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How about they actually measure color accuracy, rather than having untrained eyes look at oversaturated displays and think they look better. iPhone display accuracy is unmatched. If you want oversaturated colors meant to fool consumers into thinking its more vivid, then yea I guess iPhone is "no match" for them.
 
Look, I'm a huge Apple fan and my house is littered with their products (10 at last count). I've also owned and used one iteration or another of the iPhone since its introduction. That said, I want a bigger screen! Apple has the cash, resources, and talent to put out multiple models including one with a bigger screen. Why is it so hard for Tim and Co. to comprehend that while some folks like the portability of the current form factor others want a bigger screen (both in height and width). Time to get off the pot, Apple.
 
As the saying goes, the iPhone 5 and 5S are both the best selling 4 inch phones you can get. If that is what you want.. It's like the Honda Accord or the Toyota Camry are probably the best selling cars in their class if that is what you want.

The thing is, not everyone wants to drive an accord or Camry. Many want SUVs or minivans. There is nothing wrong with that but it is what it is.

The wife has an iPhone 5 and I have a Lumia 1020. She loves her phone and I love mine. There are software features I wish WP8 had (alerts for missed calls, text, etc, notification center, control center.)and there are things that WP8 does that she wish iPhone did. (Live tile, AWESOME camera, info on the lock screen, etc..).. The arguing of my phone is better than yours is old. No one made me buy a Windows Phone and no one made me get my wife an iPhone. We bought them buy choice and if/when were are unhappy, both of us have the option to try the other OS or go to Android. JUST LIKE YOU!!!

I am glad that iOS and android are knocking on Billion apps. Sooner or later, that won't be selling point.. I can just hearing Tim Cook saying in a couple of years (We have 2 BILLION APPS, wooo peeee deee doo, I can't wait to try them all one day. RIGHT?). smartphone owners will never own/ regularly using anything close to a 100 of them. If I had to count how many apps I NEED on a phone, I think I would struggle after 15-20 and I am sure most would as well. Apps that help you make it through the day or week, not games that you play to kill a few mins.

Apple is even slowing killing apps in it's own store..... How many of you have downloaded or used another flashlight app since the control center in iOS now has one?...

This. I can't deal with people saying 'NO WE don't want a phone that doesn't fit in my pocket and we don't want a phone that can't be operated with one hand only.'

Wake up people. The one-handed use is something invented by Chiat\Day Los Angeles (the agency behind their ads and everything visual apple does) to justify their inability to provide a 4.7+ inch screen at the time because, mind you, they'd have to add a quarter of a millimeter to the device to accommodate a bigger battery that lasts all day.

When iPhone 6 is released next year and it's no longer usable with one hand, I guarantee you that Jony Ive won't talk about how the phone was designed with your thumb size in mind. And their BS commercial showing how you can go from the left bottom corner to the right top one will be long gone.

I love Apple and I love my iPhone but it's about freaking time they start answering their consumers needs better. Everyone around me has an iPhone. 98% of the owners all agree. They want a bigger screen.

I don't care about 64-bits, I don't care about more wireless bands to travel with my iPhone 5S to Bangkok and surf LTE faster than in L.A. I'd like to have a phone with a bigger screen. The iPhone has never been sold like a phone. It's been marketed from day one as a do it all device. ('Oh yes, it's also a phone') Reading web pages and email is fine today but would be greatly improved by more real estate.

Let's hope they make that happen next time around.
 
I have the S4 and worry about the battery all the time since getting it. Never really worried about it on my iPhone before, only when using the camera a lot.

Although a lot of my worrying might be because Android has the battery graph and I'm always checking it... lol

I use my s4 constantly throughout the day and in the evening i have like 10-15% left which is enough for me.
 
Not for TVs. I suspect the same logic goes into this evaluation of phones too.

TV size is chosen for the intended application. No one claims the 65" TV is objectively better than the same model 50" TV because it is bigger.
 
I have seen some phablet displays and they are beautiful. But holding them can be extremely frustrating. I need a phone with one-handed use and these phablets require two hands. They also take up a lot more space in my pocket which can be annoying. I hope Apple can make the iPhone's screen larger without making the phone itself bigger. The iPhone 5 is large enough for my taste.

As for battery life, Apple needs to step it up. I get just 4 1/2 hours on my iPhone 5. Battery life is my only gripe about the iPhone.

Bring that phone to the Apple store, it's broken.
 
Android phones don't really suffer from it anymore, and haven't for about 18 months now. The newer Android versions handle multiple resolutions very well.

This is the way it's supposed to be. If apps are made properly, they can scale nicely to any resolution. It's called responsive design.

If you've got a modern android device, and the app opens up all messed up - thats the developers fault for not following basic design principles.

