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New iMacs Shipping January 2009?

themoonisdown09 said:
I'm beginning to think that Tallest Skil works at Apple. You sure seem to know a whole lot that others don't.
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Hmm... ;)

Darn it, the last post of mine that I can easily find only goes back to December 8th.

I was going to link to one of my posts where I got the specs of the new MacBook Pro correct with only one difference (no 500GB hard drive option).

And then where I got the specs of the current iMacs correct with only one difference.

And then where I got the specs of the Early 2008 MacBook Pro correct, with two differences.

I may not work for Apple, but I'm pretty darn good at figuring specs.

When I'm off, I'm off optimistically, which is really a shame for everyone wanting incredible specs... :(

A 30" iMac would be incredible, but when they're that big, you start to get into Mac Pro territory, price-wise. A 30" iMac would be purchased by professionals instead of the Mac Pro.

Also, with the new iMacs getting LED backlighting, the price would be particularly prohibitive, since the standalone 30" Cinema Display, when updated, will remain at its current price point.
 
irun5k said:
They absolutely have to! Not doing so would be suicide. Imagine if Apple had never shipped a computer with a DVD drive... e.g. if they just stuck with CD drives.

Frankly, as multimedia centric as Apple is, I have a hard time understanding why they haven't shipped Blu-ray hardware yet. This round of the format war has been over for a while now, and Blu-ray isn't exactly new technology at this point.
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I think the issue is more about how long will blu-ray be around. In my opinion digital media (OnDemand, iTV, digital downloads) will win out and leave blu-ray to die out.
 
JG271 said:
Well, the powerbooks/macbook pros held the same design for a lot longer than that!
I agree i'd be nice, but i can't see it happening - the aluminium design came out not long ago and i don't know what they could change really.

iMacs seem likely... although it says new, does that mean just processor bumps or something else? Or don't we know? :p
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Hmmmm let me take a stab at this! Lets see.... Hey how about a Matte screen option? :D
 
Rocketman said:
We are seeing several hints Apple is backing away a bit from the secrecy meme. The new iMac and Mac-Mini attributes in shipping software, the disclosure of case availability of an unreleased product, supply chain notices of shipping iMacs, Steve not leading the talk at Mac World.

It is a new meme.

It's what (some of) you people have been wishing for, and now that Apple is nearing "large" as a company, just what you would expect. Some forward visibility of product offerings.

I miss the good ole days. :)

Rocketman
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Depends. Its awfully coincidental that things always leak a few days or weeks before to hype up the event.

mastershakess said:
I think the issue is more about how long will blu-ray be around. In my opinion digital media (OnDemand, iTV, digital downloads) will win out and leave blu-ray to die out.
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Its never going to take off the way it should until the current restrictions are no longer there. With digital movies you have no rights to import your current library, you have no rights to export your digital movies to DVD, and you have no rights to use it on a TV not using the AppleTV set top box.
 
dwd3885 said:
unlike the unibody laptop designs, there's not much more Apple can do to make the iMac look any better.
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True. While not technically unibody, it's already constructed from a single sheet of aluminum. Since it's not handled like a laptop, the iMac won't benefit from the other advantage of the unibody design.
 
Tallest Skil said:
I may not work for Apple, but I'm pretty darn good at figuring specs.

When I'm off, I'm off optimistically, which is really a shame for everyone wanting incredible specs... :(
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As someone who is interested in an updated iMac, what are your predictions for the next iMac?
 
i think bluray will be around for as long as dvd's were, mainly because the US doesn't have the backbone for giving out customers HD 1080p on demand media over net connections, I mean trying to watch 720p HD on demand over the internet works but makes the internet almost unusable. Id rather have a disk and dedicated device. Im not saying its not going to happen, it will just i don't think it will happen for 4-5 years. Until then I want bluray in my next computer
 
Retro

I think Apple will surprise us all an go totally retro on the design:

beige box
SCSI ports
8MB RAM

:D
 
schwartzki said:
i think bluray will be around for as long as dvd's were, mainly because the US doesn't have the backbone for giving out customers HD 1080p on demand media over net connections, I mean trying to watch 720p HD on demand over the internet works but makes the internet almost unusable. Id rather have a disk and dedicated device. Im not saying its not going to happen, it will just i don't think it will happen for 4-5 years. Until then I want bluray in my next computer
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Jobs made it clear he had no interest in Blu-Ray
 
It won't have a keyboard, mouse, firewire, usb, hard drive or even a cpu.

Steve Jobs has deemed all these things unnecessary.
 
Small White Car said:
Well, since you apparently don't regard the aluminum/glass changes as a redesign, I guess you're talking about something more major.

So I have to ask: What?

It's down to JUST a screen. There's nothing else to remove! So what are you suggesting? That they add extra parts back on to the iMac? Make it bigger?

I'm just guessing what you might have meant. What is it you're actually suggesting?
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What I mean by 'redesign' is a change in the shape of the computer (I wasn't really clear, sorry) The iMac's had the same Screen + Leg design for quite a while, since the G5. I don't know if there's much that should be, or even could be changed to give a refreshing change (Kind of like the change from the G4 iMac to the G5) but I'd like something more drastic than just a new paint job. But then again, Apple know's best, eh?
 
topgunn said:
As someone who is interested in an updated iMac, what are your predictions for the next iMac?
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Well...

