Agreed - Apps with iPhone layouts available should optionally run in that mode since the apple silicon Mac can do it at this point. Obviously the "window" system needs to be expanded or overhauled for it to be useful.iPadOS should feature some apps in smaller, movable windows, like the weather and calculator app. Taking from the design of a desktop.
Either way, the software they announce next month won’t be officially available until the fall, so these iPad Pros would still be launching ahead of the new software.I don’t understand why Apple didn’t announce the new iPads at WWDC along with updates to iPad OS. It would make sense to announce the two together.
Sales of iPad never surprise anyone. Not in the entire history of product.I don’t disagree but I think the difference in sales can be accounted for by:
1) The Mac had just updated to Apple Silicon which a lot of people were waiting for (I purchased exactly because of this).
2) People we’re waiting for the updated iPad before upgrading (that’s exactly what I was doing). I have the new 12.9” being delivered next week. Despite what people are telling themselves on the interwebs, it is absolutely worth upgrading the 2018 model IPP. Leave it any longer and you will lose a lot of cash on resale. Right now, the resale value offsets the cost of the new model to something much more palatable than skipping this model and buying the next model.
I think the sales this year of iPads may surprise people, even given supposed chip shortages.
I'd be fine with that alternative, I think it might be too inconsistent for Apple thoughThis would just, never happen. But something like Motorola had with the Atrix.
Sure, iPad OS when it's an iPad makes tons of sense. But let me plug it in to a dock via the thunderbolt connector, and give me full macOS. Or, give me full macOS whenever it's connected to a keyboard and mouse. That would just be incredible. Apple is more than capable of finding ways to make that work.
That was just an Android device allowing a windowed view into the Android OS, right? There’s this and Samsung’s which was the same, providing a windowed view, not a complete separate OS. And, the existence of both is for folks that wanted a way to take that small phone view expanded to a larger screen outside the device. Not really the same as running two OS’s on the same device.This would just, never happen. But something like Motorola had with the Atrix.
Sure, iPad OS when it's an iPad makes tons of sense. But let me plug it in to a dock via the thunderbolt connector, and give me full macOS. Or, give me full macOS whenever it's connected to a keyboard and mouse. That would just be incredible. Apple is more than capable of finding ways to make that work.
True, only if the Corolla has the same engine as the sportscar which I´m sure it doesn´t.This complaint is exactly like buying a high performance sports car capable of going 200 mph, then complaining because you live in the suburbs and have to observe the same 35 mph speed limit as the Toyota Corolla - then complaining about how great it would be if the company you bought the car from would install an expressway between your house and the grocery store.
it’s not iOS that’s limiting anything - it’s the lack of “Pro Level Apps”.
So, I don’t think console quality games are coming at wwdc, BUT I’d be willing to bet that more than one company looked at the 100 million Epic made on Fortnite and was like… “How much did you say we could port to iPad for?”Desktop class applications and console quality games coming in wwdc.
So, I don’t think console quality games are coming at wwdc, BUT I’d be willing to bet that more than one company looked at the 100 million Epic made on Fortnite and was like… “How much did you say we could port to iPad for?”
A lot of the top games nowadays support in app purchases, though. If they can do a iPad port for 10 million dollars and expect to make 20 million they didn’t even have on the balance sheets previously, that’s a strong factor in potentially seeing a GTA or Apex Legends.Epic made that amount in IAPs.
No doubt developers will earn more releasing a paid game on iOS compared to android, but they are not going to earn anywhere near that amount. What more a game like divinity sin which looks awesome on an iPad or Apple TV, but are not going to play well on an iPhone (due to the smaller display).
And I think that’s the biggest stumbling block. How many people are actually willing to pay $40-50 for an iPad port of popular games?
Well, it seems like Civ 6 has done well.Epic made that amount in IAPs.
No doubt developers will earn more releasing a paid game on iOS compared to android, but they are not going to earn anywhere near that amount. What more a game like divinity sin which looks awesome on an iPad or Apple TV, but are not going to play well on an iPhone (due to the smaller display).
And I think that’s the biggest stumbling block. How many people are actually willing to pay $40-50 for an iPad port of popular games?
The Atrix actually booted a separate instance of ARM Linux, that ran its own apps, which also included android running in a window.That was just an Android device allowing a windowed view into the Android OS, right? There’s this and Samsung’s which was the same, providing a windowed view, not a complete separate OS. And, the existence of both is for folks that wanted a way to take that small phone view expanded to a larger screen outside the device. Not really the same as running two OS’s on the same device.
Don’t get your hopes up. It’s not expected on the pros.This whole thing is Apple saying, no AMOLED yet, but take this , hopefully you wont notice the difference.
No thanks, Im waiting for Amoled M1X iPad
I can’t really see how it would feasibly work. If I dock my iPad I don’t want it to suddenly change into another os. I want to keep working as is. Don’t you?I’m not necessarily suggesting the same should happen here. But I would love to see some sort of a “full OS when docked” solution.
Not to mention it would be an odd context switch. How would the two operating systems keep work synchronized?I can’t really see how it would feasibly work. If I dock my iPad I don’t want it to suddenly change into another os. I want to keep working as is. Don’t you?
The only option is, which is what they’ll do, is to continue to advance iPadOS feature set wise.
Oh, no, I understand. I’m just trying to understand more about these other solutions that are referenced. Seeing what’s been offered before helps to understand what might be possible. And, this is a very interesting tidbit of info, I’ll have to look further into that.The Atrix actually booted a separate instance of ARM Linux, that ran its own apps, which also included android running in a window.
I’m not necessarily suggesting the same should happen here. But I would love to see some sort of a “full OS when docked” solution.
For sure! Apple could do this really well if Apple was sufficiently motivated to do so.Oh, no, I understand. I’m just trying to understand more about these other solutions that are referenced. Seeing what’s been offered before helps to understand what might be possible. And, this is a very interesting tidbit of info, I’ll have to look further into that.
I like what happens currently when I connect to the Magic Keyboard. Everything’s pretty much the same, and the added command/option keys and trackpad are just there waiting to be used. The main UI difference I THINK is that when you tap into a text box, the onscreen keyboard doesn’t pop up automatically. Really slick and seamless.
I can’t really see how it would feasibly work. If I dock my iPad I don’t want it to suddenly change into another os. I want to keep working as is. Don’t you?
The only option is, which is what they’ll do, is to continue to advance iPadOS feature set wise.
Maybe it’s just me but I wouldn’t want the UI to suddenly change.Not necessarily. I’m sure Apple, if motivated, could come up with a much better solution than I ever could. But yeah; imagining the UI ‘shell’ on top of the OS radically changing when docked, into a keyboard/mouse centric solution (but running all the same apps and stuff, everything continuing to run as before, just switching interfaces); I think that would be really cool. I think developers could also make their apps ‘aware’ of which mode the iPad was in, and could change their UI’s too when necessary.
For sure; and as it matures it’ll get that much better.Maybe it’s just me but I wouldn’t want the UI to suddenly change.
Apples solution, I think it’s clear, is iPadOS. It’s still a young fork, so there is plenty of headway to add features perceived as missing from more established os’.