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BRING BACK THE ORGANIC IPHONES!
Seriously, the iphone 4 has a great design, but the 3G and 3GS were so much more comfortable to hold. Maybe apple can use a curved glass back, so back can still feel strong.

Curved design is not optimal for computers. It wastes space. If you want it curved, get a curved case (such cases exist).
 
Notwithstanding the fact that it's a non-Apple mock up, the most obvious comparison isn't the Galaxy but the iPod Touch. I don't know how one could bring up the Galaxy S2 but not the iPod.

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Here's the iPod Touch

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Then again, I think it's pretty clear many here are just dying for the opportunity to point out the apparent irony Apple is copying Samsung.

The iPod Touch has one speaker, not stereo like the iPhone mockup. I doubt Apple will ever add stereo to iPod Touch. When you think about it, you never really use one without headphones or speakers.
 
"Longer and wider form factor".

Why not say: the iPhone5 will be larger than the iPhone4? Due to a larger screen.

Because longer and wider doesn't take into account thickness.

If it were 5.0" x 2.8" x 0.27" compared to the current 4.5" x 2.31" x 0.37" it would actually be slightly smaller in terms of area taken up.
 
Isnt this just alittle to thin to be an iphone?

I agree, I am not sure how they could get it that thin. Based on the components required to go into the device, I should say the components are not thin enough to fit in that case design. We simply are not there yet.

If anything we are looking at a new iPod Touch design.
 
There is no way in hell that this will have a 4" + screen. That would make it wider than a Droid X, which many people complain is too large. Apple screens are already quite close to the edge. If you go right to the edge you have problems just holding by the edges without triggering touch, you absolutely need some border.

Second factor is that they won't change the resolution again after one release. The will stay at the same resolution and they will want to keep 300 DPI minimum.

For both those reasons, the absolute max screen size is 3.85" (exactly 300 DPI).

Another Factor, Apple has a different screen ratio. So even 3.85" 3:2 screen is wider than 4.3" 16:9 Droid X screen.

For all of these reasons, I think the most credible rumor is a small bump to 3.7" - 3.8" max.

I agree that 3.7" / 3.8" is the most likely size due to the likelihood of the dpi staying above 300 and the resolution staying the same, but I wouldn't rule out anything above 3.85" as you do.

The Droid X is a bad comparison because it has a wider border. You could increase the iPhone screen size to 4" and it would add about 7mm to the width, which would put it on a par with the Droid X (a 3.85" iPhone screen may be wider than a 4.3" Droid X screen, but the overall phone would be narrower due to the thinner borders). However if the Droid X is considered too wide then I doubt Apple would go to the same width.

I also agree that there may be touch issues with an edge to edge screen, but I wouldn't put it past Apple to get round them. As a developer I was annoyed to find out that by default touching the area just below the navigation bar is considered as touching the navigation bar by the OS. I assume this is to make the touch area bigger on the nav bar but it was annoying when I wanted to have buttons immediately below the bar and touching the top few pixels of my buttons invoked the nav bar. There are ways round this but it shows that Apple do play around with touch areas for pragmatic reasons, so I wouldn't put it past them to do something similar with an edge to edge screen. For all I know they could be doing it already and that is how they get away with a smaller border than the Droid.

I agree that they probably won't go higher than 3.85" for exactly the reasons you state, but I wouldn't completely rule it out. If you'd asked me about the chance of a 960x640 pixel screen in the iPhone 4 a month or two before it was announced then I would have been very sceptical.

My heart still thinks there is a chance of something similarly innovative even if my head is expecting a 4GS type of upgrade.
 
The iPod Touch has one speaker, not stereo like the iPhone mockup. I doubt Apple will ever add stereo to iPod Touch. When you think about it, you never really use one without headphones or speakers.

Stereo speaker?

Isn´t that just one speaker and one mic, like on all the past iPhones?
 
Agreed entirely. Unfortunately people have been conditioned to think the diagonal length is the actual screen size when it means little without taking the aspect ratio into account. I've had a couple incidents that went like this:

Friend: Wow, your 4" Android phone screen is so large
Me: Not really, it's just about the same width as my iPod Touch display, just longer up and down
Friend: No way, it's 4", gotta be much bigger than 3.5"

And they are shocked when I put them side by side. The numbers can be quite deceiving.

That is the actual screen size. if you want to compare what can actually be displayed on the screen and square footage, that is a different story. Same problem when tvs switched to wide screens. A 27 inch wide screen seemed smaller than a standard 27, but they were both 27 inches diagonally.
 
Agreed.

If you prefer the small size of the iPhone4 then keep your iPhone4.

I can promise you, no one from Apple will come round and point a gun at your head forcing you to buy an iPhone5.

Or Apple could do a "Shock Horror" tactic of making more than 1 phone :eek:

A Shock Horror tactic of more than one phone... That would be awesome!!!
 
Why this is another bogus report.

The case is fake because the iPhone won't have a bigger screen. All you have to is apply a small of logic to see that:

1. Apple won't dilute the pixel density because the whole theory of the Retina display 'brand' is that the ppi was determined to be close to exactly the right density of 326 ppi so that pixels are indistinguishable by the human eye. So how/why would Apple turn around now and say 'oh well we didn't really need those extra pixels so we are going to dilute the density down to 300 ppi (for example) so that we can make the screen a little larger'.

2. They won't add new pixels and in turn increase the screen resolution. iOS 5 is due for release in September and there hasn't been any communication to developers that they need to start producing images at a new higher resolution. The retina @2x standard has been set, this won't change.

Think about it.
 