At some point Apple will be forced to do the same, with resolution changes happening every couple of years, allowing responsive app design in iOS will eventually happen - it then makes no difference if your device is 640x960, 1024x768 or higher - all apps will adapt to the space that's provided to it.

I know what responsive design is, but it means apps come out with very basic design templates that don't feel specific. For example a lot of examples of responsive design involve lazy developers cutting out a load of content and oversimplifying the app. I like the fact that on the App Store stuff feels like it is customised specifically for 1 or 2 resolutions.

Sure you will get examples of apps that work responsively well, but the general standard is poor, which it is on Google Play.
 
The phone itself has huge bearing too. Many Android phones have rather mediocre batteries, while a few (sadly just a few) have exceptional batteries. I have a Nexus 4 that I've been test-driving for a few weeks. I've had days where the battery seems to evaporate. Others where it lasts ok. I'm presuming due to background apps at this point.

Yeah man you are right.
 
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Wait...is that 24hrs standby or talk time for the droid phones? Cause that is a BIG distinction.
 
CR is one weird publication. They combine opinion with strange ways to compare electronic devices. Why are they comparing a 4" screen with a 5" etc. Of course if you make a phone huge you can fit more battery in it. Does it make a phone better to have a larger screen? Anyway CR really is bad at electronics but they are good with vacuums.
 
One Minute Test

Get a friend's Android. Hold it in your hand using any operation. Now do the same with the Apple 5. Size matters both ways!
 
I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that the iPhone 6 is going to come with a larger screen option. It's the most natural progression at this point and besides, nowadays, sadly, if you want to see where the iPhone's going, look at today's Android device.
 
they pretty much have to increase the display size at this point.
Two reasons.
First, their competitors in Asia all have multiple models with larger displays.
Second, baby boomers still make up a significant buying block. And being old as dirt their eyesight is obviously going to be worse for the most part.
Larger displays are better than simply enlarging the font on a small display.
 
The devices they rated higher were the Droid, Droid Maxx, and Droid Mini.

Here is the list of phones that score higher than the 5s

Samsung Galaxy S4
Samsung Galaxy S4 Active
LG Optimus G
HTC One
Motorola Droid Maxx
Motorola Droid Ultra

The Galaxy S3 gets the same score (76-78 depending on the carrier) as the 5s but for whatever reason is always listed above the 5s. Simply looking at the chart one would get the impression that the 5s is "average."

Digging more deeply, essentially all the phones get excellent ratings for ease of use, messaging, web browsing, and display quality. They all get "good" (i.e. average) for voice quality. The other phones tend to outscore on "phoning" (which includes "holding in hand during call" and "keypad readability under various lighting conditions") and battery life. The 5s outscores all on video camera quality and portability. From my analysis, it is the battery life that is hurting the iPhone. It is "good" while the Galaxy S4, Droid Maxx, LG Optimus, and HTC One are "excellent." The Droid Ultra is "Very Good" for battery life.

So if Apple made the 5s 3mm thicker and put in a battery 50% larger, it would probably leap to the top. Not that I think Jony Ive would ever do that.
 
I don't know why everyone wants to bash Consumer Reports? They are right.

Consumer Reports does sometimes take a kind of deliberately naive approach to new technology, but, one thing they have going for them is a lack of the obvious bias that you get almost everywhere else. One reason that I (still) read them occasionally is that sometimes they will point out obvious deficiencies that enthusiasts and shills overlook.

Screen size and battery life have really be lagging in the iPhone compared to android. If Apple could just improve the iPhone in those two areas, it would go a long way in showing how much of a better experience the iPhone provides compared to android.

My experience with Android phones from 1-2 years ago was that battery life was not as good an iPhone 4S. Has there been a big improvement with recent phones? Is the improvement due to Android improvements, or, fatter batteries in those big phones? I'm really not into phablets myself.

The only Android phone I've had regular exposure to, and this is only in the past two months, is my wife's S3, and so my experiences are limited.

Can you get an Android phone with a screen size that matches the 5x range of Apple iOS devices? ie; a smaller screen (fairly sure the S3 is 4.8 inches)

If you can, do the usual networks / carriers / stores, sell them?

I'm wondering if perhaps the whole "people want larger screens" is really in fact "people don't have a choice of selecting a new phone with a smaller screen", as if you cannot get the latest and greatest Android based phone with a smaller screen, then you're a little stuffed, as you have to get whatever size is on the device.

I think it makes sense for everything to be some type of phablet. That is, everything is a phone and a tablet -- the argument is just over how big the tablet part is. I'm very happy with the 4S's display, and, it fits in my pocket. Others have differing preferences. I don't think Apple needs 97 models (I don't know the real number) like Samsung, but, I think 3-4 sizes would be appropriate. And, even a big tablet needs a phone component. Again -- everything is a phablet, but, you choose what screen size you want.


