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Apple last year released Final Cut Pro for iPad Pro and iPad Air models with the M1 chip and newer, and now we have confirmed that the professional video editing app is also compatible with the new seventh-generation iPad mini.

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Apple recently updated the App Store listing for Final Cut Pro to indicate the app is now compatible with both M-series chips and the A17 Pro chip in the new iPad mini. Apple's audio editing app Logic Pro is also compatible with the new iPad mini, as that app merely requires any iPad model with an A12 Bionic chip or newer.

However, some Final Cut Pro features are not compatible with the new iPad mini due to hardware or software limitations, as outlined in the app's description.

We have also confirmed that the new iPad mini is not compatible with the Stage Manager feature, which is not very surprising given the device's smaller 8.3-inch display size compared to the larger 11-inch and 13-inch iPad Pro and iPad Air models.

On supported iPads, Stage Manager allows users to resize apps into overlapping windows for an improved multitasking experience. Stage Manager also fully supports an external display with up to 6K resolution, allowing users to work with up to four apps on the iPad and up to four apps on the external display simultaneously.

The new iPad mini launches this Wednesday.

Article Link: New iPad Mini Compatible With Final Cut Pro, But Lacks Stage Manager
 
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It's really a shame they have intentionally hobbled the device by not giving it at least an M1. No true external display support. no stage manager, lack of access to likely several other major features during its normal lifecycle as all development is focused on M-generation iPads. Also means apps which require an M-series chip aren't going to work either (or at least as well). They patched Final Cut (for now) to run, but it's not the only M-series app.

This is like them dropping a new MacBook with an Intel i3 processor. Sure, it might still get security patches, but the entire focus of development is on M-series chips.

I think they want to kill the Mini (like they did the Mini phone) but simply can't because of overwhelming corporate usage... so they are trying to keep it fundamentally deficient so it can't be a consumer success (presumably to drive folks to larger more profitable iPads).

It's a shame too because I would pay 2x the cost of a maxed out 12.9 Pro (which I also have) for an iPad mini Pro. The form factor is absolutely PERFECT. Being able to travel with just that, a fold out bluetooth keyboard and flat mouse would be a game changer as everything could fit in a jacket pocket.
 
It's really a shame they have intentionally hobbled the device by not giving it at least an M1. No true external display support. no stage manager, lack of access to likely several other major features during its normal lifecycle as all development is focused on M-generation iPads. Also means apps which require an M-series chip aren't going to work either (or at least as well). They patched Final Cut (for now) to run, but it's not the only M-series app.

This is like them dropping a new MacBook with an Intel i3 processor. Sure, it might still get security patches, but the entire focus of development is on M-series chips.

I think they want to kill the Mini so bad but simply can't because of overwhelming corporate usage... so they are trying to keep it fundamentally deficient so it can't be a consumer success (presumably to drive folks to larger more profitable iPads).
So very much this. Could not agree more. I’m so tired of their fragmentation and compromise. The mini is such a great device and IMHO the best iPad and what I see an iPad to be: a great device for consuming content. Apple should either go all out or kill off the mini already. This one step forward two steps back is getting boring.
 
It's really a shame they have intentionally hobbled the device by not giving it at least an M1. No true external display support. no stage manager, lack of access to likely several other major features during its normal lifecycle as all development is focused on M-generation iPads. Also means apps which require an M-series chip aren't going to work either (or at least as well). They patched Final Cut (for now) to run, but it's not the only M-series app.

This is like them dropping a new MacBook with an Intel i3 processor. Sure, it might still get security patches, but the entire focus of development is on M-series chips.

I think they want to kill the Mini (like they did the Mini phone) but simply can't because of overwhelming corporate usage... so they are trying to keep it fundamentally deficient so it can't be a consumer success (presumably to drive folks to larger more profitable iPads).

It's a shame too because I would pay 2x the cost of a maxed out 12.9 Pro (which I also have) for an iPad mini Pro. The form factor is absolutely PERFECT. Being able to travel with just that, a fold out bluetooth keyboard and flat mouse would be a game changer as everything could fit in a jacket pocket.
Ive loved my mini 6 for the last 3 years.

never thought I was a 'smaller iPad' kinda guy but it grew on me and ended up being my only iPad.

I was keen waiting for the 7 to see what It was before upgrading, but pre-decided that if it didn't have an improved screen i.e. no jelly scroll (I don't personally care about 60hz it's fine for an iPad being an iPad and not a games machine!) or couldn't run stage manager then I would pass and return to the pro lineup.

So, back to the pro I am.

But, what a shame. The form factor is great - imagine it with an M chip or with stage manager - it doesn't matter that the screen is smaller.... plug it into an external monitor and it could become the ultimate flexible portable computing device.

