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New iPads Expected in First Half of 2019, Including iPad Mini 5 With Similar Design as iPad Mini 4

mdellepi said:
So we'll have an Apple March event...

Do you think MBPs might be updated with the new Intel CPUs around that time or not? I need to buy one due to an unfortunate encounter of my 2013 MBP with the sidewalk... o_O
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There are no new Intel CPUs for Apple to update the MacBook Pro. Leaked Intel roadmaps have an 8-core 45w TDP H-Series CPUs possibly coming out in Q4/2019 and Q1/2020, codename Ghost Canyon.

Source: https://wccftech.com/intel-ghost-canyon-frost-canyon-nucs-9th-gen-core-i9-8-cores/

If you need a new MacBook Pro, you should go ahead and purchase one.
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Zxxv said:
Have you not been paying attention lately?

The last iPhones were cheap but they raised prices on the new ones. The last ipads were cheaper but they raised prices on the new ones.

The last Mac mini’s were... are you seeing the pattern yet
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Apple has a consistent, proven strategy with the iPad (6th Generation) and there is no reason to believe that the 7th Generation would not follow the same strategy folding the mini into the mix.

I would expect Apple to launch the 7th Gen iPad and 5th Gen iPad mini with the A11 Bionic at 32GB and 128GB, with both starting at $329. Same specs, but you simply choose the right size for you (10.5" or 7.9"). Apple Pencil support, TouchID, maybe the 12MP camera, 7MP FaceTime camera, 2-3GB of DRAM, 4K recording, etc.

Worse case is they raise the prices to $399 for the starting the 32GB version.

I would expect that once the new iPad is launched, Apple will discontinue the 10.5" iPad Pro. Just my 2¢. Cannot wait until Apple launches them.
 
shpankey said:
If what is reported is true, there’s no incentive to buy it at all over a 4.

Add pencil 2, ram bump, bezeless and a 12x cpu/gpu with upgraded display (rez bump, retina) and i’ll pay for 4 of them no matter the price. Even more come birthdays and Christmas. The size is so freaking perfectly perfect. Being small by nature makes it more durable (great for kids, so slimming isn’t needed/wanted). But I won’t buy what’s being touted here; ie: same thing with very minor, if any, changes. Hard f’kn PASS!

Don’t care for the faceid login, or notch, or wireless charging (glass, yuk) so good to leave it all out.
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Yeah I'm with you on that. My Mini 4 is still working fine it's just a little beat up. They take so long updating these things I was hoping for A12 for gaming and pretty much the same reason I like the newer chips on the iPhone. I don't care for FaceID or notch or wireless charging on a device this size either. Face ID is a pain too because with a bigger device that's often flat on the table or on my lap I don't feel like lining it up to my face "just so".

They treat the mini like an afterthought. I'd like to see a low cost version and a "pro" version. Oh well my whining about it won't solve anything.
 
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Zxxv said:
Have you not been paying attention lately?

The last iPhones were cheap but they raised prices on the new ones. The last ipads were cheaper but they raised prices on the new ones.

The last Mac mini’s were... are you seeing the pattern yet
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Apple greatly reduced the iPad price in 2017 when they sold the 5th generation at $329. Every other iPad since the original in 2010 started at $499 and the only substantial trade off between the Air 2 and the 2017 model was the loss of the laminated screen. For 2018 they did a spec bump from the A9 to A10 processor, added Pencil support to the screen, and kept the same $329 price. That seems to be the sweet spot for consumer tablets, so I don't look for a price increase this time around either.

True, the iPad Pro is priced substantially higher, but that product isn't really designed to be a consumer product. Looking at just the basic iPad prices have gone down.
 
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Baymowe335 said:
You can disagree, but Apple's strategy is not market share...or they'd have far lower pricing.
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I didn’t say anything about market share, I mentioned a price point that would get people to buy an iPad. If Apple sells a $229 iPad and that person pays $2.99 a month for iCloud storage and then $9.99 a month for Apple Music, that’s over $155 a year just in services and that’s not counting app purchases or Apple Care. The more people that own Apple products the more money they can make off of them.
 
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Spock said:
I didn’t say anything about market share, I mentioned a price point that would get people to buy an iPad. If Apple sells a $229 iPad and that person pays $2.99 a month for iCloud storage and then $9.99 a month for Apple Music, that’s over $155 a year just in services and that’s not counting app purchases or Apple Care. The more people that own Apple products the more money they can make off of them.
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You don’t think Apple understands that better than you? They will be priced to optimize services and hardware margins.
 
Spock said:
I know Apple understands it, my comment was directed at you. Wasn’t sure if you understood it.
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I have no choice but to understand Apple as a shareholder. I would like to see all products become services, even the use of the iPhone itself. I just don’t think the market is ready for a model like that...yet.
 
ghanwani said:
Isn't that the iPhone Upgrade Program?
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Somewhat, but not nearly widespread enough. I don't have numbers on this, but I bet most people still buy through carriers and other retailers. Direct from Apple is probably <10% of total sales. I could be wrong.

