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I have to agree, battery life is terrible. I want my phone to last all day, but sadly I have to charge it mid-day while at work. Not sure why Apple doesn't increase battery life...
 
Interesting but size aside, I prefer the quality of the iPhones LCD screen. Im not sure what it is, maybe just my eyes, but I haven't found an Amoled screen I like yet. The Samsung screens look especially odd to me and Ive owned a G2, G3 and G4 strictly for website testing purposes and I think all the screens are kind of horrible, weird colours, sort of something "wrong" with them thats hard to say - just doesn't look natural.

The Sony Xperia Z is prob the best of the bunch, but still id honestly rather have LCD, theres no way you'd be able to run iOS7 on an AMOLED screen with all the white, the battery would last an hour! and im just not one for white writing on a black screen...reminds me of Microsoft Dos.
 
I have 3G on, BlueTooth on sometimes for my car and Wi-Fi on all the time. Apps like Sky News, Facebook, banking, weather, email, iMessage/SMS, Internet... you know, normal stuff. Screen brightness at about 70%. Background updates and everything else on.

I don't spend hours talking to people, though. I hardly use it to call people, to be honest.

I still don't get it. I've never had that much luck with my 4S or 5. I get a day out at most; 30 mins in calls, no text messages, emails set to check every 15 mins, BT+Wifi+3G on, screen brightness at 10% (don't mind it dark).

I use mine for music but not video.
 
Not shocking at all. Apple can keep the current iphone size but they a larger screen version. A 4.7 would be perfect.

The screen size the one of the things keeping me awat from iphone 5s.

I had an iPhone4 and just recently upgraded to the 5S. I am enjoying the overall feel as the screen is only .5" bigger and the layout allows me to continue one hand operation use.

I think that the problem of having too big a screen creates a portability problem. with my iPhone4 (the ideal size I felt) it was great being able to stick the device into virtually any pocket size, and you could always get belt clips that did not adversely create this giant TEXAS size buckle on your belt.

with the iPhon5S, it's similar in size, but I do notice the extra screen size that I would argue is not needed on a daily basis. Maybe as my eyesight starts to diminish, I may feel like I need to run around with an iPad Mini with cellular?
 
Do tell me how many "average" people care about or even know what 64bit architecture is.

It's not really a selling point. Sorry. Future-proofing yes. Some advantages currently depending on the software, sure. But not remotely thrilling to the masses.

I never stated that these average people care about 64bit, and that's part of what I'm getting at. I don't think "better battery" and "better screen" as they're tested here are selling points either. I think people don't care about battery life (*as it was tested here) because you're powering a different screen, using different apps, applying a different workload, etc (it's subjective). Same with the screen, the average person doesn't necessarily associate a larger screen with being a better screen - Well maybe the "average, uninformed" person does. I think more aspects of the screen and battery should be judged to say one is better than the other.

I am content with my iPhone at 4" and was content with an iPhone at 3.5" If Apple came out with a 5.5" device, I'd likely stay with the 4" as long as it wasn't discontinued because the size of my 4" screen device feels right. I suppose I consider myself a fairly average consumer and that others would feel the same about screen size to a point.
 
Many prominent Android devices have terrible battery leakage issues, unlike iPhones.

On paper, Android may have larger capacity batteries, but for me anyways, the iPhone lasts longer.
 
You gotta get out more. Lol.
But here's a hint, 1080P. At pixel densities above 380+ PPI , dont think pixel layout matters. You just gotta be able willing to see things as they are.


Displaymate says GS4 the red and blue pixels on the GS4 pentile OLED screen is only 312 sub pixels per inch, while on the iphone 5, its 326 ppi all across the board for its colors

http://www.displaymate.com/Galaxy_S4_ShootOut_1.htm

so that is what he means by "how is pentile OLED sharper then IPS LCD"
 
You seem to be under the wrong impression that all Android manufacturers use PenTile OLED and Apple is the only one who uses IPS. The Nexus 4 from LG+Google used IPS for its 4.8" display to name one and it is a fantastic display. Also, not all OLED displays that are used in smartphones happen to be PenTile.

hence why he said Pentile OLED, GS4 uses pentile OLED, and the droid line/moto x itself has lower PPI then the iphone 5/5s
 
Interesting but size aside, I prefer the quality of the iPhones LCD screen. Im not sure what it is, maybe just my eyes, but I haven't found an Amoled screen I like yet. The Samsung screens look especially odd to me and Ive owned a G2, G3 and G4 strictly for website testing purposes and I think all the screens are kind of horrible, weird colours, sort of something "wrong" with them thats hard to say - just doesn't look natural.

