New iPad Pro Reviews: Mini-LED Display Looks Great, M1 Performance Held Back by iPadOS

[Duckyduckbumps]

Display extension on an external display is a must, not just mirroring.

 

[blackcrayon]

iPadOS should feature some apps in smaller, movable windows, like the weather and calculator app. Taking from the design of a desktop.

Agreed - Apps with iPhone layouts available should optionally run in that mode since the apple silicon Mac can do it at this point. Obviously the "window" system needs to be expanded or overhauled for it to be useful.

 

[Crow_Servo]

I don’t understand why Apple didn’t announce the new iPads at WWDC along with updates to iPad OS. It would make sense to announce the two together.

Either way, the software they announce next month won’t be officially available until the fall, so these iPad Pros would still be launching ahead of the new software.

The only way to time them together would be to release these Pros in the fall right before the new iPadOS update. But it’s probably better to have these iPads out as early as possible, so app developers can get a head start on implementing new updates that will take advantage of both the new hardware and iPadOS 15.

Just my two cents.

 

[Lemon Olive]

I don’t disagree but I think the difference in sales can be accounted for by:

1) The Mac had just updated to Apple Silicon which a lot of people were waiting for (I purchased exactly because of this).

2) People we’re waiting for the updated iPad before upgrading (that’s exactly what I was doing). I have the new 12.9” being delivered next week. Despite what people are telling themselves on the interwebs, it is absolutely worth upgrading the 2018 model IPP. Leave it any longer and you will lose a lot of cash on resale. Right now, the resale value offsets the cost of the new model to something much more palatable than skipping this model and buying the next model.

I think the sales this year of iPads may surprise people, even given supposed chip shortages.

Sales of iPad never surprise anyone. Not in the entire history of product.

 

[The Game 161]

Let’s see what iOS 15 brings…my M1 12.9 arrives tomorrow hopefully so looking forward to trying the new screen

 

[seek3r]

This would just, never happen. But something like Motorola had with the Atrix.

Sure, iPad OS when it's an iPad makes tons of sense. But let me plug it in to a dock via the thunderbolt connector, and give me full macOS. Or, give me full macOS whenever it's connected to a keyboard and mouse. That would just be incredible. Apple is more than capable of finding ways to make that work.

I'd be fine with that alternative, I think it might be too inconsistent for Apple though

 

[Unregistered 4U]

This would just, never happen. But something like Motorola had with the Atrix.

Sure, iPad OS when it's an iPad makes tons of sense. But let me plug it in to a dock via the thunderbolt connector, and give me full macOS. Or, give me full macOS whenever it's connected to a keyboard and mouse. That would just be incredible. Apple is more than capable of finding ways to make that work.

That was just an Android device allowing a windowed view into the Android OS, right? There’s this and Samsung’s which was the same, providing a windowed view, not a complete separate OS. And, the existence of both is for folks that wanted a way to take that small phone view expanded to a larger screen outside the device. Not really the same as running two OS’s on the same device.

 

[Pimmp]

This complaint is exactly like buying a high performance sports car capable of going 200 mph, then complaining because you live in the suburbs and have to observe the same 35 mph speed limit as the Toyota Corolla - then complaining about how great it would be if the company you bought the car from would install an expressway between your house and the grocery store.

it’s not iOS that’s limiting anything - it’s the lack of “Pro Level Apps”.

True, only if the Corolla has the same engine as the sportscar which I´m sure it doesn´t.
iOS or apps problem might be an individual point of view. To me a fully a equipped Ipad pro M1 is more expensive than a M1 air. Macbook can run iOS apps (i know, only a few so far) but not the other way around.
With that said I do own a Ipad Pro 11" with keyboard. I love it but can not justify the price due to lack of power apps. When Apple equipped it with M1 then my expectations is far higher than. Fix that and the combination would whipe surface pro from existance.

 

[aleni]

Desktop class applications and console quality games coming in wwdc.

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Desktop class applications and console quality games coming in wwdc.

So, I don’t think console quality games are coming at wwdc, BUT I’d be willing to bet that more than one company looked at the 100 million Epic made on Fortnite and was like… “How much did you say we could port to iPad for?”

 

[Abazigal]

So, I don’t think console quality games are coming at wwdc, BUT I’d be willing to bet that more than one company looked at the 100 million Epic made on Fortnite and was like… “How much did you say we could port to iPad for?”

Epic made that amount in IAPs.

No doubt developers will earn more releasing a paid game on iOS compared to android, but they are not going to earn anywhere near that amount. What more a game like divinity sin which looks awesome on an iPad or Apple TV, but are not going to play well on an iPhone (due to the smaller display).

And I think that’s the biggest stumbling block. How many people are actually willing to pay $40-50 for an iPad port of popular games?

 

[Unregistered 4U]

Epic made that amount in IAPs.

No doubt developers will earn more releasing a paid game on iOS compared to android, but they are not going to earn anywhere near that amount. What more a game like divinity sin which looks awesome on an iPad or Apple TV, but are not going to play well on an iPhone (due to the smaller display).

And I think that’s the biggest stumbling block. How many people are actually willing to pay $40-50 for an iPad port of popular games?

A lot of the top games nowadays support in app purchases, though. If they can do a iPad port for 10 million dollars and expect to make 20 million they didn’t even have on the balance sheets previously, that’s a strong factor in potentially seeing a GTA or Apex Legends.

And again, I don’t expect the iPad to get console quality games, but I just think that any game company with a game that has IAP’s HAS to be paying attention to those numbers, regardless if they actually release anything or not

 

[Tommy c]

I should have mine today. But the big deal for me with the iPad is a can’t deep search PDF files properly to search.

that is a big limitation of iPadOS.

