I really do think it lost it's "cool" factor that the iMac G4 did.
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I reckon this was the iMac G4's failing. It was too cool, and lacked the charm of the original iMac G3. I love the look of the iMac G4 and am kinda sorry its gone, but I reckon it will do better in sales.

Warbrain said:
(kinda looks like a toy)
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I do believe they said this about the original iMac, which bodes well for sales.

That being said, it is not quite as good looking or as charming (i.e. multicoloured, mood / system status lighted enclosure, as per the recent patent application) as I would have hoped.

Sanj
 
eji said:
After reading all the posts, replies and counter-replies, I'm still left with two questions.

1. When the specs read "Line voltage: 100-120V AC or 100-240V AC, depending on country of use," does this mean I can buy one in the US (120v) and bring it over to Europe (240v) without having to hook it up to a converter?
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eji said:
2. Is the graphics card in any way upgradeable? I've looked all over the specs page and can't figure out whether or not I'll be able to put something else in there instead -- maybe not now, but in one or two years' time. My iBook G3/500 was quickly outdated by Quartz rendering and I'm determined not to have the same thing happen again when Tiger appears.

Thanks to whomever answers these.
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No
 
thatwendigo said:
Top of the line PowerMacs are now using 2.5ghz processors, middle grade on 2.0ghz, and the bottom of the line are hitting at 1.8ghz. The fastest iMac is a single processor version of the slowest PowerMac, minus 30% of the bus speed and dual-channel RAM. Even if the processors are identical, the processor performance will not be because the ability to access and move data around will be lower.

I'd love to see how it would be bad marketing to have a single-processor 2.0ghz machine, though. Enlighten me.
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Can someone tell me where on Apple's web stie or any for that matter states that the Power Mac G5 uses Dual Channel DDR, because i can't seem to find any hint of this. neither have a ever herd Jobs mention DC DDR , or any web site that sells G5 ram label it as such. it's always labeled DDR 3200(400mhz).
 
I must say I'm rather impressed, even more so than I thought I'd be. I loved the G4 iMac, but the G5 is even more amazing in most respects. I agree that it must be remembered that these are consumer grade machines. So if you need more than a 5200 graphics card, you should be buying a Power Mac anyway. The 5200 is just fine for the needs of the overwhelming majority of consumer users and it IS fully Core Image compatible. Plus the much needed price cuts are just what the doctor ordered. The 20" Cinema Display is $1,299 on it's own. So basically for an extra $600 you're getting a 1.8 GHz G5 Mac with a 160GB hard drive. Big props to Apple on this one. Now, only to be able to find one before Christmas... ;)
 
So this is what they've been doing while Steve was recovering

We need Steve back on the job to keep an eye on the ingeneers. They've been to busy with "what can we cram into a small space" and forgot to ask what is it good for.
 
Voiteur said:
anyone know the speed of the optical drive?
where do you open it (can I add more memory myself) I realize you must be able to, but how???
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SuperDrive (DVD-R/CD-RW): writes DVD-R discs at up to 4x speed, reads DVDs at up to 8x speed, writes CD-R discs at up to 16x speed, writes CD-RW discs at up to 8x speed, reads CDs at up to 24x speed
 
and still the undisputed champion of the world ...

mirror mirror on the wall who is the beautifullest of them all ..

Why my iMac G4 ..

The new iMac is nice ... but it is just missing something and I am not sure what it is ....
 
I love it.

I just bought a DP1.8 PowerMac - did I get ripped off? I could have traded a processor (and memory slots) for a built-in 20" display....
 
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