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I hate when people complain about buying an iPod, then complain about the new one coming out. Is your current iPod broken? Does it totally suck and is nothing like it said it was going to be? Probably not.

Next time wait 5 years for the 10th generation iPods.

.narco
 
I want to see:

- a removable battery.
- no color screen.
- no movie support.
- non-tacky colors. ColowarePC does a nice paint job, but it looks tacky. As long as Apple stays away from that style.
- up to 80 GB.
- more scratch resistant.
- AirTunes support.

I'll still stick with my 3G 15 GB iPod though.
 
smurphur said:
To the people worried about waiting on the Cram and Jam special, i believe that there is already wording in the special that limits it to specific models of notebooks and ipods. So, if a new ipod were to be announced prior to the Cram and Jam special being complete, the new ipods would not be an option for it, just like the ipod minis are not in the rebate. I agree with a lot of people on here, if Apple wants to release a new ipod... they need to step it up a bit and provide more features (mainly battery life) instead of just some color casing and a bigger capacity. Does anyone know if Apple uses lithium-polymer batteries in the ipods or just lithium-ion? I was trying to figure out why things like the iRiver get a lot more battery life, and they have lithium-polymer batteries which supposedly have a much lower profile than the ion ones.

The big thing on the Cram and Jam is that they do have a statement about product availability. So when Apple runs out of a model that is it for that iPod. And only the current iPods are listed as being available for rebates. What is surprising is that Powerbooks do not have restrictions. So a new could come out before 9/25/04 and qualify for the joint rebate.
 
I want a new iPod!
And one of those nifty H/K "On Stage" Speaker docks that they intro'd at Macworld.

I think they should have metallic clearcoat automotive paint... i'll take mine in dark navy... or forest green.
 
feature

I think the new ipods will have a passive color screen, or OLED (to save batteries), and it will display album art as a screen saver. The picture files are already embedded in the iTMS downloaded songs...

Something like bluetooth could be interesting as well...
 
A thought...

iMac G3s were famed for their multi-colours. Apple have released the mini in multiple colours, the new iPods are now rumoured to be multi-coloured so why do you think the chances are that Apple are reintroducing the multi-coloured schemes into their new product ranges such as the next-gen iMac and possible the next major revision of iBook?
 
Badass!

This is sweet, I just sold my 8 month 40 GB iPod for close to what I paid last week (I threw in 8000 songs to sweeten the deal). That money + change should land me a shiny new 60 GB aluminum iPod. I got my wife the mini a few months ago and fell in love with the new interface versus the horizontal row of touch buttons
 
MP3 Player or...

It's been stated. The Newton is dead in all it's forms. It's also been stated "Home Directories on the iPod now!". Then there are the $199 for an faceplate switching, aluminum, mini interface, millions of colours video playing, 60 gig iPod (surely the $249 version for he big HD), alien home world taking over (not really), Hmmm what does an iPod do? Oh yes: Portable Music playing device with 11-20 hours of non stop unlimited never dying in any universe or alternate dimension where lithium ions don't wear down battery...

Anything else? How about a jog wheel true OS-X interface away with bluetooth headgear HUD (so you can actually run OS-X) and integrated WirelessFirewire for all your connection needs -including wireless power transfer for the HUDheadset and ear buds)? What does an iPod do again? Oh yea, play music!

Do you want an iPod or do you want a Newton Reborn extension of the OS in a portable device that syncs with any computer? And none of the above mentioned made up ideas save for maybe new iPod colours, aluminum and mini-style interface will ever fit into a $199 price tag.

Lastly home directories on the iPod. So you iSync your home folder to your iPod from whatever OS-X machine you use. Then you wonder over to some other OS-X machine. Is it running Panther? What if it's on 10.1? Will home syncing be included in a Panther update or not until Tiger? If you have to wait until Tiger isn't out what is the use of a home synced iPod in August or even shipped in September? What if it is ready and the machine you sit down at isn't set up to sync home folders? Is it iSync or is their protocol for login like LDAP configurations? The standard would have to be plug and play and perhaps you would have to be a user on a list for the target machine. Or anyone with a Super Newton 500 hours of battery life iPod (yes, made up) could walk up to any OS-X station, log in, run terminal take over the machine as root and copy all it's data to it's 500GB HD (kidding again), then log off (absolutely real). Considering that... Opening the floodgates of plug and play iPod home directories would be a security nightmare... Or should iPods have several Terabyte HDs for wholesale sponging of any OS-X machine they encounter?

