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New iMac In September
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age234 said:
Are you insane? The iMac is Apple's best selling computer (well, lumped with the eMac). This is like Microsoft saying it won't be selling Office for 60 days.
This is a total disaster. The whole year has been and Apple must be thanking Steve for investing so much in iPod and ITMS otherwise this would of been an absolutely disastrous year for them.
SeanMcg
macrumors 6502
Damned if you do, Damned if you don't
Apple announces ship date, ship date slips - we complain that they announced too early.
Apple tries to prevent people's orders from being cancelled due to exhausted inventory and we complain.
We complain about Microsoft copying Apple and calling it innovation, and then we complain that our favorite, truly innovative company is not doing things the way they "always" did.
(Just an observation - and an oversimplified one at that - but not a complaint 😉 )
(As for the Apple buyers outside the US, I wouldn't be surprised if the same warning starts gradually rolling through the other stores, since they don't all ship from the same place.)
Apple announces ship date, ship date slips - we complain that they announced too early.
Apple tries to prevent people's orders from being cancelled due to exhausted inventory and we complain.
We complain about Microsoft copying Apple and calling it innovation, and then we complain that our favorite, truly innovative company is not doing things the way they "always" did.
(Just an observation - and an oversimplified one at that - but not a complaint 😉 )
(As for the Apple buyers outside the US, I wouldn't be surprised if the same warning starts gradually rolling through the other stores, since they don't all ship from the same place.)
restarting production
A quick note in responce to people think that Apple could have just produced more iMacs to fill the gap -
Most likely Apple built up a stock pile that was supposed to last until two weeks from now or so, in the mean time they most likely retooled their assembly line for the new mac at a fairly high cost and have run into production problems. Now they can't go back and make more old imacs because they do not have the production capabilities;it would be a huge amount of money to go back the old factory toolings... So they're stuck. Manufactoring is a very expensive part of the computer process...
A quick note in responce to people think that Apple could have just produced more iMacs to fill the gap -
Most likely Apple built up a stock pile that was supposed to last until two weeks from now or so, in the mean time they most likely retooled their assembly line for the new mac at a fairly high cost and have run into production problems. Now they can't go back and make more old imacs because they do not have the production capabilities;it would be a huge amount of money to go back the old factory toolings... So they're stuck. Manufactoring is a very expensive part of the computer process...
iGary said:
A 1.5 ghz G4 would be unlikely to qualify as an "All-new Lineup", nor would it have yield problems *this bad.*
LaMerVipere
macrumors 6502a
Apple has no desktop computer between $1000-$2000? How about these: http://store.apple.com/1-800-MY-APP...so8aj1yu1NTxQ/0.0.7.1.0.6.21.1.8.1.0.0.0.1.0?
could it be a different problem?
Could it be so that there is a different problem for Apple - namely it's not so much with IBM as with MOTO?!
could it be that G4 are "no more"?
the g5 imac's are not ready and so there is nothing to sell/buy
could it be that it is a designated decoy of something different entirely?
Could it be so that there is a different problem for Apple - namely it's not so much with IBM as with MOTO?!
could it be that G4 are "no more"?
the g5 imac's are not ready and so there is nothing to sell/buy
could it be that it is a designated decoy of something different entirely?
Chip NoVaMac
macrumors G3
rdowns said:
Yeah, but Apple should have had better planning IMO. With their just in time inventory system (BTO) it should have been easier to keep a minimum G4 iMac's in channel.
The other factor is that Apple could now be looking for a new manufacturer. For the blame could be with the plant that did the G4 iMac, and they could be the ones to do the G5 iMac. They may not have the capacity to produce more than one line at a time. Does anyone know if Apple sole sources the iMac G4?
Are you guys crazy?
Come one people. This IS NOT good news. Apple will be losing a lot of income because of this. Who cares if they release new imacs in July or September? It doesn't matter either way. The problem is they don't have anything to sell which means they don't bring in money. Again, this is a very very bad thing. Watch the stock plunge a bit tomorrow.
