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saabmp3 said:
"I think pro users understand why they can order something and wait fora couple months for it to arrive while the average home users just doesn't get that concept ( and for a good reason).

BEN

I called the Apple online store to ask about when the dual 2.5gig machines would ship and the guy said he didn't know anything more than what it said. Sometime in July. I called B&H and they said late July or early August. After waiting so long I'm rethinking my plan and may get a Dell dual 3.2gig machine which just had a big price reduction. Still more exprensive than the Mac but a lot faster and it's available now. Funny that, you can actually buy the stuff on the Dell online store.

More than a year after Steve Job's promise to have a dual 3gig machine and still the faster Mac computer sold today is 2gigs. Apple is pathetic.
 
Could a shortage of G5 processors in the pipeline have anything to do with a combination of the following?:

1) IBM's inability to keep up with demand for G5 processors.

2) Apple stresses the G5 supply even more and schedules a much-needed upgrade to the iMac line. They stop production of G4 iMacs anticipating that inventories will sell just in time for planned rollout of new iMac G5s.

3) Just as production gets started on iMac G5s, an $8.5 million order is placed for 1,544 dual G5 X-Serves for the U.S. Army.

Granted, it's just 3,088 chips, but could a sudden demand to fulfill a contract of that magnitude have been enough to create a hiccup in an already diminished supply pipeline? Didn't Virginia Tech's order do much the same thing months ago?
 
Well this is a shock. I would have thought that Apple might have said that new iMacs are coming in a few months or something, but not actually a specific month.

I'm a little disappointed with the release date of these, though. September... :(. It does sound like it's going to sport a completely new form factor. I really like this form factor, but I'm sure Apple will create something just as spectacular in this latest revision.

Here's to new iMacs!
JOD8FY
 
lem0nayde said:
Apple needs to abandon the all-in-one. Put a G5 in the new iMac and let people buy whatever kind of monitor they want. If they're rich, they can get a $3500 30" LCD monitor, if not they can use their old PC's 17" CRT.

That's not the purpose of the iMac.
 
JOD8FY said:
I just checked and it was 94 million, not 97 ;). This is a nice promo, though....

JOD8FY

Besides, the promo doesn't begin until the count hits 95 million anyway. :p
 
Lancetx said:
I guess we'll all have to tune in for Steve's keynote in Paris to get the details. As for stores that still have current iMacs in stock, I wonder if they'll be discounted since they're technically discontinued models now.
Well economiclly speaking.
prices should go up as there is no stock
 
Now unavailable everywhere

jobberwacky said:
Just tried the UK and the Swiss store. Looks like Europeans are expected to acquire those legacy systems :D
That's history. The same (English-language) message as in the US store now appears everywhere.
 
rdowns said:
Pass the crack pipe. Apple is going to release a 64 bit OS that less than 10% of their installed base can buy and use.

Some of Tiger will be 64 bit, it will run on older G4s and, most likely, G3s since Apple sold them until several months ago.

PB G5s are a ways off, and Apple has said so. Early 2005 is probably very, very optimistic.

As for this iMac fiasco, were I an Apple board member, Steve would be flying coach on his private jet until this is worked out.

50% of Apple's user base uses OS X. Don't know how many have the G5 I am going to guess far less, duh :)

That said what better way to get people ready for a 64-bit OS than introduce the G5 in a consumer line (iMac).

You never know mate its best to be optimistic than to think this is another moto phase.

Maybe I am smoking something in my PIPE its a new substance called OPTIMISIM :D
 
Anyone notice what 3 of the 4 messages Steve searched in Mail during his keynote were about a "half dome". Maybe a hint at the design of the new iMac? Ads with the half dome in Yosemite?
 
As Igloo has said, AppleInsider looks to have been right before this "less than perfect" situation. They are not taking ThinkSecret's "laughing" criticism too lightly, especially after this apparent justification.

