iPad Pro New iPad Pro models with no 3.5mm jack your thoughts.

Discussion in 'iPad' started by TheRealAlex, Jan 14, 2017.

  1. TheRealAlex macrumors 65816

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    plain and simple facts sound quality via any form of Bluetooth besides aptXHD does not equal the sound quality that can be transmitted. Via 3.5mm jack.

    That being said I understand the reasoning for deleting the 3.5mm jack on phones for a larger Taptic Vibration motor. But on an iPad ? We have plenty of space.

    Unless Apple is brining 3D Touch to iPads because look at the new MacBook Pros with the Touchbar the Trackpad is Massive and has a Taptic feedback motor to simulate clicks.

    It's possible they could add that to an iPad. I for one would gladly give up the 3.5mm Jack in exchange for 3D Touch.
     
  2. E.Lizardo macrumors 68000

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    Why does everyone ignore the adapter that ships with every iPhone? Don't like bluetooth? Don't use it. And I reject any notion that the adapter is some kind of horrible hardship.
     
  3. Appleaker macrumors 68020

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    They could have created the iPhone 7 with the same features and a headphone jack, the extra space was an advantage to the decision. But they did not take it out due to space for the Taptic Engine, they are doing it to push wireless audio primarily but also to ensure future phones can be designed to be thinner.

    Given that reasoning, you would assume they would remove it from the iPads but it doesn't look like they will. They may remove it on the iPad mini or this years 9.7" iPad, but the "Pro" iPads are going to keep it. 3D Touch is almost definitely coming, but they are able to implement it by making the device thicker and slightly reducing the battery size due to better efficiency. It'd be interesting if they used the 4 speakers in some way to assist with the haptic feedback...
     
  4. ardchoille50 macrumors 68020

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    I don't understand what all the hate is for removing the headphone jack from the phone. You'd need to plug the headphones into the jack and be tethered to the device via the headphone wire. Or, plug the adapter into the Lightning port, plug the headphones into the adapter, and still be tethered to the device via the headphone wire. We can charge iOS devices while we sleep, or shower, or while we're at work, or driving a car.. I really don't believe people are listening to music 24/7, so we can't really use the excuse about charging and listening to music at the same time. But, I'm sure someone who hates change will come up with some reason that the removal of the 3.5 jack was the worst thing to happen in the history of mankind.

    Remove the headphone jack, I, for one, won't lose any sleep over it.
     
  5. bensisko macrumors 65816

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    Wouldn't bother me in the least.

    Here's why:
    • I have a pair of Beats Studio headphones and they sound excellent! I love them for listening to music!
    • I don't own, but have had a chance to listen to the Airpods and they sound great as well - I look forward to owning a pair!
    • I also have zero issue using the lightning headphones included with my 7+
    • I also have no issue using the lightning to 3.5mm adaptor that came with the 7+ (nor do I have an issue buying a splitter, if necessary, so I can charge and listen with a 3.5mm jack if it's something I find that I want)
    • On the iPad, music is generally either played through Bluetooth Speakers or Bluetooth headphones.
    • I can't hear the slightest difference between wired and Bluetooth (though I understand there are some audiophiles out there than can)
    I've said it before - if Apple can accomplish wireless charging, I'm even all for getting rid of ALL wired ports. Even if they did wireless charging and kept the lightning port, it would solve the "charge while listening to music" complaint.


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    Agreed 100%.
     
  6. Greenmeenie macrumors 6502

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    I hope not. I like to surf the web & watch movies in bed at night. I usually have my iPad plugged in and charging. So I couldn't use the Lightning port to charge if I was listening to lightening headphones.
     
  7. Reno Raines macrumors 65816

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    I just bought a fuze battery case with a 3.5mm jack that is built into the case. That works for me. It is for the iPhone 7. I think that for the iPad that may make it too bulky for some but I put all my iPads in an otter box case so I would have no problem if one was designed for the iPad with a 3.5mm jack.
     
  8. Relentless Power macrumors Penryn

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    I personally feel Apple may not include the 3.5 Jack on the new iPad for obvious reasons. If they do include it, it will draw some serious heat. And not including the Jack, allows for other features possibly to be included and a portal for Apple to continue to push the Airpods.
     