 

[The Game 161]

Mine is at home ready to unbox. I’m sure the experience is the same but the new screen will certainly be good to test out.

 

[DoubleFlyaway]

Epic made that amount in IAPs.

No doubt developers will earn more releasing a paid game on iOS compared to android, but they are not going to earn anywhere near that amount. What more a game like divinity sin which looks awesome on an iPad or Apple TV, but are not going to play well on an iPhone (due to the smaller display).

And I think that’s the biggest stumbling block. How many people are actually willing to pay $40-50 for an iPad port of popular games?

Well, it seems like Civ 6 has done well.

 

[el-John-o]

That was just an Android device allowing a windowed view into the Android OS, right? There’s this and Samsung’s which was the same, providing a windowed view, not a complete separate OS. And, the existence of both is for folks that wanted a way to take that small phone view expanded to a larger screen outside the device. Not really the same as running two OS’s on the same device.

The Atrix actually booted a separate instance of ARM Linux, that ran its own apps, which also included android running in a window.

I’m not necessarily suggesting the same should happen here. But I would love to see some sort of a “full OS when docked” solution.

 

[vartanarsen]

This whole thing is Apple saying, no AMOLED yet, but take this , hopefully you wont notice the difference.

No thanks, Im waiting for Amoled M1X iPad

 

[The Game 161]

This whole thing is Apple saying, no AMOLED yet, but take this , hopefully you wont notice the difference.

No thanks, Im waiting for Amoled M1X iPad

Don’t get your hopes up. It’s not expected on the pros.

Apple seem mini led as the better option until micro.

 

[cupcakes2000]

I’m not necessarily suggesting the same should happen here. But I would love to see some sort of a “full OS when docked” solution.

I can’t really see how it would feasibly work. If I dock my iPad I don’t want it to suddenly change into another os. I want to keep working as is. Don’t you?

The only option is, which is what they’ll do, is to continue to advance iPadOS feature set wise.

 

[Sabelonada]

I can’t really see how it would feasibly work. If I dock my iPad I don’t want it to suddenly change into another os. I want to keep working as is. Don’t you?

The only option is, which is what they’ll do, is to continue to advance iPadOS feature set wise.

Not to mention it would be an odd context switch. How would the two operating systems keep work synchronized?

 

[Unregistered 4U]

The Atrix actually booted a separate instance of ARM Linux, that ran its own apps, which also included android running in a window.

I’m not necessarily suggesting the same should happen here. But I would love to see some sort of a “full OS when docked” solution.

Oh, no, I understand. I’m just trying to understand more about these other solutions that are referenced. Seeing what’s been offered before helps to understand what might be possible. And, this is a very interesting tidbit of info, I’ll have to look further into that.

I like what happens currently when I connect to the Magic Keyboard. Everything’s pretty much the same, and the added command/option keys and trackpad are just there waiting to be used. The main UI difference I THINK is that when you tap into a text box, the onscreen keyboard doesn’t pop up automatically. Really slick and seamless.

 

[el-John-o]

Oh, no, I understand. I’m just trying to understand more about these other solutions that are referenced. Seeing what’s been offered before helps to understand what might be possible. And, this is a very interesting tidbit of info, I’ll have to look further into that.

I like what happens currently when I connect to the Magic Keyboard. Everything’s pretty much the same, and the added command/option keys and trackpad are just there waiting to be used. The main UI difference I THINK is that when you tap into a text box, the onscreen keyboard doesn’t pop up automatically. Really slick and seamless.

For sure! Apple could do this really well if Apple was sufficiently motivated to do so.

I’m positive Apple has an iPad running a version of macOS with more touch UI elements. Whether it’ll ever be seen by end users is another story, though.

 

[el-John-o]

I can’t really see how it would feasibly work. If I dock my iPad I don’t want it to suddenly change into another os. I want to keep working as is. Don’t you?

The only option is, which is what they’ll do, is to continue to advance iPadOS feature set wise.

Not necessarily. I’m sure Apple, if motivated, could come up with a much better solution than I ever could. But yeah; imagining the UI ‘shell’ on top of the OS radically changing when docked, into a keyboard/mouse centric solution (but running all the same apps and stuff, everything continuing to run as before, just switching interfaces); I think that would be really cool. I think developers could also make their apps ‘aware’ of which mode the iPad was in, and could change their UI’s too when necessary.

 

[cupcakes2000]

Not necessarily. I’m sure Apple, if motivated, could come up with a much better solution than I ever could. But yeah; imagining the UI ‘shell’ on top of the OS radically changing when docked, into a keyboard/mouse centric solution (but running all the same apps and stuff, everything continuing to run as before, just switching interfaces); I think that would be really cool. I think developers could also make their apps ‘aware’ of which mode the iPad was in, and could change their UI’s too when necessary.

Maybe it’s just me but I wouldn’t want the UI to suddenly change.


Apples solution, I think it’s clear, is iPadOS. It’s still a young fork, so there is plenty of headway to add features perceived as missing from more established os’.

 

[el-John-o]

Maybe it’s just me but I wouldn’t want the UI to suddenly change.


Apples solution, I think it’s clear, is iPadOS. It’s still a young fork, so there is plenty of headway to add features perceived as missing from more established os’.

For sure; and as it matures it’ll get that much better.

There’s just a couple of things Lightroom won’t do on an iPad; and they’re absolute dealbreakers. Which is such a bummer, because that would be one stellar use case for me. Hopefully the software catches up!