Before you guys jump all over me, yes, its nice that a new imac is coming out. Not having anything to sell in the mean time is not so nice.
I've high-lighted the important words in my post so you can see the problems more clearly.
Come one people. This IS NOT good news. Apple will be losing a lot of income because of this. Who cares if they release new imacs in July or September? It doesn't matter either way. The problem is they don't have anything to sell which means they don't bring in money. Again, this is a very very bad thing. Watch the stock plunge a bit tomorrow.
Before you guys jump all over me, yes, its nice that a new imac is coming out. Not having anything to sell in the mean time is not so nice.
I've high-lighted the important words in my post so you can see the problems more clearly.
sdf
macrumors 65816
MoparShaha said:
You're joking, right? It's been 50% at best the last few years for whether a product is ready to ship when announced.
What is new is pre-announcing an announcement without including glorius, detailed specs. Which makes me think it competes favourably with the current crop of G5 towers. 🙂
Chip NoVaMac
macrumors G3
goglamosh said:
Yeah, but Apple has already said production has stopped on that one if I saw a note here correctly. Also talk about "old tech"!
SJ comment on this is going to be an amazing mac year could also mean a new game plan for the company they are going to do untraditional releases and announcements that were not done previously.
REMEMBER the TIGER OS is 64-bit so they have to move most of they hardware line to 64-bit along with software for 2005 so it burn the competition out of the arena. The eMac and iBook still might have G4 however TIGER has support for those lines no biggy.
With the iMac G5 innards spaced out flat that meant that the G5 chip can be cooled easier and with AL that is the magic recipe, no need for hugh fans like the Tower since its not expandable.
This is Great news even though its not like Apple, this is the new Apple we are seeing with Support for MAC + PC 😉
Something tells me at MWSF 2005 we will see PB G5 2GHz min model along with a 3.5GHz PM and the iMac G5 top end at 2GHz.
REMEMBER the TIGER OS is 64-bit so they have to move most of they hardware line to 64-bit along with software for 2005 so it burn the competition out of the arena. The eMac and iBook still might have G4 however TIGER has support for those lines no biggy.
With the iMac G5 innards spaced out flat that meant that the G5 chip can be cooled easier and with AL that is the magic recipe, no need for hugh fans like the Tower since its not expandable.
This is Great news even though its not like Apple, this is the new Apple we are seeing with Support for MAC + PC 😉
Something tells me at MWSF 2005 we will see PB G5 2GHz min model along with a 3.5GHz PM and the iMac G5 top end at 2GHz.
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What are you talking about? Are you lost in the wrong thread or am I missing something? Perhaps you understood "itunes" instead of "iMac"?
madrobby said:
What are you talking about? Are you lost in the wrong thread or am I missing something? Perhaps you understood "itunes" instead of "iMac"?
I know that it takes weeks if not months to ramp up a production of a (new) line of computers.
But, why on earth did they not order another lot of let's say 100 000 iMacs (current modell), as soon as is it became clear that the new iMac wouldn't make it on time. I know they might have had problems getting all the components together, and restarting a production line can be terrible expensive. But better not making no profit at all when selling them, than not being able to sell anything at all.
(o.k. they probably did the calculation and it would have been horribly expensive for them.)
Now, let them buy used iMacs on E-bay or start a trade-in program for iMacs and sell them in their refurb store.
But, why on earth did they not order another lot of let's say 100 000 iMacs (current modell), as soon as is it became clear that the new iMac wouldn't make it on time. I know they might have had problems getting all the components together, and restarting a production line can be terrible expensive. But better not making no profit at all when selling them, than not being able to sell anything at all.
(o.k. they probably did the calculation and it would have been horribly expensive for them.)
Now, let them buy used iMacs on E-bay or start a trade-in program for iMacs and sell them in their refurb store.
man, I've got no idea how to rate this. September is a long way. now is more than late enough. But, I think it's a good move of apple's to actually talk about it, make people know they arent' just being stupid. Now, they do need to stop having such hurdles with doing everything. Then again, that they say all this about technical problems makes me think it's definately a g5, and maybe more cool stuff, too
