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Though the mini looks a bit tricky, what could be easier than Apple's implementations of adding memory? The iMac has two screws on the bottom and a slot for the memory. The MacBook has three screws with access to both RAM slots and the hard drive. The Mac Pro, remove the side. Not uh...not sure what you want here. The only thing easier would probably be a slot load drive like the DVD. You add memory..once to a computer to max it out? Not really getting it.
Well it's not rocket science to service these things, but it sure could be a whole lot easier.

The iMac has changed the location of it's memory at least twice (three times now?), and none of them are that accessible. Taking a reasonably heavy 24" iMac and tossing it on it's face on the table (put down a towel first or you'll scratch it!), two extra tiny screws to release the panel on the bottom edge and about fifteen minutes fiddling with those silly rubber circles. I have done it lots of times but it doesn't compare to the Mac Pro.

The mini needs shims to get it open and although I am fairly deft, opening an easily scratched plastic case with shims without scratching it is next to impossible. There's no reason in the world the mini couldn't be as easy to open as say.. an Apple TV. It's almost the same form factor anyway.

I guess you could say it's a slight improvement from the iMac G4 which needed a special screwdriver as well as dealing with heat conducting paste just to add memory? Or the extremely heavy, rounded iMac G3 that had to be flipped on it's back? Come to think of it has there ever been an iMac that doesn't require you to flip over it's weirdly shaped bulky self, and put it screen down (!) on the workbench to get at the memory?

I didn't really include the laptops in my comment, but now that you mention it, have you tried changing the memory on a MacBook lately? Having it under the keyboard on previous models was brilliant. Taking out the battery and that little shim-corner thingie with the three screws and then pulling the cards out of the side slots is NOT an improvement. It's nice that you can get at the hard drive easier, but everything else is a step backward.

Don't get me wrong, I love Apple's designs, but I think it's a pretty well-known fact that these original designs are not as practical to service as a tower. The Mac Pro made huge advances in serviceability last time, it would be nice to see a bit of that with the iMacs is all I am saying. Several people have posted on this very thread as to how cool it would be to have pluggable SATA drives on the iMac like on the Pro, so it can't be just me that's thinking this.
 
Copied from another thread - just a data point to show how out of whack Apple prices are for the low end systems....

  • HP minitower - $1050 for 3 GiB RAM (up to 8GiB), 2.4 GHz quad core, 1066 MHz bus, 400GB, 16x DL lightscribe superdrive, 7.1 audio with digital audio in/out, 19" LCD, integrated graphics with open x16 PCIe slot for upgrade, two open x1 PCIe slots, open 3.5" disk bay, open 5.25" DVD/disk bay, 2yr warranty, 16.3x6.9x15.2 inches (1709 in³) ...
  • iMac - $1500 for 1 GiB RAM (up to 3GiB), 2.16 GHz dual core, 667 MHz bus, 250 GB, 8x DL superdrive, 20" LCD, ATI X1600 (not upgradeable), no expansion, 1yr warranty ($2299 with dual core 2.33 and 3 GiB)
  • MacPro - $2200 for 1 GiB RAM (up to 16Gib), 2.0 GHz quad core (dual dual), 1333 MHz bus, 250 GB, 16x DL superdrive, digital audio in/out, no LCD, 7300 GT 256 MiB, 3 open PCIe slots, 3 open 3.5" bays, 1 open 5.25" bay, 1 yr warranty, 20.1x8.1x18.7 inches (3045 in³), 42 lbs ($2999 with quad (dual-dual) 2.66 GHz and 3 GiB)

The second price on the Macs is when you add BTO options to come close to the CPU speed and memory of the $929^H^H^H^H $879 HP.

If Apple doesn't come out with a reasonable Mini-Tower tomorrow, I'm changing my .sig. Actually, if Apple does come out with a Mini-tower tomorrow I'll need to change my sig as well.


(full specs for HP A6152N) (link to full ad)

I appreciate the honesty in this post and wish I saw more of these on this forum. The new iMac prices are definitely rubbing me the wrong way as is. I have no doubt that they'll be spectacular to look at, but the fact is that when you compare it to some other products like the one quoted above, sometimes it takes more than aesthetics to sway someone who's on the line.

I love macs because of their reliability, the operating system, and the security. I *don't* love them because I believe they're actually cheaper than the PC equivalent. Either way I'm really eager to see what happens tomorrow.
 