One thing that is overlooked in many of these discussions is that the new iPhone 5S mainline GSM model will work on both AT&T, T-Mobile, and most places internationally. Combine that with T-Mobile's new roaming plan, and I think you have something that international travelers have been waiting for. I don't know of another phone/carrier with comparable inter-country portability, although perhaps all the latest GSM phones are going that way. If so, that is good news-- it certainly wasn't true a year ago.
 
How about they actually measure color accuracy, rather than having untrained eyes look at oversaturated displays and think they look better. iPhone display accuracy is unmatched. If you want oversaturated colors meant to fool consumers into thinking its more vivid, then yea I guess iPhone is "no match" for them.

The iPhone still has a really good display, but even last year it was coming up second to the likes of the HTC One X. We've now gone a generation beyond that with improved performance in the HTC One and the LG G 2.
 
Here's the Consumer Report review of the next BMW M3/4

The car is well-built, lighter, faster and more powerful than it's predecessor while remaining near the same price point.

However, it does not manage to carry as many passengers as the Audi Q7 or a Yellow School Bus and has a seriously slower top speed than a Porsche 918 Spyder and a McLaren P1.

We were also disappointed in it's inabiluty to run on Diesel fuel like a Chevy Silverado Dually truck.

The M3/M4 fared poorly on off-road terrain compared to A Ford SVT Raptor.

Seriously, WTF?
 
I love Apple and I love my iPhone but it's about freaking time they start answering their consumers needs better. Everyone around me has an iPhone. 98% of the owners all agree. They want a bigger screen.

I don't.

I don't care about 64-bits, I don't care about more wireless bands to travel with my iPhone 5S to Bangkok and surf LTE faster than in L.A.

Funny, those are all things that I do care about.

I'd like to have a phone with a bigger screen. The iPhone has never been sold like a phone. It's been marketed from day one as a do it all device. ('Oh yes, it's also a phone') Reading web pages and email is fine today but would be greatly improved by more real estate.

Let's hope they make that happen next time around.

Let's hope they offer sizes that each of us will prefer. What is your ideal size and display resolution?
 
Just because they bashed Apple, doesn't mean they're not good.

Exactly, people were quoting them left and right when they declared the iPhone 'the best smartphone in the market' a few years back.

Love them or hate them, they are very respectable.
 
I think it's pretty much a foregone conclusion that the iPhone 6 is going to come with a larger screen option. It's the most natural progression at this point and besides, nowadays, sadly, if you want to see where the iPhone's going, look at today's Android device.

Hopefully it's an option and not "4.8/5/5.7 inches is now the perfect size," though. Not everyone likes how phones are getting bigger. My sister, for one, would likely not buy a larger iPhone 6. Portability is important, too. If they can narrow the bezel and/or use a curved screen to cram a bigger screen into a device roughly the same size, that's fine, but "bigger" for "bigger's" sake would be a step back.

I disagree with the assertion that looking at today's Android tells you what tomorrow's iPhone will look like. If so, then Apple would have added a quad-core 32-bit ARM v7-based processor with 2GB of RA to the 5s rather than making the leap to 64-bit ARM v8 and optimizing memory management to keep RAM size at 1GB. They'd also have added NFC and some not-ready-for-prime-time gimmicks like eye tracking.

To date, Apple has had a different design philosophy from Android OEMs.
 
Just because they bashed Apple, doesn't mean they're not good.

This has nothing to do with them bashing Apple. Consumer Reports are what my grandparents read when they want to know which DVD/VCR combo to buy. Then they go to Sears and get it.

In this day and age I go to Best Buy to view and try the item, pull out my iPhone and scan the item to find reviews online, and then purchase it from somewhere like NewEgg, B&H or Amazon. Consumer Reports is irrelevant and dying a slow death. I'm not even talking just about electronics. I did this recently with a microwave at Best Buy, a grill at Lowes, and even a saw stand at Home Depot.

I've flipped through my grandparent's CS magazine and I can tell you that most of the time they're completely wrong. Case in point is saying that Android devices have the best battery life. My mother in law charges her Galaxy multiple times during the day. Every time she comes over she has to sit on the end of our couch that is by the outlet so she can keep replying to texts without it dying. It's pretty ridiculous. Only reason she has it is because she can read the larger screen better. She is willing to get a bigger iPhone if it becomes available. Same thing with my boss' husband.

I wouldn't be surprised if Android manufacturers provide CS with "special units" just like they were trying to game the system for benchmarks and were called out on it recently.
 
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