Just remove that pastel colour from the front, and it make a solid colour like the back. Such a strange design choice
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Can someone give me an example of something they want to do with an M2 machine that is impossible with the M1, or that will take a ridiculously long time?
And where the iMac factor is crucial so that they can't/won't invest in an M2 machine with another form factor?
And where the iMac factor is crucial so that they can't/won't invest in an M2 machine with another form factor?
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I think most of us would be ok with all this if only they sold a monitor that wasn't over engineered and/or double the price it should be
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This also points to the OTHER reality: while I suspect a lot of "I just want a 27" iMac with silicon" crowd is driven by classic pricing recollections, it seems obvious that a new iMac "bigger" will not roll out at < $2K pricing. I suspect that if there is one, it will have a "starting at" about DOUBLE the price we remember. Why? Because Apple just proved to both themselves and the market that they could strip out the entire computer and sell only the screen for the old "starting at..." price of iMac 27".
When I try to imagine the iMac "bigger" resurrection, I think about Studio Monitor plus MBpro Mac tech "guts" being added into it. Look at 14" MBpro, subtract something for that screen then add that to Studio Monitor pricing. To me, that probably gets pricing of an iMac "bigger" at about $3499 give or take a few hundred. And I suspect that will be minimal specs... so nicely equipped probably runs north of $4K.
Apple being Apple, I further expect it to be branded "PRO" and thus pricing of a pro-branded iMac already has a pricing precedent of north of $4K from a few years ago.
I wonder how much of the enthusiasm for a new iMac "bigger" would shift if it jettisons the assumption of relatively high value pricing like the prior iMac 27"?
Studio plus whole Silicon Mac inside for "starting at..." below $2K. WOW! Relative to all Macs, that would be quite a value.
But set that "starting at..." per the logic shared above and it seems very best case MIGHT get a bare minimum spec at $2999 and- to me anyway- starting at $3499.
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Just get a mini M2 Pro and a good display and you’ll be laughing hahahahahahahahahaha 😄
I agree it’s crazy to do that. As long as the machine still works and runs what you need the CPU is irrelevant. I have a vintage iMac that is just fine for web browsing and running an old version of Office for a family member.
I have also donated old MBs that are still useful for similar use cases and they perform fine.
If you have a desk that is facing towards a room instead of a wall, it allow for some pretty interesting room decorations.
When the 24" iMac was first sold a lot of people posted how they selected a color that accented the design of the room it was placed in. Also note it really had a small foot print compared to other setups.
Prices have and are continuing to go up. That is life. At least Apple still offers something that would fit the needs of a 27" iMac user.
When I purchased my MBP in 2011, I was happy to spend ~$2.3k since RAM and the HDD could be user upgraded. Now when I buy a MBP I have to spend ~$3.3k to get what I want.
Hopefully this time they dare to carry the bold colors to the front of the machine.
I doubt that the M2 line is a stopgap. If Apple had stopped with just the M2 then it would make sense but with the addition of the M2 Pro and Max it seems pretty clear that the M2 was a planned step between TSMC N5 and N3. I do think everything M2 related was delayed by about 6 months though.
I think a current iMac with 16GB RAM and 1TB SSD would fulfill my needs, but since I’m not desperate for a new computer (and cannot upgrade RAM on the new iMac) I’m waiting to see that M3 iMac for the possibly 24 or 32 RAM option.
And if I have to wait until the tail end of 2023, oh well…
And if I have to wait until the tail end of 2023, oh well…
2021 iMac M1 is copying the color scheme and lines of the 1998 iMac G3. The colors and lines of the G3 were designed by Jony Ive & approved by Steve Jobs.
As a consumer desktop that may be used by a minority of business use case it makes sense.
Bezel color, color scheme and ratio and proportions at the front is very similar. Take particular note of the G3's chin and the M1's chin
If the iMac 27" replacement was a scaled up iMac M1 I'd not complain about it so long as the port selection at the back mirrors that of the Mac mini M2 Pro or Mac Studio M1 Max.
Pricing of a iMac 27" replacement may inch nearer to $3k than to $2k.
Because of the price point odds are the colors to be offered would probably be just space grey & silver.
This is the configuration I'd like to see on mine
<$2999 iMac 27" replacement with a 27" 5K, 30" 5.5K or even 32" 6K display
- M2 Pro
- 10-Core CPU
- 16-Core GPU
- 32GB RAM LPDDR5
- 1TB SSD ~7.5GB/s
- ~100W
- I/O port of Mac mini M2 Pro or Mac Studio M1 Max
My exactly 10yo 2012 iMac 27" Core i7 22nm BTO had 32GB RAM on day 1. So I'm getting the M2 5nm chip that can accommodate 32GB RAM. I want that much as I intend to keep it until year 2033 when process nodes are 0.5nm (A5)
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why do people keep saying that? It will NOT. You will have 2 additional cables and 1 extra box sitting on your desk. Apple is all about design right? So give us the imac clean set up.
Great concept and you absolutely nailed it with the selection of these pro-level colors, but why not make the bigger sibling 30 inches? I'd love to see one!
M1 doesn't have the Media Engine, so video export capabilities are a bit more limited. but that's only going to affect fairly casual users of that facility I think. Anyone who's doing it seriously would have something with an M1Pro in it at *least*.
1) On the one hand, for the intended audience, the current M1 performance is more than enough for all current use cases. It is a computer for home and basic office work, not for video editing, coding, etc. M1 computers (MacBook Air, iMac) do all that just fine.
2) The 24" screen is very high quality - it isn't large, but it isn't small either.
3) People are right that the iMac design has some advantages over the Mac mini / Studio Display package. One of the great advantages of the current iMac is the small footprint - it is a much sleeker design than the 27 inch iMacs sold previously.
Honestly, I think a lot of people complaining about the iMac should actually give the current model a try. It is an excellent computer!
2) The 24" screen is very high quality - it isn't large, but it isn't small either.
3) People are right that the iMac design has some advantages over the Mac mini / Studio Display package. One of the great advantages of the current iMac is the small footprint - it is a much sleeker design than the 27 inch iMacs sold previously.
Honestly, I think a lot of people complaining about the iMac should actually give the current model a try. It is an excellent computer!
Use a VESA mount on the back. It should be able to bolt ove the stand mounts.
Yes, but it's only natural that at some point you would replace an older model with a new one that has upgrades and features without necessarily raising the price.
Both with the MBA and the entry-level iPad Apple has opted for increasing the price through the back door by leaving the previous model in the lineup at exactly the same price point. Generally stuff should get cheaper over time.
Well there you have it. If he hasn't seen something, it doesn't exist folks.
Someone who does photo editing in apps like Photoshop and Lightroom would benefit from the option of 24 GB of RAM (and the iMac's color accurate display), but Adobe apps tend not to scale their performance with multiple cores beyond four or so, so they see less of an advantage from the added cores of the Pro or Max variant.
Sure, but at some point in time you still have adapt to inflation.
I do think there is a valid reason why they did raise the price on the MBA while going a different route with the Mini.
Screens and batteries are something Apple needs to buy from 3rd parties and if those prices did go up.
the time of the iMac is over..
The winning move = Mac Mini + a display with the screen size, ports, and inputs you want..
I'm also coming from a 32GB RAM iMac from a decade ago. If the M1/M2 offered that RAM config I'd opt to get that as any Apple Silicon Mac would outperform anything made 10 years ago.
Apple must have observed some users that run other apps with Adobe at the same time that could use the spare cores.