New iPod Details

[notmenotyou]

Um, he meant an FM/AM Tuner, not transmitter. As weird as it seems, some of us like to listen to the radio, because it provides news, and songs we don't own/can't afford/can;t buy (because here is australia we don't have the iTMS. You bastards Apple. GIVE ME MY MUSIC STORE).

There are plenty of players better than the iPod that have Radios. I think the Nomad Zen Touch has a radio. It looks like an iPod, has twice the battery life (24 hours, and I belive Creative's claims, because they don't often lie), and because it's a Creative, has the best audio quality on the market. By the way, the iPod has some of the worst audio quality on the market.

However, the iPod's audio quality is ok for most (not me though), it's battery life is ok for most (not me though), and it's feature set is ok for most (not me though).

I'm gonna go buy an iRiver, everyone else just buy an iPod. Now.

it's pretty interesting that if you like the iRiver so much, why are you still here? i think you should go to iRiver Forums... or you just want to tell the world that you think you are better than rest of us, cos only you know iRiver is better(if this is even true!).

 

[LethalWolfe]

"If we use what we already to be more efficent then we could save money by not having to have new suppliers or change the already great economies of scale that we experience w/ our current parts. The money that we save could then go to ....i don't know.... a $100 price cut."

I wouldn't consider this a price cut really. It's still Apple's usual "get a new top-end product and push everything down one notch." Right now the 40gig seems like the "top end" but in reality it's the middle (and priced accordingly). When Apple gets enough 60gig drives a 60gig iPod will appear and will be $499. So the $499, $399, $299 price stucture is still being used, except the "#1 slot" is temporarily empty.


Lethal

 

[afields]

Pretty cool. Doesn't make me go "WOW" but I'll definitely be getting one. I was expecting some other feature though, radio, line in for recording, wifi. Any one of those features would've been cool. Ah well, at least there better battery life.

 

[sebisworld]

is there any visible difference between the 1G and 2G iPods? i don't think so but i'm not sure.

The 1G iPod still had the normal mechanical wheel.

 

[SilentPanda]

Hmmm... wonder what's going to happen to my order... I put an order for a 40 gig on the 15th and it said 3-5 day estimate but now it shows July 26th as the estimated ship date... they havent' "charged" me for it... but I am getting it laser engraved... so that could be why it's taking longer... although I'm hoping it's because I'm getting a newer iPod... I guess I'll find out here in the next few days via e-mail... hmmmm...

 

[notmenotyou]

The 2G iPods added the touch sensitive scroll wheel and I believe the 20 gig model.

i am a 2Gen 10Gig ower and i can tell you that my iPod also has the touch sensitive scroll wheel, not just the 20Gig.

 

[må¥å]

Hmmm... wonder what's going to happen to my order... I put an order for a 40 gig on the 15th and it said 3-5 day estimate but now it shows July 26th as the estimated ship date... they havent' "charged" me for it... but I am getting it laser engraved... so that could be why it's taking longer... although I'm hoping it's because I'm getting a newer iPod... I guess I'll find out here in the next few days via e-mail... hmmmm...

I don't think they will upgrade you model since you are getting it lazer engraved and its not a matter of taking the back off and putting it on a new gen since they size is smaller and thinner.

 

[barnett25]

Another immportant new feature is one-click shuffle. That has been long overdue and almost makes ditching my iPod worth it.

i wonder if going back to a moving wheel helped reduce battery drain?

At any rate, I miss the silky tactile feedback of the moving scrollwheel of my old 1st generation iPod. But I like the fact that my newer, 3rd-generation 30-gigger doesn't get lint inside it, and since I'm nowhere close to filling up the drive, I'll probably stick with it for quite a while, since it mostly gets used in the car where battery drain is not a concern.

Umm, I'm pretty sure that the wheel doesn't actually turn. It works just like the one in the 3rd Gen iPod, it just adds the action of four buttons under it.

 

[SeaFox]

Let's see, decent battery life and a DRM ladened encoding method with crappy encoding rates (128kbps max) or reasonable battery life, the worlds best online music store, and oh yeah, it's Apple.

