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It’s certainly possible. But it would be a surprise considering it would set two new major precedents—one being support for two generations of chips being dropped at once, and two being a device losing support 3-4 months after being sold in stores (previous precedent is over a year).
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Ah I didn’t know my history that far back. Looking at that chip, the pattern of support droppage does become a little muddled when it comes to chip generations with differing ram. For example, the 4th gen iPod touch had the same chip and ram as the iPad 1 but was not dropped until a year later with iOS 7. And later, all A5 devices were dropped at once, despite differing ram. So it’s very possible, although I don’t know if I’d say likely, that the 1gb ram A8’s will be dropped. If they do get dropped, it will make it a bit harder to predict support droppage from here on out since all newer chips have differing ram on different devices.
The iPod Touch 4 was being sold up until May of 2013 and was unsupported starting in September, but it was not the flagship.
 
And yet they charge latest and greatest prices for it. They must think very little of their customer base. With the prices they are charging we expect innovation. Not an almost three year old CPU put into a 7 year old design.

iPod has never been the forefront of technology. I consider a $1500 Xs MAX the definition of "latest and greatest prices." Fact is, processors today are lasting longer than ever. I know people still using a Mini 2 today.

Would I recommend an iPod to anyone? No, probably not.
 
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iPod has never been the forefront of technology. I consider a $1500 Xs MAX the definition of "latest and greatest prices." Fact is, processors today are lasting longer than ever. I know people still using a Mini 2 today.

Would I recommend an iPod to anyone? No, probably not.

I still use my Mini 2 usually when reading/web browsing at night before bed, not the fastest, but gets the job done.

As far as the iPod goes, I think it's a great device for kids or those that don't need a phone but like the convenience of a media player/camera with internet connectivity at a semi-reasonable price point. I like it better than having my Max in my pocket for music at the gym.
 
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I still use my Mini 2 usually when reading/web browsing at night before bed, not the fastest, but gets the job done.

As far as the iPod goes, I think it's a great device for kids or those that don't need a phone but like the convenience of a media player/camera with internet connectivity at a semi-reasonable price point. I like it better than having my Max in my pocket for music at the gym.

I haven't used my Mini 2 for a while. I just use the Mini 5. I use it instead of my phone a lot at home and work.

I have the option of using my watch for music but I usually just bring my 7+. I bought a bunch of running shorts with pockets that could accommodate a big phone. These things are very hard to find.
 
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I haven't used my Mini 2 for a while. I just use the Mini 5. I use it instead of my phone a lot at home and work.

I have the option of using my watch for music but I usually just bring my 7+. I bought a bunch of running shorts with pockets that could accommodate a big phone. These things are very hard to find.

My Mini 2 is my son's old iPad, I'll most likely get the Mini 5, but for now the 2 gets the job done for what I use it for. Mostly when I'm in bed and want something bigger than my Max and I'm to lazy to get my laptop.

I couldn't use my watch in the gym, it'd never last, and I can't stand a heavy phone flopping around in gym shorts pockets. Got refurb iPod 6 from Apple that's my go to for the gym and such.
 
What were you guys expecting? It's a device that parents buy their kids so they won't have to worry about giving them a phone. It's not getting Touch ID, Face ID, or some amazing Camera. IT'S A TOY!!!!!!!

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Be glad they're still selling it for those who just want a simple music player.

I agree with you for the most part but I feel that you're selling the Touch a but short. The way I see it, there are a number of reasons to buy one.

1. As you said, for kids/teens whose parents are no yet ready to buy them smartphones. An iPod Touch can perform almost all of the same functions of an iPhone at a much lower price and without monthly service charges.

2. An iOS device for people with Android phones. In addition to my iPhone, I used to own a Nexus 7 tablet. I've since moved on to an iPad and I therefore have no Android device. If there was a $200 Android device with decent specs and supporting the latest OS version, I would probably buy it just to have a foot in the Android world.

3. Dedicated media play: Now that phones are used for just about everything, many people can barely get through the day on a charge. Plus some people stream music or podcasts for hours a day, or want a device to keep docked in the car or home stereo system.

