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all jobs is going to announce is how well his iphone is doing, and maybe MAYBE a small update to .mac

oh and a brand new leather case for the iphone

and probally a new mac vs. pc commercial...hasnt been one in a while
 
Everyone is allowed to their opinion and true it is all speculation but I don't think me saying that Leopard will be included in the new iMac's and anything else that comes out is that far fetched. Curtainly not the most far fetched thing posted in this thread. If it is is would provide the "WOW" factor to the event.

No offense, but we usually get word of OS releases "nearing final" and "gone golden master" before they really ship... too many stories of bugs in current betas
 
Here's how it's gonna go down.

The new iMac is a full touchscreen interface, like the iPhone. It is an ultra-thin panel that pops off of its base and becomes a touch-interfaced tablet computer.

So what you're saying is, people are going to be cradling a 24" screen in their arms while using multi-touch? Please think logically.
 
all jobs is going to announce is how well his iphone is doing, and maybe MAYBE a small update to .mac

oh and a brand new leather case for the iphone

and probally a new mac vs. pc commercial...hasnt been one in a while

Ive been wanting a new leather case!
 
From: tim@apple.com
Subject: Apple August 7 Event
Date: August 5, 2007 6:13:15 PM MST
To: tipline@gmail.com
I think this is fake. I do not see Apple getting rid of the Mac mini without putting something in its place. Apple will either update the Mac mini, or as I believe, replace it with a mini-tower starting at $999. If Apple is going to keep the mini then I can see them using "old" technology to keep it an entry-level Mac, which might be the reason why it wasn't touched in so long.

This update:
  • Mac mini gets a 65nm Core 2 Duo (no Santa Rosa)
  • iMac, Mac Pro, MacBook Pro get the 45nm "Penryn"
  • MacBook gets Santa Rosa (still 65nm Core 2 Duo)

Next update:
  • Mac mini gets Santa Rosa (still 65nm Core 2 Duo)
  • iMac, Mac Pro, MacBook Pro get speed bump and maybe extras like BTO Blu-ray
  • MacBook gets "Penryn"

Update after next:
  • Mac mini gets "Penryn"
  • iMac, Mac Pro, MacBook Pro get next chipset "Montecito"(?)
  • MacBook gets speed bump

I think you get the idea.
 
Ok, let's say that the new iMac's are announced today. (I have my hopes up as much as everyone else, but until Steve says "look at our new iMacs" at the event it's all still up in the air.)

But from the past releases of redesigned iMacs (and other redesigned products) what is the general shipping time for them? I'm curious because if/when the iMacs are announced today, AND if they are available for purchase today, I'd want to know where to ship the computer. I'm heading down to school next Wednesday, August 15th, and if the shipping is going to be a week or two then it'd need to be shipped to school. If Apple prepares for the onslaught of purchases and the shipping is 24 hours, then I could ship it to my home.

Again just curious if there were any shipping delays and such when new products have been released in Apple's past.

Thanks in advance.

Torrid
 
Ok, let's say that the new iMac's are announced today. (I have my hopes up as much as everyone else, but until Steve says "look at our new iMacs" at the event it's all still up in the air.)

But from the past releases of redesigned iMacs (and other redesigned products) what is the general shipping time for them? I'm curious because if/when the iMacs are announced today, AND if they are available for purchase today, I'd want to know where to ship the computer. I'm heading down to school next Wednesday, August 15th, and if the shipping is going to be a week or two then it'd need to be shipped to school. If Apple prepares for the onslaught of purchases and the shipping is 24 hours, then I could ship it to my home.

Again just curious if there were any shipping delays and such when new products have been released in Apple's past.

Thanks in advance.

Torrid
At least a week. 2 if you CTO.
 
So what you're saying is, people are going to be cradling a 24" screen in their arms while using multi-touch? Please think logically.

First, tablets are not the same as laptops. They have a variety of applications, and someone like a graphic artist would kill for a 24" touchscreen. IIRC, Apple does sometimes like to cater to graphic artists, no?