Wide enough to be easy to hold in a man's hand. I have always hated narrow phones and I don't even have big hands. Thin would be fantastic, easier to slip in a pocket and if it is longer that is a plus in my book too. Phones that are short seem to have too much gain on the mic since it isn't close to your mouth. That means it picks up everything and even wind noise seems worse too.

Apple might finally be getting close to making a phone I might actually buy. Not that I need or want a smart phone. I'd love to get thin, long and wide in a plain jane flip phone.

Now Apple, About that computer I wish you'd make...
 
Is this what apple users have come down to? :(

Rather, I believe this is what Apple has achieved by releasing a series of successful products appealing to users and proving their ability to churn out good product. If I watch an excellent movie from a director, I am willing to blindingly take my chance with the director again, and Apple's recent record is arguably better than any living movie director.
 
Rather, I believe this is what Apple has achieved by releasing a series of successful products appealing to users and proving their ability to churn out good product. If I watch an excellent movie from a director, I am willing to blindingly take my chance with the director again, and Apple's recent record is arguably better than any living movie director.

do you know a movie director by the name of Christopher Nolan?

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Rather, I believe this is what Apple has achieved by releasing a series of successful products appealing to users and proving their ability to churn out good product. If I watch an excellent movie from a director, I am willing to blindingly take my chance with the director again, and Apple's recent record is arguably better than any living movie director.

I fail to see how a company's financial success guarantees the quality and competitive performance of a yet unreleased product. Take the iPhone 4 for example: It is a great device at everything other than being a phone. This is mostly due to its signal reception issues and low battery performance both of which are the basic deciding factors for choosing a phone.

I'm not trying to be pedantic, but It should go without saying that when a self-respecting person decides to shed a ton of money on a purchase they do so after some thorough market research.
 
I fail to see how a company's financial success guarantees the quality and competitive performance of a yet unreleased product. Take the iPhone 4 for example: It is a great device at everything other than being a phone. This is mostly due to its signal reception issues and low battery performance both of which are the basic deciding factors for choosing a phone.

I'm not trying to be pedantic, but It should go without saying that when a self-respecting person decides to shed a ton of money on a purchase they do so after some thorough market research.

Are you crazy? The iPhone 4 has one of the best (if not the best) battery life numbers in the smartphone segment.
 
Are you crazy? The iPhone 4 has one of the best (if not the best) battery life numbers in the smartphone segment.

No I'm not, but you certainly must be. Either that or you're desperately uninformed!

Iphone 4
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Po 1420mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h (2G) / Up to 300 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 14 h (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)
Since I own this I can tell that these numbers are false and you'll be lucky to get 6 hours of talk time out of it with an average standby time of 48 hours.

Lets see how others do though:

Nokia E6
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh (BP-4L)
Stand-by Up to 681 h (2G) / Up to 744 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 14 h 48 min (2G) / Up to 7 h 30 min (3G)


Samsung Galaxy SII - Dual Core
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Ion 1650 mAh
Stand-by Up to 710 h (2G) / Up to 610 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 18 h 20 min (2G) / Up to 8 h 40 min (3G)
 
I fail to see how a company's financial success guarantees the quality and competitive performance of a yet unreleased product.

And how did they achieve the financial success? By making a series of appealing products. When you have a successful history of delivering results, people begin to trust you.

Take the iPhone 4 for example: It is a great device at everything other than being a phone. This is mostly due to its signal reception issues and low battery performance both of which are the basic deciding factors for choosing a phone.

In other words, you think Nokia and RIM should be dominating the market since they are considered the best at reception and battery performance, which is the opposite of the market trend.

And as an owner of Galaxy S, I can assure you that its battery life isn't that great when you begin to use its screen, definitely significantly less than iPhone 4. It's been proven in benchmarks too.

I'm not trying to be pedantic, but It should go without saying that when a self-respecting person decides to shed a ton of money on a purchase they do so after some thorough market research.

I don't think you're being pedantic. It's just that you're trying to use own judgement criteria when the market says otherwise.
 
No I'm not, but you certainly must be. Either that or you're desperately uninformed!

Iphone 4
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Po 1420mAh
Stand-by Up to 300 h (2G) / Up to 300 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 14 h (2G) / Up to 7 h (3G)
Since I own this I can tell that these numbers are false and you'll be lucky to get 6 hours of talk time out of it with an average standby time of 48 hours.

Lets see how others do though:

Nokia E6
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Ion 1500 mAh (BP-4L)
Stand-by Up to 681 h (2G) / Up to 744 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 14 h 48 min (2G) / Up to 7 h 30 min (3G)


Samsung Galaxy SII - Dual Core
BATTERY Standard battery, Li-Ion 1650 mAh
Stand-by Up to 710 h (2G) / Up to 610 h (3G)
Talk time Up to 18 h 20 min (2G) / Up to 8 h 40 min (3G)

Thoose numbers are complete BULLS**T!

I have the iP4, and my buddy has the SII. The iPhone walks all over the samsung when it comes to battery life.

The Nokia E6 has fine battery life, but with 3G usage it drains it FAST.
 
If the 5 is THAT much bigger/wider then the iPhone 4 is looking very appealing right now. It is a handheld/pocket device, after all.

I agree. Ive see the google phones and they are just to big for pockets. If it is wider and taller i think i'll snap up a cheap iphone 4 instead!
:)
 
do you know a movie director by the name of Christopher Nolan?

While movie directors and electronics designers are a strange comparison and a little off topic, I would have have to agree with you taste in directors. Nolan is my favorite living director. My favorite who is not longer with us would be the genius Kubrick.
 
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