I just bought a Mac Mini (2.6GHz and Fusion Drive) instead of the iMac. I have no desire for the 27" screen and the 21.5" model requires $450 in upgrades (from the cheapest model) just to get the Fusion Drive, otherwise you are stuck with the 5400RPM HD that is no good for video editing. Was a very frustrating process but at least now I have a great computer and better yet, have a 24" monitor (DELL) that I prefer over the iMac options. iMac is still amazing, but the 21.5" model is very overpriced unless you are OK with the 5400RPM HD.
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I just bought a Mac Mini (2.6GHz and Fusion Drive) instead of the iMac. I have no desire for the 27" screen and the 21.5" model requires $450 in upgrades (from the cheapest model) just to get the Fusion Drive, otherwise you are stuck with the 5400RPM HD that is no good for video editing. Was a very frustrating process but at least now I have a great computer and better yet, have a 24" monitor (DELL) that I prefer over the iMac options. iMac is still amazing, but the 21.5" model is very overpriced unless you are OK with the 5400RPM HD.
You've clearly never had to carry one to an Apple store for repair. It's at times like that that I'm glad I got the 21.5"!
Apple's offering for the use case youre describing is an ipad ($329, $499), or mac mini ($599). but if you insist on an wintel PC, i hope you enjoy doing tech support for years to come...i dont, which i why i moved my folks off troublesome windoze machines.
dramatic, much?
Why does a desktop need to be anything but?
Screen size is a limit; can't make that any shorter or narrower than the user will tolerate. Those of us getting the 27"er won't settle for less than a huge screen.
That aside, what hard limits on size are there? Most users are quite satisfied with something that's little more than a big-screen notebook. Few will ever upgrade any components; RAM being by far the most likely, and storage well served by USB or networked devices.
In the interest of persuading customers into the future of computing, obsolete peripherals get dropped. Galled me that my last computer (abandoned just 2 months ago) wasted desk space on floppy drives, parallel ports, empty drive bays, and other never-used interfaces. Take away everything I didn't need, and what I could do without most of the time, and the whole thing would just about disappear from my desk. And so
is doing just that: eliminating what the vast majority of their customers don't want and don't use. Insofar as I do use optical media, at this point it's just to rip it so I can deep-storage the space-consuming boxes; once that job is done, leaving a portable DVD drive in a drawer will more than satisfy further needs (just like my 3.5" Floppy USB drive - available if needed, but would rather it not be built into the computer). My one gripe with the new design is putting the SD card slot in the back, far from the edges. Non-phone/tablet cameras are still common, and their physical media remains the most convenient way to transfer pictures. That said, maybe I'll try the Eye-Fi solution.
Yes, there is a niche which needs real flexibility and/or power. Given they're maybe 1% of the market,
is sensibly content to focus on high profits from the remaining 99%.iMac, new markets
I think apple knows its already got the home user and upgraders as iMac buyers, no matter what it looks like. I think Apple is probably looking at expanding into and broadening new markets with this design, and that's why this design makes total sense. This design would look damn good in small businesses and offices where the machine is visible from the sides and back. Also, any computer lab in a school or college campus is going to look ultra-modern and have parents signing their kids up instantly with labs equipped with the "latest tech".
And museums and gift shops? Apple has just made a sale of one or more of the new iMacs to every one of these places globally. I think this will be a huge move for iMac sales....
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I think apple knows its already got the home user and upgraders as iMac buyers, no matter what it looks like. I think Apple is probably looking at expanding into and broadening new markets with this design, and that's why this design makes total sense. This design would look damn good in small businesses and offices where the machine is visible from the sides and back. Also, any computer lab in a school or college campus is going to look ultra-modern and have parents signing their kids up instantly with labs equipped with the "latest tech".
And museums and gift shops? Apple has just made a sale of one or more of the new iMacs to every one of these places globally. I think this will be a huge move for iMac sales....
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Apple doesn't give two craps about the Mac Pro or professionals. I used to think Apple would do something with the Mac Pro line as well. Then months of waiting turned into years and I got fed up and just got a MacBook Pro hooked up to a 24" Dell Ultrasharp.
Youre in for a long wait if you think Apple is going to do anything with the Mac Pro. At this rate, it almost looks like theyre not going to do anything at all and just kill off the Mac Pro and put all their efforts into iToys and other mainstream garbage.
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Does anyone know where I can get the wallpaper on the right? (the green one)
And does anyone know where the photo was taken / what it is?
You should look at refurbs or even used. Refurbs don't last long, though. (I mean availability)
Way to completely not read the post you replied to.
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As opposed to what? School, that costs hundreds per year? Clothing? A dog? Good lord.