They dropped the ball here.

So right now the slimmer and significantly more advanced iPad Pro is for me now.
 
It's really a shame they have intentionally hobbled the device by not giving it at least an M1. No true external display support. no stage manager, lack of access to likely several other major features during its normal lifecycle as all development is focused on M-generation iPads. Also means apps which require an M-series chip aren't going to work either (or at least as well). They patched Final Cut (for now) to run, but it's not the only M-series app.

This is like them dropping a new MacBook with an Intel i3 processor. Sure, it might still get security patches, but the entire focus of development is on M-series chips.

I think they want to kill the Mini (like they did the Mini phone) but simply can't because of overwhelming corporate usage... so they are trying to keep it fundamentally deficient so it can't be a consumer success (presumably to drive folks to larger more profitable iPads).

It's a shame too because I would pay 2x the cost of a maxed out 12.9 Pro (which I also have) for an iPad mini Pro. The form factor is absolutely PERFECT. Being able to travel with just that, a fold out bluetooth keyboard and flat mouse would be a game changer as everything could fit in a jacket pocket.
Well the M1 would have technically been a downgrade, as the the previous Mini 6 had the M2 based A15 Chip, so the Mini 7 should have been given the M2 at least. The A17 Pro however is a more advanced chip than the M1/M2 and is fully capable of running Stage Manager via an external extended display, but they purposely disabled it, probably to upsell people to the 11" Air/Pro. Having Final Cut Pro though is a massive bonus, as they could have just not bothered because of the smaller screen.
 
i expect one of two things happening in the next three years:

one: apple finally adds the iPad mini screen size as an option to the iPad Pro lineup, and stops selling this old mini or at a reduced price for entry level into iPads. (And if they go smaller bezels, iPad Mini Pro could even go to 8,5 or 8,7 inches.)

or

two: apple kills the mini altogether and this will be the last mini ever made.
 
It's really a shame they have intentionally hobbled the device by not giving it at least an M1. No true external display support. no stage manager, lack of access to likely several other major features during its normal lifecycle as all development is focused on M-generation iPads. Also means apps which require an M-series chip aren't going to work either (or at least as well). They patched Final Cut (for now) to run, but it's not the only M-series app.

This is like them dropping a new MacBook with an Intel i3 processor. Sure, it might still get security patches, but the entire focus of development is on M-series chips.

I think they want to kill the Mini (like they did the Mini phone) but simply can't because of overwhelming corporate usage... so they are trying to keep it fundamentally deficient so it can't be a consumer success (presumably to drive folks to larger more profitable iPads).

It's a shame too because I would pay 2x the cost of a maxed out 12.9 Pro (which I also have) for an iPad mini Pro. The form factor is absolutely PERFECT. Being able to travel with just that, a fold out bluetooth keyboard and flat mouse would be a game changer as everything could fit in a jacket pocket.
They’ll use the low sales as an excuse to kill it. It’s kind of sad, I would have liked a more capable iPad mini (and iPhone mini)!

Maybe they are trying to sunset it in favor of a foldable iPhone/iPad hybrid. In a few years, they’ll probably show us charts on how much better the folding iPhone is compared to the mini 7.

I would have bought this mini if it had true external display support.
 
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More great info for potential purchasers... but where are the reviews of this device? I want to know 100% that they fixed the jelly scroll (more than Jason Snell repeating rumours on a podcast). Why hasn't Apple let people try this yet??
 
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Well the M1 would have technically been a downgrade, as the the previous Mini 6 had the M2 based A15 Chip, so the Mini 7 should have been given the M2 at least. The A17 Pro however is a more advanced chip than the M1/M2 and is fully capable of running Stage Manager via an external extended display, but they purposely disabled it, probably to upsell people to the 11" Air/Pro. Having Final Cut Pro though is a massive bonus, as they could have just not bothered because of the smaller screen.
The A17 is certainly a more modern design than the M1 and M2, but I doubt it has the extra display controller needed to drive an extended external display.
 
I wrote this in the past, but in my opinion Apple should put stage manager on iPad mini only when it is connected to an external display in order to use it like a computer. Apple sells it with an high price, so they should give something more to buyers.
Instead on iPad 11 Apple should put inside the m1 to enable stage manager only on iPad screen so the students can do activities more easily, but the lack of external display support could differentiate it from Air and Pro.
 
More great info for potential purchasers... but where are the reviews of this device? I want to know 100% that they fixed the jelly scroll (more than Jason Snell repeating rumours on a podcast). Why hasn't Apple let people try this yet??
Because it's not out yet.
 