In any case, I agree with you in that I don't know why anyone was expecting a major hardware update. There's no reason why a device intended for these purposes needs a bezel-less display, or FaceID, or a True Tone display, etc., but lots of reasons to keep the price as low as possible. It really wouldn't make sense if they stuck so much new tech in an iPod that it cost $400!
 
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I wouldn’t have expected a new design but I would have expected the A11 and a slight change to the colour options. It does make me think that the 6th Gen iPad now won’t see an update for some time, as it shares the chip and both cameras (to my knowledge) with the new iPod.
 
This is just sad, using a few generations old A-chip in what is supposed to be a new device.

This reminds me of the ATV4 when it launched.

The rumors leading up prior to the ATV4's announcement made it seem like the new ATV was going to be a very powerful, console killing, multi-device replacing, super box.

But, we end up getting a few generations old and underpowered A8, an OS that had a lot of restrictions like the very small size of apps and the Siri Remote requirement for all apps, and that that depressing ATV event where Crossy Roads was used to highlight the new ATV's graphic capabilities.

The ATV4 and tvOS j


Not true. Apple TV was released in 2015 and launched with revised a8 version with 2gb of ram, introduced the same year with the iPad mini. At that point the a8 was one generation old.

iPod touch is what it is. Buy it or not. It’s the cheapest iOS device, probably on its last update ever.
 
I like the small form factor in in listening to iPod casts, internet radio, etc. while turning in for the night. Some years ago I bought a refurbished Generation 5 iPod from the Apple On-line Store which has served me very well,so, I placed an order last night for the Generation 7 32GB which should also serve me well.

As a US Navy Vet I was able to access the Apple Military and Veteran website which gave me a generous discount.
 
I like the small form factor in in listening to iPod casts, internet radio, etc. while turning in for the night. Some years ago I bought a refurbished Generation 5 iPod from the Apple On-line Store which has served me very well,so, I placed an order last night for the Generation 7 32GB which should also serve me well.

As a US Navy Vet I was able to access the Apple Military and Veteran website which gave me a generous discount.

I think it's a useful device in some cases.

The old iPhone 5 and SE models may offer better functionality at a very good price on the used market.
 
Not true. Apple TV was released in 2015 and launched with revised a8 version with 2gb of ram, introduced the same year with the iPad mini. At that point the a8 was one generation old.

I am counting the A8X, A9, and A9X which were all available at the time of the ATV4 launch.

The A8 launched with the same 2-core A8 that that the iPhone 6 had in 2014, except it had double the RAM, and a tiny bit higher clock speed, but otherwise had the same performance. They had the same 2-core and same GPU.

The ATV4 could have launched with the 3-core A8X, which launched a year prior in the iPad Air 2. It had a much better GPU, and could of gotten the same 2GB of RAM that the iPad Air 2 had.

The ATV4 could have launched with the A9, which was announced with the ATV4 in Sept 2015 on the iPhone 6s. It was faster, had a better GPU, and had faster LPDDR4 RAM.

The ATV4 could have launched with the A9x, which was announced with the ATV4 in Sept 2015 on the iPad Pro. It was much faster, had a lot better GPU, and had faster LPDDR4 RAM.

That is why I think it was underpowered at launch. It could of had the A8X, A9, or A9X, but it was given the inferior A8.

I think Apple corrected their mistake with the ATV4K, which launched with a current A10X, which had huge improvements over its predecessor, the A9X, especially for GPU performance.
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I know people still using a Mini 2 today.
I still used the iPad mini 2, but I am running iOS 10 and am staying there.

It was great running iOS 8, but the iOS 9 update made it almost unusable. iOS 10 fixed a lot of the problems that iOS 9 brought, but it is still pretty bad compared to iOS 8, and the battery life is horrible.
 
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Well not surprisingly Apple did the absolute minimum it could with the new iPod Touch. The only change is an A10 vs the A8 (and presumably 2GB of RAM) and an obscenely priced 256gb option. That's it folks - no bigger screen, no bigger battery, no biometric security, same bluetooth, no better camera. Heck even the upgrade is using a chip that is 2 years old (soon to be 3 years old). The only reason they added 256gb option is because it's such a high margin item they figure they can wring every extra penny out of a 7 year old design.