Haha, your post speaks the truth and what also speaks the truth is the latest Samsung ad where the two people are sitting at the bus stop gaming on a GS3 and an iPhone 5. All the iPhone guy does is complain about the screen size and glare. The old lady says, "You Like To Whine". I took some offense to that but the truth is all Apple forums ever do is whine. Competitors never have anything great to offer (other than good specs) until they get a clue from Apple's products on how it should be done.
I'm excited. I had long resigned myself that my current Duo Core non-glossy iMac would be my last.
But the anti-glare on the new one gives me hope - although I'd have to see it in person.
But the question for me is, can I install Snow Leopard on it?
But the anti-glare on the new one gives me hope - although I'd have to see it in person.
But the question for me is, can I install Snow Leopard on it?
I am tempted to buy the 27inch to replace my mid 2010 iMac the only thing stopping me is the non retina display which I can see happening with software starting to move that like Firefox.
Assuming you have Mountain Lion installed...
[Macintosh HD] > System > Library > Frameworks > Screensaver.framework > Versions > A > Resources > Default Collections > 1-National Geographic > NatGeo04.jpg
Rice fields in China, most likely in area of Guilin.
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i'll be waiting for the 27 inch , the more people buy it now, the less people will buy the 27 inch
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imac doesnt have a retina display...
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imac doesnt have a retina display...
5400RPM is perfectly fine for video editing.
Source: Most of the BBC's editing dept Mac Pros have 5400RPM HDs, plus every employee MBP is 5400.
Whatever claims apple makes, I would take with a grain of salt.
Their last update to the Mac Pro could hardly be called an update. I expect Apple to do very little or nothing at all. The history speaks for itself.
You don't know that the ram is soldered in any more than the HD's are soldered in
Are you in denial or something?
Newly slimmer Mac Pros?
Next thing we'll know is Apple will either pull the Mac Pro completely or create a new slim version welded shut so you can't upgrade it using a newly untested for mass production friction based self welding process!
Good moves
Drop ADB for USB
Drop Floppy Disk Drive (for USB sticks and email?)
Move to using Intel CPUs
Easy upgradable MacBook Pros (ever tried replacing an iBook hard drive!)
Bad Moves
Killing Front Row from 10.7 onwards
Non upgradable design of Retina MacBook Pros
Dropping a real server based OS (10.6) for 'kiddy' home sharing software in the form of unstable 10.7 and 10.8 "Server" *
Dropping a real server piece of hardware **
Nabbing trademark names like Lightning ***
I can see the logic in the MacBook Air, we all can. It's an ultra portable laptop. The mini, well it was the perfect home cinema system, even without a BlueRay drive. But removing the optical drive and charging the same price? Do we really need expensive Retina display laptops? HD (1920 x 1080 or thereabouts in 8:5 ratio) would suffice on a 13" but lets face it this is a "form over function" (ok, really a let's see what we can do over what's beneficial and really practical and needed). And this brings me back full circle to the new unavailable iMac... form over function, like so many people have said.
"The new revolutionary iMac. It's slimmer than before and ever less accessible and upgradable (and repairable - even by Apple engineers) than the Retina MacBook Pros. Truely revolutionary."
* what server OS is running iCloud services and file & print services on Apple's business networks?
** what server hardware is Apple using for the above? Dell and HP servers running virtualised OSX 10.6 Servers connected to fibre storage?
*** Watch out Thor and Raijin!!!
Next thing we'll know is Apple will either pull the Mac Pro completely or create a new slim version welded shut so you can't upgrade it using a newly untested for mass production friction based self welding process!
Good moves
Drop ADB for USB
Drop Floppy Disk Drive (for USB sticks and email?)
Move to using Intel CPUs
Easy upgradable MacBook Pros (ever tried replacing an iBook hard drive!)
Bad Moves
Killing Front Row from 10.7 onwards
Non upgradable design of Retina MacBook Pros
Dropping a real server based OS (10.6) for 'kiddy' home sharing software in the form of unstable 10.7 and 10.8 "Server" *
Dropping a real server piece of hardware **
Nabbing trademark names like Lightning ***
I can see the logic in the MacBook Air, we all can. It's an ultra portable laptop. The mini, well it was the perfect home cinema system, even without a BlueRay drive. But removing the optical drive and charging the same price? Do we really need expensive Retina display laptops? HD (1920 x 1080 or thereabouts in 8:5 ratio) would suffice on a 13" but lets face it this is a "form over function" (ok, really a let's see what we can do over what's beneficial and really practical and needed). And this brings me back full circle to the new unavailable iMac... form over function, like so many people have said.
"The new revolutionary iMac. It's slimmer than before and ever less accessible and upgradable (and repairable - even by Apple engineers) than the Retina MacBook Pros. Truely revolutionary."
* what server OS is running iCloud services and file & print services on Apple's business networks?
** what server hardware is Apple using for the above? Dell and HP servers running virtualised OSX 10.6 Servers connected to fibre storage?
*** Watch out Thor and Raijin!!!