What does an iPod do...? Never mind.
 
jholzner said:
What boat will they miss? The one where those type of devices are a misserable failure? No one wants to watch video on a tiny screen...and besides...what video would you watch? Tiny quicktime movies? A movie ripped from dvd would fill the ipod up in no time.

No one wants to watch video on a tiny screen. No one. You're pretty confident in saying that. So not one single portable video player has ever been sold then, because nobody wants one, right?

My friend has an Archos, that has a screen at least 1/3 smaller than the iPod's screen, and you could still enjoy watching video on the thing. Not the best video viewing device in the entire world, but if I'm on a trane, or a plane, or riding in a car, and I want to watch something, it's much better than nothing. The iPod's screen size is big enough that you could have a decent time watching video on it.

I think battery life certainly needs fixing. When I was still living in Japan, I could easily have gone through 7-8 hours of music while riding the trains and walking around doing whatnot.

If it can be implemented without having a negative effect on performance in any other way, so the "I don't want that feature!" people don't sit around bitching, add in the ability to play video through the dock off of the iPod's hard drive. Only problem is, it would then need a remote to really be useful.

The wild idea I'd love to see is to build in wi-fi ability, and then voila- you have your remote control for iTunes when playing music via AirPort Extreme. Browse your entire music iTunes music library from your iPod, pause, next track, previous track, track scrub, volume control, it's all there. You'd be using short bursts of wi-fi, and wouldn't be touching the hard drive at all, so it wouldn't be a huge battery hog.

Is the iPod first and foremost a music playing device? Of course. But some of you are just ridiculous in your "that's all it should do for God's sake!!" whining. If Apple can integrate new features into the iPod without taking anything away from what it already is, why not add new stuff? If you want to be such purists, and proclaim that the iPod should only be a music player, guess what? Toss out the ability to use it as an external hard drive. Toss out the contacts. Toss out the games. Toss out the ability to read text files. Toss out the alarm clock. Toss out the calendar. After all, none of those things have anything to do with playing your MP3s!

Steve Jobs himself has said that the iPod is basically Apple's new handheld computer. If new features come, and the ruin the iPod's ability to play music, THEN start bitching. Otherwise, quiet down, and let those of us who want our iPods to do more ask for more.
 
Garry said:
A thought...

iMac G3s were famed for their multi-colours. Apple have released the mini in multiple colours, the new iPods are now rumoured to be multi-coloured so why do you think the chances are that Apple are reintroducing the multi-coloured schemes into their new product ranges such as the next-gen iMac and possible the next major revision of iBook?
My thoughts are because white has become to plain jane, but should keep the white also for those who prefer it. I also think they will bring back color for the new imac
 
Garry said:
A thought...

iMac G3s were famed for their multi-colours. Apple have released the mini in multiple colours, the new iPods are now rumoured to be multi-coloured so why do you think the chances are that Apple are reintroducing the multi-coloured schemes into their new product ranges such as the next-gen iMac and possible the next major revision of iBook?
Holy crap that would be lame. I'm all for NO color top-end ipods at all. Unfinished aluminum only maybe. iMacs were originally famed for their multi colors but once people realized how bad they looked, the colors were first cut back to three more tasteful shades then discontinued altogether in favor of white (consumer) and metal (pro).
The ipod mini only differs from the current color scheme because being a 'mini' anything immediately endears you to the same sort of people who prefer cuteness to real design.
 
AnewMac said:
Will having a color screen have put a drain on the battery?

It depends on the type of color screen. I hear there are some new color technologies that draw less power, but overall color is not going to help the battery life.
 
i havent heard people mention much wi-fi capabilities!!! i want 802.11g interface with the new airport express. then youcould just play from your iPod to your stereo system w/o wires!!! would make for the coolest on-the-go playlist at a party. and it would have a much better range than small FM modulators. i still have a 1st gen 10gb ipod and it works great! and it has more than 8 hours of battery life!!!! (it used to have 10, but i think it only goes about 9 these days) so until a new iPod can outdo the battery life of my 1st gen iPod AND can hook up to an airport express, i think ill stick with my 1st gen iPod. but if the new iPods are 802 compatible then you better watch out cause ill be fighting for the first one availible!!!
 
narco said:
I hate when people complain about buying an iPod, then complain about the new one coming out. Is your current iPod broken? Does it totally suck and is nothing like it said it was going to be? Probably not.

Next time wait 5 years for the 10th generation iPods.

