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I have a 13 inch iPad Pro from last year and for a quick minute I thought about trading it in for the new 11 inch. The 13 inches is too big for what I need, and I’d like to have the nano texture display. But to get that display, you have to buy it with one terabyte SSD and it comes to over $1600. Even with $700 trade-in on my current iPad, it’s just dumb. Apple has priced themselves out of any reasonable person’s ability to justify something like this.
 
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I'm not sure if I'm the only one experiencing this but on iOS and iPadOS devices I have never really noticed RAM bumps. I have the M2 iPad Pro, which has 8GB of RAM and I have tabs and apps having to refresh/reopen all the time, with all kind of apps (I know there are apps that are made to refresh constantly for security or other reasons). So I think that that added 4GB of RAM can easily be overrated, unless it can actually be used to good effect for intensive single tasks like exports (don't know for sure).

And I have had the same experience with iPhones, I have an old iPhone 13 here which I use to read stuff in my bed while my 17 is charging sometimes. Both devices keep as many apps in memory while my 17 has 4GB more.

I think that in some strange way RAM is more useful on iPhones because apparently the device needs it for processing images fast enough. To run those calculations of those camera features.
My experience is largely the same, but I feel for any device below 8 GB of RAM it starts to feel different now. My iPhone 13 mini with 4 gigs of RAM never keeps a previous route I looked up in Apple Maps in memory and tabs in Safari get reloaded quite often. Even on my iPad Pro M1 with 8 GB of RAM I noticed some animation stuttering or unresponsive windows, when trying to move them around. That makes me a bit concerned for what’s to come.
 
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The six are listed below that. Duh.
Critical thinking has left the building especially when someone is in a rush to criticize or complain about something, I keep noticing this.

I have a 13 inch iPad Pro from last year and for a quick minute I thought about trading it in for the new 11 inch. The 13 inches is too big for what I need, and I’d like to have the nano texture display. But to get that display, you have to buy it with one terabyte SSD and it comes to over $1600. Even with $700 trade-in on my current iPad, it’s just dumb. Apple has priced themselves out of any reasonable person’s ability to justify something like this.

Yeah it is annoying but standard for Apple to force multiple upgrades to get the one you want unfortunately.
 
I'm not sure if I'm the only one experiencing this but on iOS and iPadOS devices I have never really noticed RAM bumps. I have the M2 iPad Pro, which has 8GB of RAM and I have tabs and apps having to refresh/reopen all the time, with all kind of apps (I know there are apps that are made to refresh constantly for security or other reasons). So I think that that added 4GB of RAM can easily be overrated, unless it can actually be used to good effect for intensive single tasks like exports (don't know for sure).

And I have had the same experience with iPhones, I have an old iPhone 13 here which I use to read stuff in my bed while my 17 is charging sometimes. Both devices keep as many apps in memory while my 17 has 4GB more.

I think that in some strange way RAM is more useful on iPhones because apparently the device needs it for processing images fast enough. To run those calculations of those camera features.
Its like most performance changes, unless you're using something back to back you won't know the differences. I've specifically never tried to find out the difference RAM wise because they've tied it to the more expensive options of storage that are unnecessary for me.
 
Will we get back Apple's Smart Folio keyboard ever?
I’m still using this daily with my 2018 iPad Pro 11”. I love the compactness of it. I really am not looking forward to upgrading which I feel might be due next year.
 
Thanks captain obvious. Everyone knows that.
The way the other poster said it, it was as if they were suggesting the only iPads that had 16GB of RAM were the M4 Pros.

"The cellular, meh, and the ram if you had a M4 with 1-2 TB you already have 16 GB ram."
 
Possibly, the iPad mini will vanish if the iPhone actually gets a "working" and "reliable" fold option. The max memory of the current mini is 512GB and iPhones have had the 2TB option for years. The mini CPU is usually one or two generations behind the iPhone CPU to use up the old CPU parts inventory.
 
Possibly, the iPad mini will vanish if the iPhone actually gets a "working" and "reliable" fold option. The max memory of the current mini is 512GB and iPhones have had the 2TB option for years. The mini CPU is usually one or two generations behind the iPhone CPU to use up the old CPU parts inventory.

That'd be a huge mistake.

As just one example, iPad Mini's are enormously popular and perfectly sized for pilots and a "folding iPhone" is in no way at all a functional substitute.
 
Provided that it's a quality device/mechanism, why not?

You don't want that sort of device in the cockpit.

A rigid, fixed shape (often in a dedicated case) fits the mission profile perfectly.

Robustness, reliability, predictability, simplicity ... these are the sort of things you want in mission critical situation.

Maybe to explain or understand if not also a pilot.
 
  • The new iPad Pro supports fast charging. Apple says up to a 50% charge can be reached in around 30 minutes for the 11-inch model, and in around 35 minutes for the 13-inch model. Apple has not shared similar figures for previous iPad Pro models, so it is unclear how much of an improvement this is.
M4 iPad Pro supports fast charging as well, but Apple didn’t advertise this feature last year.
Today, I measured charging on my 11-inch iPad Pro M4 using a 65W charger:

Charge levels:

15 min: 23%
20 min: 30%
25 min: 38%
30 min: 45%
33 min: 50%

Power:

0-10% - 38W
10-45% - 38-41W
45-50% - 32-38W

Negligible difference between M4 and M5.
 
I miss the times when an iPad Pro cost 799€ instead of 1449€ 😅 (The M4 iPad Pro even cost 1549€😅😅😅) in the country I live in
 
Critical thinking has left the building especially when someone is in a rush to criticize or complain about something, I keep noticing this.



Yeah it is annoying but standard for Apple to force multiple upgrades to get the one you want unfortunately.
I have now seen this with my iPad Pro, and my Macbook Pro. Both are just a year old and their trade in values are horrible. It is worse than buying a new car. In the case of the Macbook, it lost over 50% of its vaule in one year. The iPad did a little better but still lost about 40-45% of its value in one year. I've come to the conclusion that it is better to buy one of these one year after they come out for a fraction of what they cost new.
 
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I have now seen this with my iPad Pro, and my Macbook Pro. Both are just a year old and their trade in values are horrible. It is worse than buying a new car. In the case of the Macbook, it lost over 50% of its vaule in one year. The iPad did a little better but still lost about 40-45% of its value in one year. I've come to the conclusion that it is better to buy one of these one year after they come out for a fraction of what they cost new.

Been saying this forever, for cars and Apple stuff..

Buy preowned!


Let other folks stay on the bleeding edge (and have their wallets get "cut" by it)

I promise you're not missing anything important by always having "the brand new thing".
 
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I have now seen this with my iPad Pro, and my Macbook Pro. Both are just a year old and their trade in values are horrible. It is worse than buying a new car. In the case of the Macbook, it lost over 50% of its vaule in one year. The iPad did a little better but still lost about 40-45% of its value in one year. I've come to the conclusion that it is better to buy one of these one year after they come out for a fraction of what they cost new.
That's what I did 5 months ago: I bought a used, like-new 16-inch MacBook Pro M3 Max with 64 GB RAM and 12 battery cycles, for 55% of the price of a new M4 Max MacBook Pro. I still think it was a great deal.
 
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