Second, if you couldn't tell, I was detailing a pie-in-the-sky scenario. It would be awesome if Apple could do all the things I listed, but I kinda doubt they'll go that far. Of course, I'll be totally let down if they don't do even more than what I described. :D
 
Well, one hour to go.

I've got to be in the pub an hour after that, so I hope some details get out quickly.

I'm with the more conservative predictions posted here, although I suspect the hard drive space will be higher than the 160GB people think the low end will have. Also SuperDrive throughout. BluRay option on the 24". 8400GS/8600GT graphics.

Ah, beer in two hours! How good will that be? A pint of Old Peculiar, and maybe some Woodfordes Wherry... mmm iMac what?
 
all jobs is going to announce is how well his iphone is doing, and maybe MAYBE a small update to .mac

oh and a brand new leather case for the iphone

and probally a new mac vs. pc commercial...hasnt been one in a while
This is an "all Mac" event. High probability of .mac update, as SJ admitted that it had been neglected and needed updating, and the service is now down. High probability of iMac update with new form factor, hopefully Penryn.
 
I think this is fake. I do not see Apple getting rid of the Mac mini without putting something in its place. Apple will either update the Mac mini, or as I believe, replace it with a mini-tower starting at $999. If Apple is going to keep the mini then I can see them using "old" technology to keep it an entry-level Mac, which might be the reason why it wasn't touched in so long.

This update:
  • Mac mini gets a 65nm Core 2 Duo (no Santa Rosa)
  • iMac, Mac Pro, MacBook Pro get the 45nm "Penryn"
  • MacBook gets Santa Rosa (still 65nm Core 2 Duo)

Next update:
  • Mac mini gets Santa Rosa (still 65nm Core 2 Duo)
  • iMac, Mac Pro, MacBook Pro get speed bump and maybe extras like BTO Blu-ray
  • MacBook gets "Penryn"

Update after next:
  • Mac mini gets "Penryn"
  • iMac, Mac Pro, MacBook Pro get next chipset "Montecito"(?)
  • MacBook gets speed bump

I think you get the idea.
Sounds about right to me.
 
If Apple made a mini-tower with basic desktop specs, it would compete with the low-end to medium iMacs, yet be more expensive and have not as good quality parts. If they made a good mini-tower it would compete with the high end iMac and the Mac Pro. None of this makes much sense to me.

The only possibility I can see is a low-end mini tower to replace the Mini itself; a sort of ultra-low-budget Mac. But then why would they do that? And on top of everything, this assumes that Apple is ready and willing to write drivers for every low-budget crap video card on the market.
The reason I think Apple will release a mini-tower is because games are making a comeback to the Mac and gamers are going to want to be able to swap out their current graphics card for a newer one so they can play the latest games or play games with all the settings set to their maximum. Apple doesn't need to write drivers for every low-budget crap video card on the market, but there is no reason why they can't give users a choice of five cards. They could use the ones in the iMac, plus a couple more, which shouldn't be a problem.
 
I really hope everything they announce today is available immediately - I can see some journos running to the nearest store after this. :)
 
  • iMac, Mac Pro, MacBook Pro get the 45nm "Penryn"
Prepare to be disappointed. Intel's public timeframe for Penryn is limited quantities in Q4 2007 and full production in Q1 2008. Apple doesn't get to start early just because they're Apple since then Intel would be accused of providing false information to investors and be in hot water with the SEC.
 
Apple doesn't need to write drivers for every low-budget crap video card on the market, but there is no reason why they can't give users a choice of five cards. They could use the ones in the iMac, plus a couple more, which shouldn't be a problem.

On the Windows side, one nVidia driver covers about all of the GeForce cards, due to their NVIDIA® ForceWare® Unified Driver Architecture (UDA).


A few ancient cards aren't supported by the single driver.
 
It will SUCK if Mac Mini doesn't get Santa rosa. The improved graphics of santa rosa are such a big improvement for integrated graphics. I hope you are wrong :)
 
you guys are ridiculous.. it's fun to speculate, but just about every prediction is way outside of reality and apple's nature.


you won't see leopard. PERIOD.

you won't see revolutionary interface changes.

you won't see a simple rehash with nothing but new material used for the enclosure.


you will see the slimmest all-in-one desktop machine ever produced (think macbook pro thin) with the sleekest and most simple design yet. LED monitor, Santa Rosa chipset.