.narco

So... Gen1 and Gen2 iPods, they boot OS-X and Linix. I love this feature, mainly for booting a sad machine and diagnosing it's troubles. As I don't have a Gen3 iPod... Is it a fully functional bootable FireWire HD? Doesn't have an actual FireWire port on it. Anyone know? If it can't. Good thing I stuck with my Gen2, isn't it? It's engraved, I love it, I can use any FireWire cable I find laying around at home work or a friend's house. But I don't have 40 GB for my music! I haven't even filled the current 20 GB of the drive I have now, not to mention all my diagnostic tools and a copy of 10.3.4. So, do I cry that I don't have the bleeding edge iPod with the profane 40GB which may not boot a machine or the proverbial Gen4 coming out? Nope. Good point above Narco.

Classic VW bug with the split back oval... Or New Beetle from 1998? It's new isn't it? Hey why not the upcoming 2005 New Beetle? Just doesn't have the charm of the split back oval classic bug... Maybe iPods are like that.
 
machinehien said:
This is sweet, I just sold my 8 month 40 GB iPod for close to what I paid last week (I threw in 8000 songs to sweeten the deal). That money + change should land me a shiny new 60 GB aluminum iPod. I got my wife the mini a few months ago and fell in love with the new interface versus the horizontal row of touch buttons
Duff-Man says... I am sure the copyright holders, record companies and artists for those 8000 songs would not think your deal was very sweet....oh yeah!
 
machinehien said:
This is sweet, I just sold my 8 month 40 GB iPod for close to what I paid last week (I threw in 8000 songs to sweeten the deal). That money + change should land me a shiny new 60 GB aluminum iPod. I got my wife the mini a few months ago and fell in love with the new interface versus the horizontal row of touch buttons
I agree with da Duff-Man.

Also, as someone who makes some money from copyrighted items, I wouldn't mind seeing the RIAA coming down on you full bore.

NOTE: I do disagree with the RIAA lawsuits and the way they're targeting the people downloading. They should be going after the "uploaders". You count as an uploader.
 
While it's true that the white iPod has become such an icon that introducing colors could dilute the brand, consider the success of the mini. It seems people know enough about what an iPod is that this could be just the time to get away from plain vanilla white. Or the "more colors" rumor could really just be about the iPod minis only.

Whatever the colors turn out to be, the introduction of the Click Wheel to the high-capacity iPods will be great. I never did like the row of buttons--not enough tactile feedback to operate the thing without looking, or while leaving it in your pocket (nice when you travel through neighborhoods where you definitely DON'T want people knowing you've got an iPod).

I'd like to see more battery life, too. My old 2nd gen 10 GB iPod still gets a good consistent 10-ish hours, putting the mini's battery life to shame. And almost every other device on the market boasts more battery life than the iPod. Most of them are bricks, but Sony's new Walkman isn't, so it's looking like it's possible to add battery life to a small form factor now. That alone would be worth an upgrade!

I think the portable video and color screen hype are just that--hype. Like Tablet PCs. It's a neat idea with lots of gagdet-y cool-factor, and some people will want it, but it's not going to really ever take off. Not like the basic music player did...there just aren't enough places to utilize portable video, while music is ubiquitous.

I'm not one for turning the iPod into a convergence device or PDA substitute, but I'll admit I wouldn't mind Home on iPod. Probably because I haven't plunked down the dough for a backup drive yet, and would find it just too convenient to get my backup drive and music player in one package. :eek:

And if I'm wrong about the colors being mini-only.....save me a purple 40 GB! :D
 
My $0.02

NO COLORS!!! That's what has made the iPod stand out so much! WHITE! the black sillouettes with the white iPod are great ads.

At least don't get rid of the white, though personally I'd like a aluminum one. That way if I decide to sell my kidney here shortly for a aluminimum G5, Monitor, the iPod the next month would be great.
 
Bakafish said:
1) The announcment is supposed to be next week
2) The controls are changed to be like the iPod Mini
3) There will be only two sizes (I assume 60 / 20.)

Highly doubt this one, 20 is nowhere near big enough for some people and 60 is too much for other, the way they have it now is perfect with 3 sizes it adds a nice contract to the overall lineup
 
Duff-Man said:
I am sure the copyright holders, record companies and artists for those 8000 songs would not think your deal was very sweet
Not to mention that a collection of 8000 songs is worth a lot more than the iPod they live on.
 
i'm already salivating

if i could get a 60GB orange iPod w/ better battery life and (maybe) a color screen...i would be as giddy as a little girl.
 
agentmouthwash said:
(3) have a "rock block" option where you can hear 2 songs in a row from the same artist when listening to your playlist in random play shuffle.

Haha my shuffle seems to do that anyway...drives me nuts, but I guess random is random.
-jim
 
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