Okay Steve, its now tuesday the 7th, so roll on 20.00 european time and the new imac's.Its been a bloody long wait.Lets hope it was worth waiting for.
 
Maybe all or at least some of the new Macs will include custom H.264 encoding processors. That would definitely accelerate Apple's vision for home video and help move the Apple TV. I mean even on powerful machines video encoding is not quick.

Dedicated H.264 processors will give the Mac a similar advantage to the PC as the Amiga did over the Mac and PC back in the '80s and early '90s.
This would be great for me as I am hoping for a Mac Pro update. If they put this capability in the iMac, they pretty much *have* to put them in the Pro, and that means a new motherboard (I hope/think). :)
 
Love to see a minitower

I agree... I'd love to see a minitower or something like it. iMacs are great, but I like to have some expandability and ease of upgrade.

I went out shopping and I hate to admit it, but I came back with with an HP m8125n (Canadian model) - small tower with 2GB of RAM, 400 GB hard drive, 16X DVD-RW lightscribe, removable hard drive bay, DVI out, etc. - and a 22" HP high contrast swiveling (portrait-landscape) screen. After tax, only $1561 Cdn. A pretty fair price. Not quite as aesthetically astute as Macs, but given HP's new gloss black designs - not too bad at all.

My university is still pretty much Windows driven, so there are some things I can't get away from. Yes, I know there's Boot Camp, VMWare, Parallels, etc., but if I have to go to that extent to run a significant number of Windows programs, I might as well just stay with a Windows machine. I asked my wife if she wanted to install one of those programs on her iMac, but she said quite pointedly, "No, doesn't that sort of defeat the point?" Uhh... true...

Sure, I know it's Vista (boo!), but you know, I think I'm getting a little fed up with arguing about operating systems. After a while, it seems like they're all about the same as long as they get the job done... my XP systems (other than being slower than my PowerBook) are okay.

Of course... if a Mac tablet comes around... hey, I'm in! :D
 
New Cinema Displays! New Cinema Displays! It's the oldest Apple hardware in the line and needs and update for us Mac Pro users! C'mon Jobs, get with it (and I'm surprised more people haven't mentioned this fact)...
 
If you look at the original picture, you'll see it's from MacRumors. Certainly looks that way. All other ads are in Spanish, this one along is in English. Surely more than one member here is from a Spanish speaking country and we would have widespread posting here. But let's assume we do only have one and even if that one user spotted it, surely the grab would have still been posted here first rather than to flickr.

It's not spanish, it's italian. I take spanish in high school; that's not spanish. And it translated as italian in babel fish.
 
My hopes for tomorrow:

(1) Quad-Core iMacs (Intel Q6600/Q6700) with support for 8gig of ram
(2) Cheaper, updated Mac Minis
(3) Price drops on Mac Pro, additional 8-core options
(3) Cheap .Mac with updated services
(4) $99 .Mac with 100+ gig of storage

and the bonus item:

(5) Closeout sale on existing Minis at our campus bookstore!

Actually, if I get even one or two of these, I'll be happy...:)
 
Copied from another thread - just a data point to show how out of whack Apple prices are for the low end systems....

  • HP minitower - $1050 for 3 GiB RAM (up to 8GiB), 2.4 GHz quad core, 1066 MHz bus, 400GB, 16x DL lightscribe superdrive, 7.1 audio with digital audio in/out, 19" LCD, integrated graphics with open x16 PCIe slot for upgrade, two open x1 PCIe slots, open 3.5" disk bay, open 5.25" DVD/disk bay, 2yr warranty, 16.3x6.9x15.2 inches (1709 in³) ...
  • iMac - $1500 for 1 GiB RAM (up to 3GiB), 2.16 GHz dual core, 667 MHz bus, 250 GB, 8x DL superdrive, 20" LCD, ATI X1600 (not upgradeable), no expansion, 1yr warranty ($2299 with dual core 2.33 and 3 GiB)
  • MacPro - $2200 for 1 GiB RAM (up to 16Gib), 2.0 GHz quad core (dual dual), 1333 MHz bus, 250 GB, 16x DL superdrive, digital audio in/out, no LCD, 7300 GT 256 MiB, 3 open PCIe slots, 3 open 3.5" bays, 1 open 5.25" bay, 1 yr warranty, 20.1x8.1x18.7 inches (3045 in³), 42 lbs ($2999 with quad (dual-dual) 2.66 GHz and 3 GiB)

The second price on the Macs is when you add BTO options to come close to the CPU speed and memory of the $929^H^H^H^H $879 HP.

