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This was somehow glossed over by most news outlets during all the hype yesterday and is yet again another reason this is such a terrible value and I hope this generation falls on it's face. Apple needs to learn a lesson with this one.

What an odd way of thinking. If this is what the market wants, then it's what it wants. If you don't see the value, then no need to trash the product and hope it fails--just buy the iPad model that you think is the best value for you and let others buy what they want.
 
Apple is going completely against what Steve Jobs stood for. Steve Jobs always wanted simple product and didn’t want people to earn Doctorate degree in researching various nuances between 2 products and compare them to previous year’s products mumbo jumbo blah blah!

It doesn't take too much mental acuity to use the "compare" feature on Apple's website. And most people don't care about the nitty-gritty features--they just want to know about the major ones. They're all nice products.
 
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Most people were expecting or maybe I should say now hoping that the iPad 10 was a replacement for the iPad 9 at the same price or close to it. What we got instead was the new Apple where any value goes out the door if Tim feels now is the opportunity to give consumers the “new normal” or whatever you want to call it. Unless the expectation by Apple is third party retailers will discount the price anyway so let’s make the original price overinflated so the discounted price is still what we can accept?
$329 was unrealistic, particularly given inflation. That said, $399 would have been a psychologically more palatable price point than $449. I wouldn't be surprised if $399 becomes a common "sale" price.
 
Have to say, the weeping and gnashing of teeth over having to use an adapter on your iPad…first world problems people! You don’t like it? Buy an Air. Buy the 9. Buy Samsung or a Surface.

It doesn’t have a laminated display exactly the same as the Air 5? See my previous answer and maybe just accept the budget iPad has to skip some features. The screen isn‘t anti glare? Bet someone makes a screen protector that might help.

Apple is a private business out to make money for its shareholders. It isn’t a benevolent charitable society or a public good. Tim just wants your cash, not your affection. The latter doesn’t help pay his stock options.
 
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This was somehow glossed over by most news outlets during all the hype yesterday and is yet again another reason this is such a terrible value and I hope this generation falls on it's face. Apple needs to learn a lesson with this one.
And if this generation is successful? My guess is there are a “ton” of MBAs trying to figure this out years in advance.
 
Agreed—there's a lot of confusion with the iPad lineup now. As an owner of three iPads (a mini 6, an iPad Air 4th get and an iPad Pro 12.9-inch 4th gen), I look at Apple's lineup now and wonder what they're trying to achieve with all of this addition and subtraction of features across the varied lineup.

I wonder how much of this product juggling is driven by user demands, or rather by their marketing plans.
Definitely not macrumors users demand. But I’m guessing a lot of planning tests in advance.
 
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Just received today my iPad air 4th gen and it's so far away to cover a display P3 that even in the green pixel doesn't even cover a sRGB.....
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About test performed on iPad air 4th and 5th gen, they show that the DCI P3 it's covered just by the 80% and a little more over a sRGB, for have one device to cover DCI P3 you had to have a iPad Pro
 
Agreed—there's a lot of confusion with the iPad lineup now. As an owner of three iPads (a mini 6, an iPad Air 4th get and an iPad Pro 12.9-inch 4th gen), I look at Apple's lineup now and wonder what they're trying to achieve with all of this addition and subtraction of features across the varied lineup.

I wonder how much of this product juggling is driven by user demands, or rather by their marketing plans.
The iPad lineup itself isn’t that confusing. Looking solely at 11” models, you have a classic “good, better, best” lineup, priced accordingly. The 12.9” and mini serve specific use cases. The 9th generation is simply the old model continuing for sale because it’s cheap (Apple has done that a lot in the past, and still does with the M1 MacBook Air).

What is confusing is the accessory lineup. 2 different pencils, 5 keyboards (one of which works only with a single iPad model), etc. make it very difficult to work in a multiple iPad environment.
 
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If you believe that this iPad is largely intended for the education market, it makes sense that it cuts cost wherever possible
I don't know what are you talking about here ... they've literally made an effort(=costs money for r&d) to make it like a donkey backhole
 
Apple Pencil 1 is probably one of the worst designed Apple products -- just look at everyone who's lost that stupid cap and has a bare lightning port sticking out. The fact that they're continuing to support it baffles me, even more so since they switched to USBC and you have to buy another stupid adapter.
the adapter comes in the box. although i agree with your comments. supporting that first gen pencil is a huge mistake.
 
There was absolutely no way that the 10th gen iPad would retain the price of the 9th gen but with the new Air form-factor. That was just wishful thinking.

The 9th gen iPad is a great option for that older relative. As for why you would push AirPods on her is a mystery to me. Added expense and added complexity for no benefit for her uses.
I wasn't going to push AirPods on her. I said if she went with the 10th gen iPad, given it were the 9th gen price point, there would be no headphone jack and she would probably then need to move to AirPods for earbuds.
 
I wasn't going to push AirPods on her. I said if she went with the 10th gen iPad, given it were the 9th gen price point, there would be no headphone jack and she would probably then need to move to AirPods for earbuds.
A USB-C-to-3.5mm adapter and wired earbuds is an alternative that doesn’t require AirPods.
 
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