Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
New iMacs on Tuesday?
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Sure, the low end $999 price seems to be gone, but still... how can a (rumoured) drop from $1999 to $1799 be considered to be an elevation?!...
It is not done for a cost reason. It is to try and get you buy the next model up.
False. Outdated graphics would be ridiculous. Integrated just mean it is printed on the same board. Apple used to integrate RAM. The future is to integrate graphic processing onto the same silicon as the CPU.
Not a chance, that would be commercial suicide. They'd not sell a single iMac for the next 1-2 months until the release. I don't think a major company is that stupid.
Laugh all you want. You will regret it in a few hours, when Jobs unveils the new iMac. And it will look just like this mock up
Laugh all you want. You will regret it in a few hours, when Jobs unveils the new iMac. And it will look just like this mock up
Then I won't buy it.
To add to these fine comments:
And I'll add "can't justify or perhaps afford it".
Some models of Hondas and Toyotas are basically the same as their much higher priced Acura and Lexus cousins. Some people don't want or need the heated power butt-washers or whatever - so the Hondas and Toyotas sell.
Ummm, we are talking about an entry system here, and comparing it with an iMac that has *never* supported more memory than the $879 HP comes with as standard.
Also, the important thing about the memory is that the minitower and motherboard support 4 DDR2 DIMM slots. While this allows for a max of 8 GiB using 2 GiB DIMMs, the more important thing for the entry is that cheaper smaller DIMMs can be used.
The 3 GiB is 2x1GiB + 2x512MiB - which can easily be found for $120 online and probably far less at the volumes that HP buys. A single 2 GiB DIMM is about $100 online - quite a bit more than the price for two 1 GiB DIMMs.
Once again, you leave out the facts.
Vista Home Premium 64-bit - $114.99
And you'll qualify for the OEM price if you buy the x64 kit along with the $400 to $500 that the 8 GiB will cost you.
But anyway, the 64-bit issue is moot - my sister won't need even 2 GiB....
Nope, don't need wireless. Office is wired, and wireless sucks for performance compared to a Cat5 cable.
Let's see, you think that the 128 MiB X1600 chip in the iMac is comparable to a GeForce 8600GTS 256MiB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - since that one can be purchased for $240? Or perhaps a Radeon X1950XT 256MiB GDDR3 AGP 8X HDCP Video Card for $260?
And, integrated graphics are pretty good for most tasks and most people - and the HP has the newest GMA3100.... It's DX9c and has video decode offload engines.
I think that you're dreaming up stuff to jack up the price of the HP....
And the great thing is that I *can* buy a different monitor!
Anyway, you haven't even seen the HP, so perhaps you don't know that it's pretty good, and it's a big jump up from what my sister has now.
Still harping on that?
__________________________________________
Actually, though, I have upgraded the system a little.
So my $1050 HP is now a full Media Center for $1477 - still less than the iMac.
And I'll add "can't justify or perhaps afford it".
Some models of Hondas and Toyotas are basically the same as their much higher priced Acura and Lexus cousins. Some people don't want or need the heated power butt-washers or whatever - so the Hondas and Toyotas sell.
Ummm, we are talking about an entry system here, and comparing it with an iMac that has *never* supported more memory than the $879 HP comes with as standard.
Also, the important thing about the memory is that the minitower and motherboard support 4 DDR2 DIMM slots. While this allows for a max of 8 GiB using 2 GiB DIMMs, the more important thing for the entry is that cheaper smaller DIMMs can be used.
The 3 GiB is 2x1GiB + 2x512MiB - which can easily be found for $120 online and probably far less at the volumes that HP buys. A single 2 GiB DIMM is about $100 online - quite a bit more than the price for two 1 GiB DIMMs.
Once again, you leave out the facts.
Vista Home Premium 64-bit - $114.99
And you'll qualify for the OEM price if you buy the x64 kit along with the $400 to $500 that the 8 GiB will cost you.
But anyway, the 64-bit issue is moot - my sister won't need even 2 GiB....
Nope, don't need wireless. Office is wired, and wireless sucks for performance compared to a Cat5 cable.
Let's see, you think that the 128 MiB X1600 chip in the iMac is comparable to a GeForce 8600GTS 256MiB GDDR3 PCI Express x16 HDCP Video Card - since that one can be purchased for $240? Or perhaps a Radeon X1950XT 256MiB GDDR3 AGP 8X HDCP Video Card for $260?
And, integrated graphics are pretty good for most tasks and most people - and the HP has the newest GMA3100.... It's DX9c and has video decode offload engines.
I think that you're dreaming up stuff to jack up the price of the HP....
And the great thing is that I *can* buy a different monitor!
Anyway, you haven't even seen the HP, so perhaps you don't know that it's pretty good, and it's a big jump up from what my sister has now.
Still harping on that?
__________________________________________
Actually, though, I have upgraded the system a little.
- $113 - 512 MiB GDDR2 nVidia GeForce 8500 GT x16 PCIe graphics (VGA+DVI+TVout) - silent Asus EN8500GT - no fan
- $210 - 750 GB Seagate Barracuda for 2nd internal drive slot (1.15 TB total disk) -- for $200 added to the iMac, you'd get a total of 500GB
- $104 - AverTV PCIe NTSC/ATSC/QAM TV/cable/digitalcable tuner w/ MCE remote - http://www.aver.com/mpd/combopcie_mce.html
So my $1050 HP is now a full Media Center for $1477 - still less than the iMac.
Apple is not going to ship a mac with a beta version of it's software, this would go against the mac design mentality completely. This is not Windows world here.
New enough not to remember the iMac G4->G5 transition? At least 2 months no iMacs available AT ALL! Apple had no back-up plan, just stopped making the G4, and announced 'G5 aint ready, oops, instead of a price drop, or a RAM boost or even a colour change or just ANYthing, we'll just sell nothing till it's ready' (Supply issues, hence the eventual intel thing.)
So: "I don't think a major company is that stupid"... It has been before...
Only 4 hours to go till the Flower Power & Blue Dalmation 24" iMac Core 2 Duo!
New enough not to remember the iMac G4->G5 transition? At least 2 months no iMacs available AT ALL! Apple had no back-up plan, just stopped making the G4, and announced 'G5 aint ready, oops, instead of a price drop, or a RAM boost or even a colour change or just ANYthing, we'll just sell nothing till it's ready' (Supply issues, hence the eventual intel thing.)
So: "I don't think a major company is that stupid"... It has been before...
Only 4 hours to go till the Flower Power & Blue Dalmation 24" iMac Core 2 Duo!
All the more reason not to do it this time around.
i love how simple this is. really is more like art than it is a computer.
ugly-impractical-cheaply built-enormous art, that is.
i will take two please.