Once again you leave out the fine print Aiden..

From your specs link :

Memory Installed 3 GB
Maximum allowed 8 GB (4 x 2 GB) (64-bit OS) note the HP doesnt come with Vista or XP 64-bit..Add on $400 for that if you want to have 8 GB of RAM

4 GB* (4 x 1 GB) (32-bit OS)

*Actual available memory may be less ( due to integrated graphics )

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NO Wireless...Need to buy a 802.11n card---Add $59
Integrated graphics SUCKS need to buy a comperable video card--Add $249
The 19" monitor is cheap compared to the 20" and 24" in the iMac. so you'd have to buy a decent 20" or 24"/23" LCD--Add $349
Add $400 for 64-bit Vista
The graphics port on the back is VGA :rolleyes:

So to actually bring the HP up to par with what will come out tomorrow you'd have to spend $1049 ( then wait 6 months for the rebate ) plus $59 plus $249 plus $349 plus $400 which comes up to $2106.00


Oh ya..

Then you'd have to deal with Windoze.Anti-virus programs etc..
 
im betting that tomorrow is just an announcement of the new imac release, which will be released the same day as leopard.
 
Cazzata

That's Italian, brah. Not Spanish.

Corretto!!!
Right, so here is the help from Caput Mundi: CAZZATA = BULLSH*T
Basically if you keep clicking the various links in the forum, it says they did it only to see how many s*ckers would believe it.

Sorry not even worth the translation.

P.S.
I know I should replace my i and u keys
 
Hallo,

My name are Robirt Firstoffamavichcovsky and I am work for Apple.

Tomorrow big day. Pleaz let splain to you.

Number won....new eyemac.

number too.... giant ieypod

and finally.....dotmac merge with Google cloud.

thankyoo.

(enough already)

that was really funny the more i read it the harder i laughed.
i am hoping for a option to upgrade the imacs to 2.6GHZ it might not bepossible but i can imagine:D

i love:apple:
i love :apple: products
 
Ditto - $ burning a hole in my pocket... will be disappointed if they aren't available immediately! I plan to buy more than 2gb ram tho - i've been using 1.5 and Aperture needs more than 2gb me thinks.

Yeah! I've already pushed my macbook c2d 2ghz to the limit! Time for my first apple desktop! Wait.... wait.... should I wait for Leopard? Hmmm....
 
who am i kidding, without apple there would be no copycat ipods (zune) and still have clunky pc's

on a more serious note..this morning a close friend to steve jobs has told me that he will indeed announce a new imac which is being rumored. also the new imacs will come with the new sleek keyboard and mighty mouse. the imacs will be able to play blu ray and hd dvds just like the lg superblue players
 
Prior MacWorld Intel 1-27-07 article

I don't know how far in advance the processor development time is but the above referenced article says that 5 penryn chip versions were already in production and tested on 4 or 5 operating systems with corresponding apps. With desktop sale percentages relatively dropping it is imperative apple take the lead now in implementing the penryn processors rather than have to up date after others certainly will by fall making its competition even rougher in a shrinking sector of computer sales.
 
on a more serious note..this morning a close friend to steve jobs has told me that he will indeed announce a new imac which is being rumored. also the new imacs will come with the new sleek keyboard and mighty mouse. the imacs will be able to play blu ray and hd dvds just like the lg superblue players
i hope they will able to play blue ray discs that would be awesome




i would love to see the faces of pc users if that happend they allways have to arguements about how ps is better. HAHAA top built in blue ray. and we wouldn't have to pay another $1000 for the drive. HAHA i really hope that happeneds
 
Doesn't shipping time usually change if a product change is imminent?

(ie. didn't the MacBook and MBP change to a few days on the eve of their update?)

Makes me think the iMac might not be available tomorrow. :(
 
youre wrong, i think its 5pm (7 hours difference). still means ill have to wait until wednesday to go to bluewater to check out the new product/s!

No, the original poster was right. It's 6pm London time. London's uTC+1 (for DST) and California is UTC-7 (also DST). A total of 8 hours. Or 6pm.
 
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