ThinkSecret said:
Employees tell us that Apple is laughing at the rumors on this one -- spearheaded by recent analyst prognostications -- and the company is loving the hype that just makes everyone want to pay attention to WWDC even more.

AppleInsider said:
The statement also does its part to debunk rumors that Apple has been "laughing" at recent reports and analyst's statements that positioned an iMac G5 introduction around the time of its World Wide Developers Conference.
 
May All-in-one's live on

lem0nayde said:
Apple needs to abandon the all-in-one.

You're from NYC so I respect you for that... my whole family-in-law lives in Long Island. So therefore I won't chew apart this statement too much. :p

But I do have to say the all-in-one like the iMac and eMac is what drove me to switch to Apple in the first place. I thought the design was brilliant. And I just love it when I show people the iMac... and they say "Where's the rest of it?" (When they say "Where's the cd drive".. now that's a close second).

Some Mac users (and more importantly the switchers) do so because of ease (one-button mouse), security, design, etc. They do not do so because they know exactly what needs they have. I personally would never get an iMac because I want expandability. But my Mom, who is ACHING to get her hands on an iMac, would never ever need anything beyond an all-in-one.

So I personally hope Apple never abandons it. I hope they continue to supplement it. Here's hoping September knocks our socks off.
 
Hemingray said:
You make it sound like Apple only sells iMacs. Yes, they'll hurt from this, but not by much. Between iPods, iTMS, the new PowerMacs, the new displays, the PowerBooks, iBooks, eMacs, xServes, and software, I don't think they're in too bad a shape, do you?
Yes, I do actually. No imacs, can't get a 2.5ghz PM till end of July/early August at the soonest, can't get a new display and you can't get a ipod mini. Meaning, they don't have much to sell right now so not only has the 3rd quater gone bad, but the current quater will be bad as well. Being a business, they need to bring in money. Over the next three months they won't be bringing in what they should.

I will admit that I was planning on selling my Apple stock in September/October. This isn't going to be good for me personally. However, personal stuff aside, this makes Apple look bad as well.
 
I just hope that new iMac will have new aluminum-style casing - that should force Apple to AT LAST make a proper and color-matched keyboard and mouse for G5 pro-systems.

Just take a look at current 30" Cinema with that cheap funny white eMac keyboard! It looks like mighty tiger in balet shoes :-(.
 
still a g4

you will still see a g4 in the imac come september, just beefed up. For example, 1ghz, 1.2 ghz, and 1.5 ghz ~ simlar to those found in the powerbook g4's. :eek:
 
Schools

A whole generation of college freshmen will go off to school this year without an Apple because of this. And their next computer is unlikely to be an Apple as a result... And the next ...

To the extent Apple still carries disproportionate weight in the educational market, this is a serious blow to whatever is left.

This is a major, major screw-up.
 
CubaTBird said:
you will still see a g4 in the imac come september, just beefed up. For example, 1ghz, 1.2 ghz, and 1.5 ghz ~ simlar to those found in the powerbook g4's. :eek:

Why would they need a completely new design for that? If they were just going to beef up the processors, then why not keep the current design? That way they wouldn't be in the mess they're in now.
 
The first thing I thought is "20th aniversary mac?"

I hope it's a g5 cube. Then I can replace my g4 cube. :D
 
Marketing Oppurtunity

Just a thought, Apple could turn this problem into a marketing oppurtunity. Every couple of weeks Apple could reveal some clue or hint to a feature in the new iMac and make a contest out of it.

I remember when Apple was coming out with the Apple IIgs there were ads in the back of magazines that said a new Apple was coming. It had a sheet over the Apple IIgs but you could see a mouse poking out from beneath the covers. This would truly get the Apple rumormill going crazy,

Just a thought
 
all I can say is Wow! - not the Apple way of announcing a new product.

The stock is going to drop off a lot on this - kind of shocking, no?

Makes me very curious what the new machine is actually going to be. :D

Good move by Apple, though.

D
 
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