But I can see a future that Apple bundles their hardware and software into 1 monthly subscription price. The possibilities are endless and it gets people into a monthly fee cycle, which is great for business and people love being on monthly payments. It doesn't "feel" as expensive.
 
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Baymowe335 said:
But I can see a future that Apple bundles their hardware and software into 1 monthly subscription price. The possibilities are endless and it gets people into a monthly fee cycle, which is great for business and people love being on monthly payments. It doesn't "feel" as expensive.
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This might actually be worse because instead of feeling the pain once, you would feel it every month. It will become apparent how much money one is giving Apple month after month.

The Upgrade Program is not as successful because most people hold on to their devices more than 1 year to amortize/justify the price premium they are paying for an iPhone. You lose that if you go to the subscription model.

Just in jest...

What they need to do it act like Comcast. Lease customers a modem that costs them maybe $50 total, for $15/mo and never replace it until it breaks. Now you're talking!

How is this permitted?
https://www.thenation.com/article/america-has-a-monopoly-problem-and-its-huge/
 
TonyRS said:
Nothing in the tech world says "BUY ME" like a seven-year-old form factor.

*rolls eyes emoji*
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I'd take a 7 year old form factor (with updated internals) with good QC over a brand new device that has the risk of being bent. 10 out of 10 times. IMO, the old iPad design looks and feels much more premium than the new iPPs. Not sure who is OK'ing all the ugly designs at Apple.
 
Mac 128 said:
The Lightning Pencil is going to be around for a while, because there are a number of Pencil supported ipads on the market, currently being sold for at least another product cycle. Releasing what appears to be an intermediary mini will likewise support that standard, because it’s the cheapest option and it works with the vast majority of iOS products already on the market. Add to that the mini is widely used in businesses and by professionals who already have a Lightning infrastructure and third party Lightning accessories, so moving away from Lightning wouldn’t be good news, at least not without a major redesign, which we don’t appear to be getting.
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Your existing infrastructure comment can be applied to every single connector Apple has ever replaced. And certainly in my house we have a lightening based infrastructure for all the iPhones and iPads... but that didn't stop Apple from making the iPad Pro USB C. So I do think lightening connection will eventually be replaced. Not sure what the point is otherwise. As for the pencil, it doesn't make long term sense for Apple to support two pencils. Time will tell when that gets phased out too.
 
ghanwani said:
This might actually be worse because instead of feeling the pain once, you would feel it every month. It will become apparent how much money one is giving Apple month after month.

The Upgrade Program is not as successful because most people hold on to their devices more than 1 year to amortize/justify the price premium they are paying for an iPhone. You lose that if you go to the subscription model.

Just in jest...

What they need to do it act like Comcast. Lease customers a modem that costs them maybe $50 total, for $15/mo and never replace it until it breaks. Now you're talking!

How is this permitted?
https://www.thenation.com/article/america-has-a-monopoly-problem-and-its-huge/
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I would agree, but I don't think the majority would. I am likely wrong, or Apple would have pushed harder for this model.

I do know they'll try to push the subscription service model where they can.
 
I’m guessing an a11 since the iPad 2018 had an a10.

I guess it’ll be a big iPhone 8 plus with original Apple Pencil support - that suits me fine!
 
I think that this is a great move. The March event tends to be one where it produces solid products that are slightly behind the curve for people/institutions who are price sensitive and who don’t need the latest and greatest. I guess we’ll see a new iPad with the same specs as the mini. And I’m guessing they’ll essentially be iPad airs from a few years back.

I suspect that AirPower and EarPods two would’ve been launched last September but they weren’t quite ready, hence we are seeing them here.
 
Pencil support and upgraded internals sound great. I hope the camera gets updated too, and that a flash is added.
 
A11 and 4GB of RAM is all I need to upgrade my iPad mini 4. I don’t need FaceID. I do need a good quality, laminated display. The iPad mini 2/3 was heavily criticized for its display. Any device that has an A10 and only 2GB of RAM will probably lose iOS support in 2021. That would suck, even if you’re only paying $300 for it. All Apple needs to do is keep the iPad mini 4 body/display and add an A11/4GB of RAM with capacities of 64GB, 128GB and 256GB.
 
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dampfnudel said:
A11 and 4GB of RAM is all I need to upgrade my iPad mini 4. I don’t need FaceID. I do need a good quality, laminated display. The iPad mini 2/3 was heavily criticized for its display. Any device that has an A10 and only 2GB of RAM will probably lose iOS support in 2021. That would suck, even if you’re only paying $300 for it. All Apple needs to do is keep the iPad mini 4 body/display and add an A11/4GB of RAM with capacities of 64GB, 128GB and 256GB.
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I see 2 gb ram and a A11......just watch and see.......the Apple way....so they can price it at $349 even if it truly should be $199
 
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