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Dual Display Spanning on an iMac G5?
Does anyone know if there is a legit way to ust the video out on the iMac mini VGA port to drive a second, extended desktop display?? I found a applescript firmware patch at http://macparts.de/ibook/ Is there any other way to do this on an iMac? Will this work with the new ATI card in the Rev.B? If so, this all of a sudden makes this new Rev.B even more appealing.
--Oh yea - by the way, does anyone know if this little firmware patch would void an applecare warranty?
Does anyone know if there is a legit way to ust the video out on the iMac mini VGA port to drive a second, extended desktop display?? I found a applescript firmware patch at http://macparts.de/ibook/ Is there any other way to do this on an iMac? Will this work with the new ATI card in the Rev.B? If so, this all of a sudden makes this new Rev.B even more appealing.
--Oh yea - by the way, does anyone know if this little firmware patch would void an applecare warranty?
you can get virtual fax #s online. At onebox.com they charge $13/month to receive faxes and voicemails at a virtual #. Shame... it used to be free.Sunrunner said:
lopresmb said:--Oh yea - by the way, does anyone know if this little firmware patch would void an applecare warranty?
it most certainly does, you're changing apple's firmware in an unsupported fashion. i still strongly recommend it though since it's a foolish limitation to stick on a computer.
as for the support for revision B, these patches seem to have worked straight across the board since video cards in the i line became powerful enough so you shouldn't need any mods...
Daym, I was ready to buy a mini Friday. I already bought my new Dell 2005FPW. I am thinking about selling the monitor and just buy the 20" iMac. Who wants a 2005FPW?
Who wants a 2005FPW? To everyone considering getting the new iMac (i'm sure there will be loads of you..I personally think that this is one of the best hardware updates recently). Anyway, remember that the iMac supports dual channel memory so getting the standard 512MB and then adding a 1GB stick later is not optimum.B-52 Macer said:Woha, ordered a 20" with 400 GB HD, Airport eporess and Apple care with edu discount.
I'll buy more RAM later, cheaper from somewhere else, I think 1 GB extra will be just fine.
Nice update Apple!
The Question..
"Better graphics"
The Imac has better graphics but it seems people are STILL complaining about the PM update. Mind you, its harder to update things, obviously, when its at the TOP of the line... But i really do like this update... waiting out for Ibook but with this update, the ibook will probably not come out till June.
Cheers,
Ini
"Better graphics"
The Imac has better graphics but it seems people are STILL complaining about the PM update. Mind you, its harder to update things, obviously, when its at the TOP of the line... But i really do like this update... waiting out for Ibook but with this update, the ibook will probably not come out till June.
Cheers,
Ini
yuy said:
Trout74 said:
Guess, I'm just slow.
I also only see the 9600xt listed, not the 9600, as supporting Core Image. Could you direct us to where you found the info..Tks
asif786 said:
met a fellow who bought an ibook 2 weeks before the ibook g4 series. they exchanged it for the g4 model no questions asked.
deejemon said:
Think about this:
You're saying you wish they'd give you Panther instead of Tiger, right? And you also say you could upgrade to Tiger when you were ready. That means you'd be willing to buy Tiger when you want it, right? So why not just buy new computers with Tiger, and buy Panther to put on them now?In fact, since Panther is now longer for sale on Apple's site, you could probably use currently-owned copies and install it on all the machines without breaking the license terms. How are you supposed to get a ton of Panther CDs/DVDs when they're not for sale, right?
So you're coming out thousands of $ ahead.
Ahh, gotcha'. There's ZERO concern about the iMac being able to run Panther though, lol. Of course it'll run Panther.deejemon said:
Don't worry. The 1.8 and 2.0 models are the same as the 1.6 and 1.8 were - they just have "more" of what the "old" ones had. Don't kid yourself. All of the current Macs will run any version of OS X.
I can't believe people are so happy with this update. The new superdrive is nice and the update to 512MB was way way overdue, but apple has essentially not upgraded the video card at all. They added another 64MB to a graphics core that performs pretty much the same as a 5200 Ultra (i.e. completely worthless for games). It's very strange to me that Apple isn't pouncing on this window of opportunity they have while their brandname is redhot. If they would have stuck a decent 8pipe card in these imacs, they could have lured a ton of people over. I know I would be tempted.
I'm already a mac user, I use FCP for a living, but I'll never completely switch from PC until Apple stops jerking people around and puts decent video cards in their consumer machines. I'd love a 20" imac that I could come home and play a few games on. You can't complain about the mac mini video card, but the imac is a $1500 machine. Apple is simply ripping us off.
Lots of apologists are going to come out and say 'its ok for casual gaming'.. well , it really isn't. If by casual gaming you mean playing games that are 5 years old, or playing modern games at around 15fps, then I guess you're right. the vanilla radeon 9600 core is over 2 years old at this point, why use it? the imac is the consumer line, consumers like to play games. Here are some benchmarks showing what a pathetic card this is- http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/index.html
Keep in mind the card in the imac is a plain 9600, not a 9600 pro or 9600xt. Also, these are pc benchmarks, the card will perform even worse on a mac due to the poor porting done to bring games over.
I'm already a mac user, I use FCP for a living, but I'll never completely switch from PC until Apple stops jerking people around and puts decent video cards in their consumer machines. I'd love a 20" imac that I could come home and play a few games on. You can't complain about the mac mini video card, but the imac is a $1500 machine. Apple is simply ripping us off.
Lots of apologists are going to come out and say 'its ok for casual gaming'.. well , it really isn't. If by casual gaming you mean playing games that are 5 years old, or playing modern games at around 15fps, then I guess you're right. the vanilla radeon 9600 core is over 2 years old at this point, why use it? the imac is the consumer line, consumers like to play games. Here are some benchmarks showing what a pathetic card this is- http://graphics.tomshardware.com/graphic/20041004/index.html
Keep in mind the card in the imac is a plain 9600, not a 9600 pro or 9600xt. Also, these are pc benchmarks, the card will perform even worse on a mac due to the poor porting done to bring games over.
You didn't mention the doubled HDs, Bluetooth 2.0 standard, AirPort Extreme standard, and 200MHz CPU bump. People are happy with the update because it's a great update.woog315 said:
I hear you on the graphics card. It's not fabulous. The iMac is not a gaming machine though, nor are Macs designed to be Playstations. The reason people are happy about the iMac update is because of the numerous upgrades (about $400-500 worth) for free (since it still costs $1299-same as the old model).
Edit: By the way, here's my feeling, and I've always had this feeling: If you want to play games, get a PC, or get a gaming console. They're *designed* for games, they'll perform better when playing games, and they're much cheaper. Don't buy an iMac to be a Playstation though.