How long a battery life do you want? I've found the 10 hrs I get out of my Gen 2 iPod to be plenty for a cross country flight

Uh, yeah. You should like not post about technology you know nothing about. You just embarrass yourself. Not only is 128 not the maximum bitrate for Minidisc, there is no 128 bitrate.

The bitrates are
ATRAC (original): 292kbs
ATRAC3: 132kbs (LP2), 66 kbs (LP4)
ATRAC3+: 256kbs (Hi-SP) 64kbs (Hi-LP), 48kbs

LP2 (132kbs) is used for Sony's connect music store.

As for battery life, I average 24 hrs with good sound quality and frequent track changes. But the original poster was using last years NetMD's for his comparison, which really shouldn't be used. Using figures for Hi-MD makes the battery life comparison much more even. Another 6 hrs or so of battery life and I may be looking at a new iPod.

 

[ping0000]

In stores?

when would these new ipods be in stores?

 

[FosterKanig]

Hmmm... wonder what's going to happen to my order... I put an order for a 40 gig on the 15th and it said 3-5 day estimate but now it shows July 26th as the estimated ship date... they havent' "charged" me for it... but I am getting it laser engraved... so that could be why it's taking longer... although I'm hoping it's because I'm getting a newer iPod... I guess I'll find out here in the next few days via e-mail... hmmmm...

I would call them IMMEDIATELY. Maybe they can cancel your order, and you can then re-place your order. Of course they may not admit to anything until tomorrow, but it can't hurt to try. 100 bucks is worth a phone call.

 

[må¥å]

What I find odd is that the mini now has 8h of battery life and the iPod 12h. I guess even thouge the touch click wheel draws less power the mini has a smaller batter makes it an easy choice get the click wheel larger size more battery life for 50 more dollars.

And for those expecting a price reduction I say Apple is selling these by the truck loads why would anyone sell it for less it would also clash with the mini price what do people expect 249 mini and a 275 20 gig iPod. Lets see you produce a product for that price.

Abote the Creative and other products sounds quality depends on the user if you feel that is that its a better package and deal go get one and stop complaining here. 😀

 

[CrackedButter]

Everyone says that these new iPods are cheaper. True, in a way, but the fact is, if you wanted to get a new iPod, it is still going to be at least $299. The pricing structure has not changed at all. But, with that out of the way, I wonder if the 4G iPods are shorter since the buttons above the wheel are gone. Also, there is going to have to be yet another category of cases for your iPod with the slightly new form factor.

It will be cheaper over here outside the US, the dollar has risen against the Sterling considerably, they have to drop the price for us. But you are half right.

 

[Savage Henry]

when would these new ipods be in stores?

The article did say 'next week'.

 

[mhouse]

Please Explain This...

I wouldn't consider this a price cut really. It's still Apple's usual "get a new top-end product and push everything down one notch." Right now the 40gig seems like the "top end" but in reality it's the middle (and priced accordingly). When Apple gets enough 60gig drives a 60gig iPod will appear and will be $499. So the $499, $399, $299 price stucture is still being used, except the "#1 slot" is temporarily empty.


Lethal

I've seen several posts like this and I am really confused.

When an item that was previously sold for *499* dollars now sells for *399* and, incidentally, has a few new features, how are any of you saying "it isn't really a price cut"? What on earth do you possibly mean by this?

499-100=399
399-100=299
399>299
499>399.

How is this *not* a price cut?

Are you trying to say that Apple has not lowered the minimum price for owning an iPod? If so, then *that* is true. But that is much, much different from saying there has been no price cut. The 20gb and 40gb models of iPod have clearly and irrefutably had their prices cut by 100 dollars.

And, for those of you hoping for a still cheaper iPod...just hang on for a few days and see what happens when HP officially introduces their "hPod." I'm betting its a rebranded 15gb for 199 or so.

 

[Jalexster]

it's pretty interesting that if you like the iRiver so much, why are you still here? i think you should go to iRiver Forums... or you just want to tell the world that you think you are better than rest of us, cos only you know iRiver is better(if this is even true!).

I'm here, because I want to support Apple, and the iPod (because it's earning money for Apple). I do like the iRivers, howevery I can't afford one, and I'm convinced that everyone else should buy an iPod. If this seems weird to you, then I'm sorry that you don't understand it. I do not mean this in a offensive way, however, I did take offense to your comment.