  9. sorcery macrumors regular

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    Not an issue for me. I have yet to connect headphones to my iPad. (Never used the camera either, come to that, as far as I remember.) Music and podcasts are tasks for my iPod Touch. Quite happy to use lightning headphone, if I ever watch a movie on an aircraft.
     
  10. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 603

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    It doesn't bother me so much on an iPad as I never charge and listen through headphones at the same. On my phone in the car I sit it in a dock plugged in to a 12v charger and have a cable plugged to the jack from an aux port to listen to music. The iPhone 7 doesn't allow that.

    The Ipad scenario is fine, you just have to make sure you don't misplace that stupid little adapter. Cutting edge stuff lol.
     
  11. Abazigal macrumors G3

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    As a teacher, there are times when I connect my iPad to the projector and plug in the audio cable as well to get sound out (like when I am playing a video). If Apple releases a vga adaptor with an inbuilt audio jack, I guess that would be fine, but it would impact me in a sense, I guess.
     
  12. nfl46 macrumors 604

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    I forgot we even had one on the 12.9 Pro. I don't think I've ever used the headphone jack with it.
     
  13. Channan macrumors 68030

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    You could buy something like this to prevent losing the adapter.
     
  14. stevemiller macrumors 68000

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    What a beautiful vision of the future ;)
     
  15. Channan macrumors 68030

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    The future is wireless. The present is still very wired and this can help some people with the transition.
     
  16. bufffilm Suspended

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    The 3.5mm jack will probably disappear from the iPad line eventually. If not in the next generation, then the one after that.

    The jack going from the iphone upset me, not so for the iPad.

    Use case is different...with the iPad, I either use the internal speaker or a BT speaker. With the iPhone, i will have it plugged to charger and listen on wired earphones every day. Need both.
     
  17. ericwn macrumors 68000

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    Wasn't there some test showing the adapter already sounding worse than what previous iPhones were capable?
    Besides, I hope the adapters support inline cable remotes.
     
  18. ericwn macrumors 68000

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    What feature cannot be included by having the headphone jack on the iPad at the moment then?
    As long as I as user don't get a benefit for my listening experience, as long as nothing is made better for me, I'm not interested.
     
  19. ericwn macrumors 68000

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    I use the headphone jack almost every day on my iPad. The Apple jack /Lightning adapter that comes free would be ok if the sound quality is equal or better to the one in my Air 2. I am not willing to accept a step back in audio quality for any less cables or some other gimmick but that's just me.
     
  20. joeblow7777 macrumors 603

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    It may not be a horrible hardship, but you know what's still easier and more convenient that using an adapter? Not needing to use one. Any step in the direction of lesser convenience, even a small one, is not going to make people happy.
     
  21. fokmik macrumors 68020

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    i hope they will remove the jack only when they make the ipads even thiner i mean under 6mm thick
     
  22. bufffilm Suspended

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    You mean to say that using the Lightning adapter degrades audio quality (over the usual 3.5mm plug)...that's news to me!

    All the most reason to either go wireless (which brings its own set of issues) or stick with my 6s (or SE or similar phone).
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    This obsession to make the iPad thinner and lighter is silly and counterproductive.

    I'm waiting for Apple to put some decent battery life back in...
     
  23. ericwn macrumors 68000

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    If you understand German you can read Heise's tests on the Adapter here: https://www.heise.de/ct/artikel/iPh...apter-liefert-schlechteren-Sound-3325932.html

    They do point out that the audio quality measured with the 6S and iPad Air is better, but of course it depends on what one listens to.
    And going wireless means another reduction in sound quality depending on what solution one aims for. Ultimately that's where we all would like to go, but for me not at the cost of less quality.
    21st century, we should demand the best in technology, not any more of this "good enough" attitude.
     
  24. sparksd macrumors 68000

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    I would miss the jack. I use the headphone jack when watching movies on my Air 2 and generally have the charger plugged in at the same time. I do have wireless earbuds but prefer the over-the-ear headphones (I have 2 pair - Audio-Technica & Bose).
     
  25. The-Real-Deal82 macrumors 603

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    I appreciate the suggestion but if I remember to put the dongle on my car keys after using it each time I'm likely to remember to put it in a safe place in the first place. It's just an awkward workaround that I'm thankfully not going to experience for at least another 2 years.
     

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