narco said:
many said the G5 was ugly, but later changed opinions when they actually viewed it. perhaps this will be the case here.
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many said the G5 was ugly, but later changed opinions when they actually viewed it. perhaps this will be the case here.
Charko said:
It looks great. New Apple products have a way of looking much better once you see them in person than they do in photos on their website. I remember when the Power Mac G5 was introduced a lot of people thought it looked strange or ugly until they got a chance to actually see it up close. Same with the new aluminum displays. This video gives a little better perspective anyway. Hopefully the Apple Stores will at least have demos in store to see here sometime fairly soon.
jimsowden said:
This always happens to Apple. Release a product, stock goes down. It's half the reason that Apple usually stays tight lipped about products.
Its ridiculous the poor level of investor confidence in Apple. Sure, they haven't been making tons of profit, but they do have money in the bank...at the very least, you'd think reintroducing iMac after going 2 MONTHS WITHOUT a consumer offering would buoy the stock price a bit...Investors are so crazy.
Not so new design??
Everybody makes one of these, everybody! Granted the new iMac G5 looks better than the rest. I would have to agrree with some comments, Yes the video card is less than adequate, minimal RAM, small hard drive. Here is a pict of the simillar product from Gateway, but it has 120gb hd, 128mb video, 512 ram, built in tivo, and sells for 500$ less
Everybody makes one of these, everybody! Granted the new iMac G5 looks better than the rest. I would have to agrree with some comments, Yes the video card is less than adequate, minimal RAM, small hard drive. Here is a pict of the simillar product from Gateway, but it has 120gb hd, 128mb video, 512 ram, built in tivo, and sells for 500$ less
What bothers me...
There are a few things I don't like.
1. The position of the auxiliary connections Firewire, USB et all, this is going to be a drag and the weight f the cables look as thought they may cause the screen to change position, in any event it is an elegant solution.
2. I think it is a bad choice to provide a 4x superdrive, 8 X and dual layer compatible should have been on the list.
3. The loss of horizontal rotation, this was just so useful and was a wonderful feature of the old iMac.
4. The NV5200 video card, I expected this card to be used and i don't suppose Apple could have included any video cards that would make some people happy in this forum. But the top of the range model is supposed to be aimed at gamers and a BTO choice of advanced card should have been on the list... maybe next time.
5. I am not sure that they needed to throttle back on the FSB a 3:1 multiplier was not necessary. PM's all have dual processors so I can't believe that they needed to do this. (I wonder if it is hackable?)
Clearly, Apple now has a roadmap, we have seen new machines like this come out to soak up initial demand. Then after a few months when the initial demand has slowed, the specifications improve.
I am really glad to see that the HDD is available in 250GB, hooray.
There are a few things I don't like.
1. The position of the auxiliary connections Firewire, USB et all, this is going to be a drag and the weight f the cables look as thought they may cause the screen to change position, in any event it is an elegant solution.
2. I think it is a bad choice to provide a 4x superdrive, 8 X and dual layer compatible should have been on the list.
3. The loss of horizontal rotation, this was just so useful and was a wonderful feature of the old iMac.
4. The NV5200 video card, I expected this card to be used and i don't suppose Apple could have included any video cards that would make some people happy in this forum. But the top of the range model is supposed to be aimed at gamers and a BTO choice of advanced card should have been on the list... maybe next time.
5. I am not sure that they needed to throttle back on the FSB a 3:1 multiplier was not necessary. PM's all have dual processors so I can't believe that they needed to do this. (I wonder if it is hackable?)
Clearly, Apple now has a roadmap, we have seen new machines like this come out to soak up initial demand. Then after a few months when the initial demand has slowed, the specifications improve.
I am really glad to see that the HDD is available in 250GB, hooray.
-hh said:
That's all fine and dandy, but the reality is that Apple's high end products have higher profit margins. They charge $200 more for example to go from the low end to mid iMac. There is no way that a slightly faster processor and a date SuperDrive add $200 to their costs. Maybe $50 max. If I can buy a 16X burner for $90, just imagine how little it costs Apple to buy 4X burners in quantities of 100,000.
Gateway's Profile line starts at $1,099 with a 15" display and at $1,499 with a 17" display, so it's not $500 less, it's actually more expensive than the iMac. Plus it's fugly to boot...
http://gateway.com/home/products/hm_dtp_aio.shtml?clv=LNav
http://gateway.com/home/products/hm_dtp_aio.shtml?clv=LNav
The hole in the stand is for threading the cables through - this will almost eliminate drag on the screen/computer itself.JW Pepper said:
Likely due to cost/heat considerations - it is slot-loading, which is nice.JW Pepper said:
Lazy-susan-like stand base will undoubtedly be out in a week or so to address this issue.JW Pepper said:
No one is surprised by the card, but I agree everyone would have been happier with a better one. However, heat considerations might have forced the issue.JW Pepper said:
Yes, it'll be fun to see what's announced in January. However, I could buy one of these and be happy.JW Pepper said:
This one uses a multiplier of 3. 3x600 = 1800. A bit less bandwith than the desktop G5. Probably one of a few things internally to help the iMac G5 not beat the powermac in benchmarks.nospleen said:
FriarTuck said:
Dear Mac Apologist,
Please continue to mindlessly purchase whatever product we shove down your throat -- regardless of its shortcomings. If you don't, who will?
Don't even dare to question Apple's decision making process.
Carry on.
FriarTuck said:
rog said:
I didn't know that there are 16x slot-load drives ...