Get an iPod. Enough people are buying iRivers, so they won't be going under anytime soon.

 

[jimsowden]

to whoever said that the new ipods would need new docks because they are smaller...the mini's can use the same docks as the 3rd gen iPods so all the docks and dock-like accessories (like those speakers the ipod docks into) should work on these

No they can't. It charges, but I won't mount or play through the line out. The inMotion made different, and that does work fine with both.

 

[CubaTBird]

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this is a thread about ipod and yet at the bottom it says buy a nomad zen 😛

 

[andybouchard]

So my new 15GB iPod is due to arrive tomorrow, does anyone think that apple may surprise me with the brand new 20GB!? Or should I keep dreaming and just send my 15 back when I get it?

 

[bennetsaysargh]

i am guessing that it will have the same dock connecter, meaning it will still work with the inMotion speakers. i am hoping that my iTalk still woks though, the recording doesn't seem like something that they would cut.

 

[må¥å]

So my new 15GB iPod is due to arrive tomorrow, does anyone think that apple may surprise me with the brand new 20GB!? Or should I keep dreaming and just send my 15 back when I get it?

Send it back...the order was already processed so you are getting the 3rd gen, unless you like the grd gen then stick with the order. 🙂

 

[Jalexster]

Abote the Creative and other products sounds quality depends on the user if you feel that is that its a better package and deal go get one and stop complaining here. 😀

I'll keep complaining as long as I like! I still think that everyone should buy an iPod, but nothing can stop me going on and on and on about other brands! I'm trying to pass a subtle message here. "Buy an iPod, Don't buy an iRiver, because I'm buying one. You should buy an iPod." It's a hidden message! Don't you get it? If you don't get an iPod.

Also, about Battery Life. I remeber hearing that in order to reduce the size of the 3G iPod, they decreased the quality of the battery to one thats alot lower quality. Thats why the battery life isn't good.

Finally, about the 4G iPod having better battery life, Apple probably made the headphone amp/sound processing even lower quality, to save battery life. If this is the case, it's an incredible achivement for Apple, because it is a breakthrough to make an amp, that is that crap. I didn't even know it was possible to make something that crap. Maybe the haven't, maybe they have. We'll have to wait and see.

Ok, thats my rant finished.

 

[Freg3000]

I've seen several posts like this and I am really confused.

When an item that was previously sold for *499* dollars now sells for *399* and, incidentally, has a few new features, how are any of you saying "it isn't really a price cut"? What on earth do you possibly mean by this?

499-100=399
399-100=299
399>299
499>399.

How is this *not* a price cut?

Are you trying to say that Apple has not lowered the minimum price for owning an iPod? If so, then *that* is true. But that is much, much different from saying there has been no price cut. The 20gb and 40gb models of iPod have clearly and irrefutably had their prices cut by 100 dollars.

And, for those of you hoping for a still cheaper iPod...just hang on for a few days and see what happens when HP officially introduces their "hPod." I'm betting its a rebranded 15gb for 199 or so.

I think many of us are making the distinction between a price cut and lowering the prices. While I admit they probably can be used to mean the same thing, people were thinking that lowering prices would mean the numbers themselves would change, not just more space for the same prices.

It was just a different way of thinking I guess.

 

[SiliconAddict]

OK. So if this is true I'm somewhat disappointed by the lack of a color screen. Sorry but I think displaying cover art on the LCD display would have been cool as hell. That being said I can be content with better battery life and a larger hard drive. If they really do come out with the new iPod this week I'm going to be over at the Apple store in 20 minutes since its right up the road from my workplace. This is so freaking cool its not even funny. 😀

 

[nubero]

hey man, if apple releases new firmware tomorrow, im a happy man with my 3g 15 gb. plus the way i see it, my ipod is considered a novelty item considering its the last of the 3g. plus the 3g look more advanced? the new ones have a click wheel, thus MOVING PARTS, thus old tech... the 3g have no moving parts... 🙄

finally someone who takes notice... i hate the fact of having moving parts again; wonder how the color of that thing looks as well in real life.
three pictures are now online and the color of that wheel looks like s h i t on everyone... i hope that'll be better in reality like the MDD on the MDD G4...

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