The Sony Xperia Z is prob the best of the bunch, but still id honestly rather have LCD, theres no way you'd be able to run iOS7 on an AMOLED screen with all the white, the battery would last an hour! and im just not one for white writing on a black screen...reminds me of Microsoft Dos.

With galaxy s4 there are different screen modes. The standard screen mode does saturate the colors. If you set it to movie it shows more natural color.
 
Battery life comparison from Anandtech:


http://www.anandtech.com/show/7335/the-iphone-5s-review/9

iPhone 5s has ~9hrs hrs on wifi browsing. Galaxy S4 has 6.5 hrs.

8.5 LTE browsing for iPhone 5s compared to 5.5 for Galaxy S4.

14 hrs talk time on Galaxy S4 compared to ~9 on iPhone 5s.



Makes me wonder how CR rates battery life because they give the S4 an excellent mark (their highest) for battery life while the iPhone only gets a good mark (aka their middle of the road mark.)

They must give much more weight to talk time as a battery life measure.

To summarize Anandtech's results: The bigger phone has the bigger screen. But screens are the biggest drain on battery life and that's why browsing battery life is greater on a smaller phone despite the bigger battery of the bigger phone.

But when just talk time battery life is considered, the bigger phone/battery kills the smaller phone/battery because the screen is turned off during phone calls.

This is ironic of course because the bigger screen would be considered better for browsing and the smaller phone would be considered better for holding up to your ear and talking.
 
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I really wouldn't like an iPhone screen any bigger. I think that if they go and make these huge screens, there just following the ways of the world of Android. That's really what they've been doing lately, is just following every one else. I mean iOS 7 looks like a Windows 7 phone (the messages look the exact same, you could barely tell the difference besides Windows phone uses sharp corners), Android phone, and an iPhone all in one.
 
What did Steve do to Consumer Reports?... Burn down their Christmas tree?
Talk about a vendetta.

Jesus thats creepy man. CR is reporting about their testing, they also speak very well of the 5S. The battery IS a weak point, in Apples obsession with THIN they have given up long battery life. Just think if the phone was the same size thickness as the 4, but had 'all day' battery life (11Hr). I have a hunch that once they can make a screen bigger but still claim the same criteria for 'retina' with 4.8" or something.
 
My guess is something in the 4.5" to 4.8" range. I really (really, really) hope that they'll also go IGZO when they go bigger which, given that anything above 4.3" also means that the case gets a bit bigger allowing a bigger battery, should mean a very worthwhile boost in battery life.

I agree. The biggest challenge for Apple is the currently iPhone is just so darned small. I'm one of the few who want a smaller iPod Touch-like iPhone but the battery life will be abysmal.

For someone like me whose on-screen time is almost entirely for ebook reading it could be a massive battery life boost since IGZO needs less frequent refresh on static pages and can turn off the drive current completely for some refresh cycles.

I doubt it. As far as I know IGZO doesn't offer much improvements for the phones.

From what I can see, the IGZO story has propagated throughout the online blogsphere because there are many writings and whitepapers explaining how wonderful IGZO is compared to the old conventional a-Si TFT. But there's one problem: modern smartphones do not use the old a-Si TFT technology.
 
Contract will be up for the iPhone 6. I'm expecting

  • Bigger screen (4.8 inches? sure!)
  • Much better battery life (so much more room)
  • Nifty iOS 8 features, since iOS 7 was more of a re-design, now they can actually add more things

Apple needs to at least go to 4.7" screen the 4.0 is no longer cutting it, and as for battery I think most new Androids are getting similar life as the 5 and 5S.

Apple is no longer in front of the pack by miles, they have to keep on their feet because although they innovate for the most, there are a lot of other Android based phones out there that are just as good.

I have been an iPhone user since the 3G and loved them, but after keeping my 5 for over a year I am beginning to wonder if they are still that much better, not really impressed with iOS7 but I use it and it is very flat and boring, but will be interesting over the next year where Apple and their competition will go...My feeling is 092014 will be the time where I either stay with iPhones or move on.
 