But, you may have right with the small increase apple have in their products for the profit...
jasonbuss said:
The card is most likely a Cardbus card, as opposed to the old 16Bit interface Airport card. A Cardbus card (32 bit bus), is essentially the same speed as a PCI (32bit) bus. So plenty of bandwith there to handle the 54MBPS Airport Extreme. I am sure it it the same AEX card they use in the Powerbooks.
Yes I know I could find it ok but I want to put these in computer labs and people that don't usually use macs will come up to them and be like how do I turn this thing on! If no one is there to help they will go to one of our pc with the power button clearly on the front.emw said:
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So, there have been a lot of folks complaining about graphics capabilities on the new iMac. I would just like to point out that these are for consumers, not the gaming community. I know the gaming community likes to think that everything should meet its outrageous minimum specs, but the focus of the iMac lineup is the everyday email/Web surfing/word processing/send photos to grandma crowd. If you want better graphics, more RAM space and bigger hard drives buy a PowerMac. How many soccer moms play Unreal Tournament 2004 or Doom 3? Apple is trying to get a machine in every household it can, not make sure every household can blast mutant demons in its spare time.
Offices, such as my own, also use iMacs. And, if the price point were any higher we couldn't. Do we really need 128MB of VRAM to run Word, Excel and Acrobat Reader? Personally, I'd much rather see a row of these beautiful new machines in every office, internet cafe, and in the windows of houses on my street than consider how much more they would cost if folks got all the bells and whistles of a PowerMac in the form of an iMac. These are not professional editing or gaming computers, they are computers for the rest of the world.
Besides, Apple will introduce revision 2 iMacs, undoubtedly with a lot of these features people want now, in January (either standard or BTO). Of this I'm almost certain.
</rant>
All that being said, I'm really astounded by the new iMac. It is a real thing of beauty, and if I didn't do a lot of gaming and sound work at home (see rant above) I'd be first in line to buy one for my everyday computing (see rant above). Apple's harnessed all the good things about the G5 chip and introduced 64-bit processing to millions of households and offices with this machine. There's also another benefit about being able to hang it on a wall: better office ergonomics - anyone can hang the iMac at any height they need to correctly position the screen for ergonomic computing. As a rather tall women (5'11"), I always struggle with losing desk space to prop up my monitor or iMac.
The only thing I wish Apple would do in future iMacs is return color to the lineup. Maybe that's what the new "Chamelion" patent is all about, but I would love the stunning colors of the "Five Flavors" on this new G5 iMac.
I'v got a feeling these machines are going to sell like hotcakes.
So, there have been a lot of folks complaining about graphics capabilities on the new iMac. I would just like to point out that these are for consumers, not the gaming community. I know the gaming community likes to think that everything should meet its outrageous minimum specs, but the focus of the iMac lineup is the everyday email/Web surfing/word processing/send photos to grandma crowd. If you want better graphics, more RAM space and bigger hard drives buy a PowerMac. How many soccer moms play Unreal Tournament 2004 or Doom 3? Apple is trying to get a machine in every household it can, not make sure every household can blast mutant demons in its spare time.
Offices, such as my own, also use iMacs. And, if the price point were any higher we couldn't. Do we really need 128MB of VRAM to run Word, Excel and Acrobat Reader? Personally, I'd much rather see a row of these beautiful new machines in every office, internet cafe, and in the windows of houses on my street than consider how much more they would cost if folks got all the bells and whistles of a PowerMac in the form of an iMac. These are not professional editing or gaming computers, they are computers for the rest of the world.
Besides, Apple will introduce revision 2 iMacs, undoubtedly with a lot of these features people want now, in January (either standard or BTO). Of this I'm almost certain.
</rant>
All that being said, I'm really astounded by the new iMac. It is a real thing of beauty, and if I didn't do a lot of gaming and sound work at home (see rant above) I'd be first in line to buy one for my everyday computing (see rant above). Apple's harnessed all the good things about the G5 chip and introduced 64-bit processing to millions of households and offices with this machine. There's also another benefit about being able to hang it on a wall: better office ergonomics - anyone can hang the iMac at any height they need to correctly position the screen for ergonomic computing. As a rather tall women (5'11"), I always struggle with losing desk space to prop up my monitor or iMac.
The only thing I wish Apple would do in future iMacs is return color to the lineup. Maybe that's what the new "Chamelion" patent is all about, but I would love the stunning colors of the "Five Flavors" on this new G5 iMac.
I'v got a feeling these machines are going to sell like hotcakes.
itsa said:
I woudl agree with you, but I see me buying it for the house as my desk computer. Still has a bit more oomph than my 1.25GHZ PB. Still, I think 2GB of memory is in order to run the EyeHome server and Garage Band at the same time
jsw said:
Here's what you get with the $2000 version (clipped) -
(1) Type II PC card slot
(6) USB 2.0 ports (2 side, 4 rear), (1) Serial (back), (1) Parallel, (2) PS/2
Line-in, line-out and mic (back), headphone and mic (front), VGA-out (in back on NVIDIA® graphics configurations), VGA-in
16.93" x 18.66" x 7.41" (WxHxD), approximately 25.4lb.6
19" LCD flat panel display
Integrated Intel® Extreme Graphics 2 with 64MB shared memory buffer
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Not so hot compared to the 20" iMac, I'd say... No firewire, shared memory on the video card, 19" display (which looks 4:3), ugly.
But it does have VGA in.
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