New iPad Mini Reviews: Capable Small Tablet With Nearly All Features of New iPad Air

TheGenerous

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iPad is an even dumber toy. Doesn't do anything more than a phone, not as specialized as a Nintendo Switch and too gimped by iOS to be a laptop replacement. Our iPad is used to entertain kids when then come over but even kids prefer their portable gaming console or laptop.
Never a toy. Has helped me as a physicist for more than 5 years. Also it's really good for proofing typesetting and photos in my work in editorial design. You need to see beyond your world
 

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I'll never get the "same old design" complaint. If it ain't broke.... And I'm all for innovation and imagination but its a tablet. Its always gonna be a rectangle of some sort. Isn't it?
 

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does anyone know if the new iPad Air and mini support fast charging? I know thats kinda a pro and iPhone thing but I was just curious
I see no reason why they wouldn’t. Apple has included fast charging since the iPad Pro (1st Gen), with the glaring omission of the iPad Pro 9.7”, which I may be conflating with the fact that the 9.7” doesn’t support USB 3.0, just USB 2.0. I wish Apple disclosed the version of USB supported in all of its iOS products whether it has a Lightning or USB-C connector...this masking really does nothing to help the consumer. It’s only purpose is to keep the hardcore techies from having red meat for complaining which they seem to do, regardless.
 
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I think the primary reason is that most of the people commenting on this site are technophiles who have recent Macs & such and have already invested in USB-C, not understanding that most of the general public (for which the Mini & Air seem to be targeting), still get by with USB-A & Lightning.

For them, having a USB-C iPad would be something of a pain. These are not made for hardcore workload like video & photography like the Pros are, which is while they call them “Pro.”
So... I think you are putting down people without remembering the question, which is 'why would anyone prefer USB-C to lightening.' it's not about what most people would like... I agree, most people still have lightening, but that is true for any technology at its peak. The industry, including Apple, is standardizing on USB-C. So really, this debate is sorta silly, because its not a matter of if but when. And for me, yes, I have a MacBook Pro and an iPad Pro, so I would just prefer all to switch over so I don't have to check which cable goes to what device. what is wrong with that? Someone made the comment they charge all devices at once so it doesn't matter.. but I travel a lot and so value not having to carry and sort through different cords. The promise of USB-C is it works with everything. It is getting there.
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i had buttonless. it was great on the ipad pro sitting around on the couch in a living room. It was a continual hassle once I started trying to use it as a mobile device. Grab the device, set it in your lap, hit the screen, which way is it going to be facing? no idea. display is in some random orientation. ok reorient it so its right side up facing you. great now wheres your camera, or the one power button to single, double, and triple click? It’s the dark gray bump over the edge from visibility, feel around tge edges for it, no not that bump, thats something else, ok theres the button to triple click for your one programmable function, a color correction setting to fix apple maps colorblind illegibility, and it just turned your display off, but its in an inaccessible position anyway, so reposition the ipad again for the button & camera end to be up, then reorient the display image to be right side up. VS, grab ipad mini from jacket or back pants pocket, before its even out of the pocket, your thumb can feel if its on the home button, if its not, you flip it before its even in front of your face and its on and youre in. Add to that, iOS11 & 12s grand & fairly inconsistent multitouch gestures didn’t scale well down to the mini. If they were all we had to rely on to operate the device, theyd be fishing them out of rivers for centuries.
I agree. FaceID works for me with a phone, because it's small, I almost always am brining it up to my face to look at, so its a natural gesture. Love FaceID on my phone.

Conversely, FaceID only is natural for me on my iPad Pro when its on a desk, landscape mode, with the keyboard, pretending to be a laptop. Then it works really really well. Almost any other time I am using it, I have to think to position it correctly. Not natural. So for me, I would gladly go back to the button on the iPad, but keep faceID on my phone.
 

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I see no reason why they wouldn’t. Apple has included fast charging since the iPad Pro (1st Gen), with the glaring omission of the iPad Pro 9.7”, which I may be conflating with the fact that the 9.7” doesn’t support USB 3.0, just USB 2.0. I wish Apple disclosed the version of USB supported in all of its iOS products whether it has a Lightning or USB-C connector...this masking really does nothing to help the consumer. It’s only purpose is to keep the hardcore techies from having red meat for complaining which they seem to do, regardless.
As an owner of a 9.7 pro i always felt left out without fast charging and usb 3. But i agree, i cant see any reason as to why apple would not include fast charging or usb 3 with the new iPads.
 

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I'll never get the "same old design" complaint. If it ain't broke.... And I'm all for innovation and imagination but its a tablet. Its always gonna be a rectangle of some sort. Isn't it?
Unbeknownst to us, I believe Apple made an internal decision to go all in with the iPad Pro, and that meant pushing form (slab side, rounded corner screen, all screen) and function (USB-C, 1TB Storage, magnetic induction recharging, 12.9” size).