There will be much drooling.


Yes there will be much drooling. Appleinsider says that they machines will be available today at retail locations. That so? If it is, I am 10 minutes from the Apple Store and I will be down there in a flash buying the new iMac that I have been waiting for.
 
Utter iPhone fanboy rubbish ;)

They need to put the focus back on their computers and this event will presumably do that.


attend an apple meeting and tell me I'm a fanboy.


anyway, these (imacs) should be available soon, but you won't see them displayed properly in retail locations for a few days.
 
This place is famous for assuming everyone should want Mac OS X, making Apple exempt from offering an affordable and VIABLE (yes, not the worthless mini folks) solution for customers to break into the Mac world. These famous people are also know as apologists.
It's also famous for people assuming that because THEY want a cheap, ugly box to run OS X that Apple should make it for them. It's a mistake to believe that everyone should want OS X or that a Mac is right for everyone. It's equally mistaken to expect a plain minitower from Apple.
Some models of Hondas and Toyotas are basically the same as their much higher priced Acura and Lexus cousins. Some people don't want or need the heated power butt-washers or whatever - so the Hondas and Toyotas sell.
And so do the Acuras and Lexuses. They're not losing sleep over capturing bottom-dollar Toyota customers. Not only would it be disastrously unsuccessful, but it would damage their image, which is frankly more valuable in this society than a few customers who buy an HP instead.
Once again, you leave out the facts.

Vista Home Premium 64-bit - $114.99
I agree that the quoted $400 was a mistake on his part, but you're leaving out just as much as he did. You are comparing a retail price to add-ons from OEM sources. It's true that low-cost OEM and discount goods are available on PCs that Apple cannot compete with. However, upgrading to Ultimate costs $160 from HP and it stands to reason that 64-bit edition would be more than that.
Nope, don't need wireless. Office is wired, and wireless sucks for performance compared to a Cat5 cable.
Whether you need it or not, it's there. Tailoring a system to fit your needs is exactly what you should do, and it sounds like there's not a Mac for you. That doesn't mean that throwing out random pieces and ignoring value-added elements allows you to make a comparison that makes any sense. Even if there are ten thousand people who agree with you, there are at least that many who disagree or don't care.
And the great thing is that I *can* buy a different monitor!
Nothing is stopping you from that in either case. It's not a substantial deterrent--the panels are not more than 10-15% of the overall sales price. A 10% discount wouldn't enable you to buy a separate display, so you get the included one. If you want to add one later, just do it. The fact of the matter is that when you get rid of the computer, most of the parts in it are perfectly fine. There's little sense in resisting commoditization. Displays are no longer a significant investment until you get into the high end.
On the Windows side, one nVidia driver covers about all of the GeForce cards, due to their NVIDIA® ForceWare® Unified Driver Architecture (UDA).
It's illusory to believe there's a single driver in the installer. There's no magical path to hardware support, even when using a number of shared modules and standardized conventions. The true benefit of Forceware is simply logistic--customers download a single package, which includes support for their product. The software simply contains the most up-to-date drivers in a single package. It is not the case, however, that new drivers written for new cards will magically work on other, older products.
 
I agree that the quoted $400 was a mistake on his part, but you're leaving out just as much as he did. You are comparing a retail price to add-ons from OEM sources. It's true that low-cost OEM and discount goods are available on PCs that Apple cannot compete with. However, upgrading to Ultimate costs $160 from HP and it stands to reason that 64-bit edition would be more than that.

The $114 is a complete 64-bit OEM installation kit, not an add-on.

What does Ultimate have to do with anything?


It's illusory to believe there's a single driver in the installer. There's no magical path to hardware support, even when using a number of shared modules and standardized conventions.

Perhaps you should check the Linux source files:

http://www.nvidia.com/object/LO_20030328_6790.html

Unified Driver Architecture (UDA)Enables the industry’s highest quality software for NVIDIA GPUs
  • Single driver binary for 200+ NVIDIA products
 
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