2.4, 2.53, 2.8, and 3.06 GHz (sound familiar? The current iMacs are clocked to "Montevina" speeds, but we'll have the real ones now)
2GB DDR3 RAM standard... MAYBE 4GB standard on the high-end 24"
I see HDD sizes remaining the same... maybe a 500 on the low-end 24"
Same old SuperDrive. No Blu-ray.
9600M in the 20", 9800M GS or GT in the 24"

Sound about right? LED screens, of course, and I want a Mighty Mouse like that one mockup that has been flying around because I want something like that for my Mac Pro.

gkarris said:
8Megs RAM - what are you going to do with that much memory??? :eek:
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Reminds me of that old Performa commercial. "How many megs of RAM, Carmine?" "Eight!"
 
mastershakess said:
I think the issue is more about how long will blu-ray be around. In my opinion digital media (OnDemand, iTV, digital downloads) will win out and leave blu-ray to die out.
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I've heard that argument before. At first glance it sounds valid. But, then you have to realize that even "HD" downloads that we have today are uber-compressed 720p. Think of the bandwidth required for the bitrates you'll get from a full quality, Blu-ray movie... 1080p video with a kick-butt audio profile like DD+ 7.1.

When I can rent something of that quality for 99 cents to $1.99 from a kiosk at the grocery store on the corner and be done with it, why would I want to fuss with letting something download for hours, or more likely, days?

And you know what? When/if residential broadband does catch up with Blu-ray bit rates, a new format will exist that doubles or quadruples Blu-ray capability... and it will be back to playing catchup for broadband. And remember, even when major cities in places like America, Australia, etc. catch up, there are still plenty of rural areas that will lag because of cost and demand issues.
 
Needs Quad-Core real bad, prolly not the Core i7's since those are so new.. but would be nice! And I would like an impressive video card, ala nVidia 260 Core 216 with 864MB of RAM or a slightly more practical ATI/AMD 4870 with 1GB of RAM. I likes me video games!

But yeah, if it had a Core i7 Quad and an impressive Video Card, it might halt my plans to build a Hackintosh. I'll get the 24" model with my 24" connected as a second monitor... MMMMMMMMMMM:cool:
 
ltcol266845 said:
Needs Quad-Core real bad, prolly not the Core i7's since those are so new.. but would be nice! And I would like an impressive video card, ala nVidia 260 Core 216 with 864MB of RAM or a slightly more practical ATI/AMD 4870 with 1GB of RAM. I likes me video games!

But yeah, if it had a Core i7 Quad and an impressive Video Card, it might halt my plans to build a Hackintosh. I'll get the 24" model with my 24" connected as a second monitor... MMMMMMMMMMM:cool:
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Except the only Nehalem processors that exist are desktop processors, and the iMac doesn't use desktop processors. So we won't see Nehalem until Q4 2009.
 
iSee said:
I think Apple will surprise us all an go totally retro on the design:

beige box
SCSI ports
8MB RAM

:D
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Im not fussed on specs. If all they changed is the specs but it looks the same then i will stick to what i have. I would love them to go retro. I loved the clamshell ibooks. I would love them to bring out funky laptops again.
 
mastershakess said:
I think the issue is more about how long will blu-ray be around. In my opinion digital media (OnDemand, iTV, digital downloads) will win out and leave blu-ray to die out.
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I am sure digital media will win eventually, but until I can download 1080p movies with uncompressed sound I will stick with Blu-Ray
 
Tallest Skil said:
Except the only Nehalem processors that exist are desktop processors, and the iMac doesn't use desktop processors. So we won't see Nehalem until Q4 2009.
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but what is their big need for using Mobile CPUs? The current crop of CPUs from Intel run very cool. sure, they require more power than a mobile chip, but the desktop variants are so much more powerful, capable and cheaper!
 
irun5k said:
I've heard that argument before. At first glance it sounds valid. But, then you have to realize that even "HD" downloads that we have today are uber-compressed 720p. Think of the bandwidth required for the bitrates you'll get from a full quality, Blu-ray movie... 1080p video with a kick-butt audio profile like DD+ 7.1.

When I can rent something of that quality for 99 cents to $1.99 from a kiosk at the grocery store on the corner and be done with it, why would I want to fuss with letting something download for hours, or more likely, days?

And you know what? When/if residential broadband does catch up with Blu-ray bit rates, a new format will exist that doubles or quadruples Blu-ray capability... and it will be back to playing catchup for broadband. And remember, even when major cities in places like America, Australia, etc. catch up, there are still plenty of rural areas that will lag because of cost and demand issues.
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I hope you are right. I like Blu-Ray but it doesn't seem to be catching on with the masses. The idea of paying $30-35 for a new Blu-Ray where the new DVD is $15-20 just doesn't seem practical right now. Cheapest Blu-Ray player is $150ish? Where the cheapest DVD player maybe $20 or so.

Just doesn't seem like it is latching on to me.
 
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