Apple needs to at least go to 4.7" screen the 4.0 is no longer cutting it, and as for battery I think most new Androids are getting similar life as the 5 and 5S.

Apple is no longer in front of the pack by miles, they have to keep on their feet because although they innovate for the most, there are a lot of other Android based phones out there that are just as good.

I have been an iPhone user since the 3G and loved them, but after keeping my 5 for over a year I am beginning to wonder if they are still that much better, not really impressed with iOS7 but I use it and it is very flat and boring, but will be interesting over the next year where Apple and their competition will go...My feeling is 092014 will be the time where I either stay with iPhones or move on.

You may think the grass is greener on the other side....
 
With galaxy s4 there are different screen modes. The standard screen mode does saturate the colors. If you set it to movie it shows more natural color.

Hmm, I just dont like the screen though, the more I look at my S3 I use for testing the more I dislike it...im so happy to get back to looking at an LCD.
 
My much loved iPhone 5 is very nice, even if Apple has been slacking off in some areas.

Much to my surprise my new Galaxy Note 3, is vastly better, and great fun to use.

Perhaps these latest top of the line, highly capable Android phones will be just the kick in the butt Apple needs to get back to doing their best work again.
 
You may think the grass is greener on the other side....

Nope not Greener on the other side just different, I do not like Android because it does not have a full service Syncing app like iCloud, you have to load several apps to sync everything to me that is fragmented, but I do not think Apple is way ahead of the pack anymore.

2014 will be interesting because if the next phone doesn't have a bigger screen I might move to an Android Device, but then again I am all Apple at home so the ease of iOS is great but as I get older it is getting more difficult to see everything on a little screen, to me 4.7 is a perfect size, but we will see
 
The battery life is terrible. I can agree with that. I had an S3 for a bit and the battery lasted a long long time.

Still though I don't mind charging as often as I do.

How would you compare the battery life of the 5S to that of the 4S? For my use, the 4S lasts a long long time.

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Most women - just like men - have two hands. Even the largest phones are small enough and holding them is never an issue for anybody. One handed usage is a different matter. It might be important for those who use phones while driving or riding a train/bus (and standing).

I use the 4S one-handed all the time.

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Apple should make an iteration of the iPhone 6 with a 6" screen and name it iPhone 6I, for idiot. That will take care of the people wanting to carry around a phablet. Marketing slogan: iPhone 6I "For the idiots.".

Every smart phone is a "phablet" now.

It would make sense for Apple to sell 2-3 sizes.

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There is a major flaw in your statement. For 20 years phone manufacturers made their devices smaller and smaller. That's correct. Then they stopped manufacturing phones and started manufacturing mobile computers that happen to also have phone capabilities. And in the last 20 years computer manufacturers actually were making their devices (displays) larger and larger. Saying that phablet is to small and large is like saying that 13" laptop is too small as a desktop replacement laptop and too large as a portable laptop. Each size excels at something.

Exactly. I would not want Apple to start selling so many models you can't figure out what they all are, like Samsung is right now. But, a few more sizes would make sense.
 
no match

I totally agree. While the iPhone 5s is a beautiful device, I was disappointed with battery life and the same 4 inch screen. While holding a Galaxy Note or HTC One or Droid Ultra, those screens let you see and do more. If Apple would make a phone with six inch screen, it would blow away all competition.
 
Do tell me how many "average" people care about or even know what 64bit architecture is.

It's not really a selling point. Sorry. Future-proofing yes. Some advantages currently depending on the software, sure. But not remotely thrilling to the masses.

I think the average person can understand the difference between a phone with a 2 year usable life and a phone with a 4 year usable life, just like they can understand that some cars last 15 years and 150,000 miles, and, some last 7 years and 70,000 miles.
 
I was talking about gamut, the next row in the link you provided.

Well, according to the experts iPhone 5 display is somewhat bluish compared to Samsung Galaxy S4 which is much closer to the norm. According to DisplayMate.com, white color temperatures (Degrees Kelvin) for SGS3, SGS4 and iPhone 5 are as follows:

SGS3
7,860 K - Somewhat Too Blue

SGS4
7,186 K Standard Mode
6,591 K Movie Mode - Movie Mode Excellent

iPhone 5
7,461 K - Somewhat Too Blue

Note: D6500 is the standard color of White for most Content and needed for accurate color reproduction.
 
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