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They'll probably release a foldable and nuke the Mini, which "yes", would be intensely frustrating to many of us

(or something along those lines)
 
More great info for potential purchasers... but where are the reviews of this device? I want to know 100% that they fixed the jelly scroll (more than Jason Snell repeating rumours on a podcast). Why hasn't Apple let people try this yet??

Reviews are all over the place

They didn't rotate the panel .. Jelly is still there but maybe a little bit reduced it sounds like
 
Reviews are all over the place

They didn't rotate the panel .. Jelly is still there but maybe a little bit reduced it sounds like
Right. Of course as soon as I post this, I read another thread that has all the reviews.

Sounds like they didn't rotate the display controller back to the Mini 1-5 portrait orientation, so Jelly scroll will still be a problem. Ugh.
 
Right. Of course as soon as I post this, I read another thread that has all the reviews.

Sounds like they didn't rotate the display controller back to the Mini 1-5 portrait orientation, so Jelly scroll will still be a problem. Ugh.

Yeah - I think it's likely somehow "a little bit better" and it will be very subjectively annoying still

Those of us who couldn't stand it likely are still going to notice and be irritated by it

Only way to know will be in person with the device at a store, which I'll plan to do in a week or two I guess
 
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i expect one of two things happening in the next three years:

one: apple finally adds the iPad mini screen size as an option to the iPad Pro lineup, and stops selling this old mini or at a reduced price for entry level into iPads. (And if they go smaller bezels, iPad Mini Pro could even go to 8,5 or 8,7 inches.)

or

two: apple kills the mini altogether and this will be the last mini ever made.
Or three they will continue to update the mini every 3 or so years and cater to the customers they know are actually buying them. These are used widely in enterprise especially as pos systems. Just because Apple isn’t turning the mini into a pro doesn’t mean it’s going away. The best selling iPad is often the cheap one not the more advanced models
 
It's really a shame they have intentionally hobbled the device by not giving it at least an M1. No true external display support. no stage manager, lack of access to likely several other major features during its normal lifecycle as all development is focused on M-generation iPads. Also means apps which require an M-series chip aren't going to work either (or at least as well). They patched Final Cut (for now) to run, but it's not the only M-series app.
Complete nonsense.
The A17 has plenty of benefits over the M1, and most apps on the App Store that require an “M” chip is because of the 8GB of RAM.

The “M” series is also significantly more power hungry, and the Mini has a tiny 19.3WH battery.
 
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Well the M1 would have technically been a downgrade, as the the previous Mini 6 had the M2 based A15 Chip, so the Mini 7 should have been given the M2 at least. The A17 Pro however is a more advanced chip than the M1/M2 and is fully capable of running Stage Manager via an external extended display, but they purposely disabled it, probably to upsell people to the 11" Air/Pro. Having Final Cut Pro though is a massive bonus, as they could have just not bothered because of the smaller screen.
Yes, and once again, these comments prove that no one seems to get exactly what the “M” chips are.
They aren’t totally different from the “A” chips like a lot of people seem to believe. A lot of people seem to actually believe that if the iPad mini had the “M1” it would be a more capable, faster, longer lasting machine than the “A17”, when that just absolutely is not the case.

The A17 is on a newer process than the M1, has faster RAM than the M1, has a RT capable GPU when the M1 does not, has the newer AV1 decoders which the M1 does not, and will more than likely get three more years of support since it’s three years newer.

Meanwhile, the M1 is basically an A14 with more cores and RAM. Incredible chip, but still four years old, and has the most in common with the same chip from the iPhone 12 then it does the newer “A” chips.

The A17 is most comparable to the M3, but even then it would have made absolutely no sense to put an M3 in the iPad mini, because it’s a tiny thermal envelope with a small battery.
 
I canceled my 7 order and am sticking with the 6 for now. I did find this workaround for getting stage manager on the mini that doesn't require jailbreaking. There is a video tutorial here:

Seems to be working pretty well. FYI, it is not compatible with 18.1 yet, so you would need to stay on 18.0.1. If you are using a mini 6 you aren't missing out on much with the 18.1 upgrade anyway.

Edit: I haven't tried external display support so not sure how it would do, but there are no performance issues when running it, so the lack of this feature on the mini is certainly not due to the chip.
 
I canceled my 7 order and am sticking with the 6 for now. I did find this workaround for getting stage manager on the mini that doesn't require jailbreaking. There is a video tutorial here:

Seems to be working pretty well. FYI, it is not compatible with 18.1 yet, so you would need to stay on 18.0.1. If you are using a mini 6 you aren't missing out on much with the 18.1 upgrade anyway.

Edit: I haven't tried external display support so not sure how it would do, but there are no performance issues when running it, so the lack of this feature on the mini is certainly not due to the chip.
Forget about that it will be fixed in iOS 18.1 bro…
 
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