If what you want is a relatively light compact audio first device that can run iOS apps you are going to get more bang for your buck with an iPhone SE or an iPhone 7. Besides the SE having an A9 instead of an A10 - both of these devices are equal or superior in every other way. The only advantage the Touch has is its 88 gram weight which you pay dearly for in battery life.

Just kill the device Apple - this offering is embarrassing.

The iPod Touch is a break from the cloud and becomes a private lock box. You keep the music photos and videos that are priceless. The reviewer fails to mention HDMI which allows big screen pleasure for games music movies and Netflix.

The ad campaign for the iPod is terrible! Imagine and ad that shows a man in the 2080's very old and tired and he plugs an ancient iPod Touch into a adapter and it lights up and 2024 comes alive and there's video of Rebecca?

Use your imagination. Apple is so flatfooted at times. There's a billion Worker Bee's all over the world who would buy the iPod Touch as a "Computer in your pocket"

Most people will never buy a iPhone its a rich peoples toy. Steve Jobs invented the iPod Touch for the rest of us.
 
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I can’t believe they are using the slogan ‘Fun at Full Speed.’ On an A10 device when the current chips are A12 and A12X
 
I can’t believe they are using the slogan ‘Fun at Full Speed.’ On an A10 device when the current chips are A12 and A12X

My iPhone 7+ has an A10 is excellent. My Mini 5 blows it away of course. I’m keeping my 7+ for at least another two years and I think that performance will be fine. The iPod touch is a less demanding device so the A10 may be okay for three years.
 
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My iPhone 7+ has an A10 is excellent. My Mini 5 blows it away of course. I’m keeping my 7+ for at least another two years and I think that performance will be fine. The iPod touch is a less demanding device so the A10 may be okay for three years.

I’m sure it’ll be fine also, I just feel that marketing it in that way is misleading.
 
The iPod Touch 4 was being sold up until May of 2013 and was unsupported starting in September, but it was not the flagship.
Yeah there may have been a couple exceptions for older generation devices being sold alongside current generation, but I was really talking about when current devices were replaced by next generation.
 
Currently A7 devices are supported, and the Touch 6 is A8. Apple has never dropped support for two generations of chips at once, so it would be a new precedent.
The precedent has been set.

Although technically the precedent was already set when the 4th gen iPod Touch (with an A4 chip) and the iPhone 3GS (with a pre A4 chip that we'll call the A3 for simplicity sake) were both dropped when iOS 7 came out. Both had 256 MB of RAM, while the iPhone 4 had 512 MB of RAM and did get iOS 7. This is a first for them dropping drop 2 generations of iPhones at once.
 
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The precedent has been set.

Although technically the precedent was already set when the 4th gen iPod Touch (with an A4 chip) and the iPhone 3GS (with a pre A4 chip that we'll call the A3 for simplicity sake) were both dropped when iOS 7 came out. Both had 256 MB of RAM, while the iPhone 4 had 512 MB of RAM and did get iOS 7. This is a first for them dropping drop 2 generations of iPhones at once.

Yep, I was shocked that iOS 13 would not support the Touch 6 since the Touch 6 was sold as the latest model as of a couple weeks ago. I can see a lot of unhappy recent Touch 6 buyers.

I think that the reason it happened is because Apple dropped the ball.

Either Apple was planning on canceling the Touch line this September and at the last moment decided to quickly release the Touch 7.

or

Apple was planning on having the Touch 6 run iOS 13 but discovered that iOS 13 would require 2 MB RAM.

Note: Even if the Touch 6 ran iOS 13, I think it would have run it badly.
 
Yep, I was shocked that iOS 13 would not support the Touch 6 since the Touch 6 was sold as the latest model as of a couple weeks ago. I can see a lot of unhappy recent Touch 6 buyers.

I think that the reason it happened is because Apple dropped the ball.

Either Apple was planning on canceling the Touch line this September and at the last moment decided to quickly release the Touch 7.

or

Apple was planning on having the Touch 6 run iOS 13 but discovered that iOS 13 would require 2 MB RAM.

Note: Even if the Touch 6 ran iOS 13, I think it would have run it badly.


I was wondering if Apple would take back and exchange out a Touch 6 for a 7 for those who just purchased the 6.
 
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