On the flip side of that equation, Apple decided that the iPad, iPad mini and iPad Air would continue on with Lightning, the older industrial design, preserving investments by existing users who decide to upgrade (there are still a lot of iPad 2, iPad Air and iPad mini 2/3 owners out there), smaller storage sizes (still larger than these older devices), the older Pencil (now they can go one better and use a Crayon to save a bit more). This approach does several things- reusing existing chassis allow cost reductions by continuing to use existing CNC milling machines with minimal changes to accommodate different logic board and batteries., it allows consumers to continue using items they have acquired over the years. These models also represent a tacit acknowledgement and accommodation for enterprise customers as well, who may want to replace aging iPads they have had deployed for something newe and faster, yet familiar enough and inexpensive enough to work inside the IT budget. For those many things, the iPad Pro is too expensive, requires different cables and power adapters, new cases, et al.

In my opinion, Apple played this one pretty well. If you want the cutting edge of design and features, buy an iPad Pro. If you want nice specs that can keep up with the iPad Pro speed-wise, preserving the iOS experience, but not feel like you are making an outsized investment in the extras (Pencil 2, new cables, new case, new power adapters), stick with the iPad, iPad mini and now, iPad Air.

I really think this works out better in the long run. I think there is a demand for the an iPad mini Pro, but the actual number of uses who would cough up $599-$699 for a 64GB iPad mini Pro is nowhere near large enough for Apple to go through the engineering exercise for creating it. I am almost certain the reduced battery size alone, not to mention the 120Hz Pro Motion, True Depth Camera and wireless charging for the Pencil 2 makes this a non-starter for Apple because the cost is to high for the projected market size.

To your main point...you are 100% correct, it’s a tablet. Way too much time is spent on these forums wringing hands about constant design changes that are just change for change sake and/or people who seem to get bored really easily.
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As an owner of a 9.7 pro i always felt left out without fast charging and usb 3. But i agree, i cant see any reason as to why apple would not include fast charging or usb 3 with the new iPads.
You have my sympathy...perhaps there is a valid “technical reason” (drew too much power, chip took up too much space, etc.), but it still just chafes me that they omitted that on the 9.7” while giving it the Pro moniker, raised the price from $499 to $599 and essentially ignored the iPad Air 2 even existed after the Pro was released.

At least now, it seems like there is a coherent strategy taking shape, even though many here think Apple is all over the map.
 

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Yawn. Whatever. It works and works well, and it's nice to have a part of the device that isn't the screen to -- you know -- hold the thing.
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God, yeah, my eyes are just burning seeing that millimeter of asymmetry.
Thank you.

These form over function zealots just never stop.

It’s form over function that has caused so many of apples missteps over the past few years, and here these nutballs are clamboring for it even more. It’s depressing.
 

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$299 looks like a better price
No Way. With the A12 processor, laminated display, and 3G RAM the new Mini fits right in with the recently released iPhones.

If it had the A10 or A11 with the cheaper non-laminated display (and air gap) that was rumored, then I could agree on your price; but this is a seriously powerful tablet. It's not just a 2018 iPad in a smaller form factor.
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Folks keep going on how the new Mini doesn’t have the Pro features when it seems clear that Apple means this & the new Air to be for consumer/education/business.

These two new iPads are also the only iPads that, along with the low-end model, can use the Logitech Crayon. They had to intentionally put that capability in for it to work, so it seems that have their market for these defined.

If they had made the Mini look like the Pro, don’t think for a second that Apple wouldn’t be charging US$600+ for the thing. It’s exactly what they did with the iPad. They improved it, called it the Air, and bumped it up to US$500.
I thought the New Air was just a lower cost version of the iPad Pro 10.5", not an improved iPad 9.7"
 
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Does anybody know if the iPad Mini 5 will have Display Zoom, like the iPhone 6/7/8 Pluses and one of the iPad Pros? I have an iPad 9.7 w/ pencil support from last year and would like to get this (previously had iPad Minis 1-3 but traded for the iPad 9.7 - would like to get the iPad Mini 5. However, I've kind of gotten used to the larger sizes of the icons and text on the 9.7 and the difference in size is significant with the Mini 5. It doesn't look like you were able to change the Display Zoom on the Mini 4.
 

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Apple would rather sell you three different devices than one integrated device. Apple needs to make something like this that integrates a 7.2" mini iPad, quasi Nintendo Switch and with pen input.

I am also thinking of switching to Samsung Tablets, as they have , according to Amazon, some seriously impressive battery life.
10years on one charge. you don’t get even close with iPad :)
 
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I can’t find the answer to this anywhere— has anyone tested the Apple Lightning to USB3 Camera connection kit with this new mini? Does it support importing photos at USB3 speeds as some of the older style Pro iPads do?