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Better yet is to be able to remove those apps entirely. This is really important for people with 16 gb devices, where every app takes up precious space.
This and only this.

When the stock device comes with 16gb, requiring a useless Tips and Stock app, newstand, etc to be on the device is ludicrous.
 
It's ridiculous though how long apple has been dragging their feet in hiding stock apps. I've been able to hide apps on my Apple TV for years now. How is that it is 2016 and we still have iPhones with cluttered home screens and 16GB of memory?
 
I have no problem with these apps. Easy to hide in a folder called "not used" all done. By chance if I change my mind, easy to find. Everyone has different ideas and nice to see Apple making every effort to satisfy their customers.

You must be new to the iPhone. If I may: you're not cynical enough. A folder for discarded stock apps should be labeled Crapple or CrApple or (cr)Apple or some other designation that immediately and hyperbolically demonstrates a virulent disdain for these apps.
 
The problem I see, is that an uneducated user will unintentionally "hide" a stock app. Then, when they want it, they don't know how to get it back. This can:
- make them blame apple
- go to their cell carrier store and buy a new phone (and they loose everything because no one tells them about iCloud backup)
- go to the Apple Store and get it fixed (unlikely)
Ha! I'm filing your quote in the "OMG! Would someone think of the children?!?!" folder. Totally unrealistic scenario.

Pretty sure Apple would make the process very intentional (with all the proper notifications) and easily reversible.

On topic:
Imo, this is a step in the right direction. Like some have said, I'd prefer the ability to select default apps. App placement would be second only to selecting default apps. An app drawer would be perfection but completely unrealistic. But one can hope.
 
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I have no problem with these apps. Easy to hide in a folder called "not used" all done. By chance if I change my mind, easy to find. Everyone has different ideas and nice to see Apple making every effort to satisfy their customers.

Agree. I much prefer this approach and put that folder on the last page. They're all in one place and easily viewable should I later want to review (and change) my app hiding decisions. Much better than going into Settings and futzing around and then going back to drag a now revealed app to where I want it located.
 
Ha! I'm filing your quote in the "OMG! Would someone think of the children?!?!" folder. Totally unrealistic scenario.

Pretty sure Apple would make the process very intentional (with all the proper notifications) and easily reversible.

On topic:
Imo, this is a step in the right direction. Like some have said, I'd prefer the ability to select default apps. App placement would be second only to selecting default apps. An app drawer would be perfection but completely unrealistic. But one can hope.

Thank you for addressing that before I did.... "but it's for the children...." Give me a break.

On a completely unrelated note...I have a '69 Coupe ;)
 
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Are you suggesting that Apple will be doing so bad of a job at designing, developing and testing this "complex" feature that we should expect unintended consequences?

What I'm saying is that those who have been whining for years about this fairly inconsequential request don't fully appreciate that it's not as simple as just deleting some icons, and if they got it as quickly as they insist they'd likely complain about getting what they want.
 
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i'd like to see a smaller ios install only with the basic apps. then at first logon it would suggests me
to download extra stuff, only if i want it!
it will make updates to stock apps not linked to the major ios updates, as well as making os updates smaller/faster.

i dont benefit from hiding something i already never see, second page of an untitled folder, i never venture that far, all apps i ever use are within 2 taps reach, i don't even use multiple home screen pages!
 
This is nice, but ultimately may not be the best solution. Hiding is good, but that does not remove. If you are selling 16gig phones, you should be able to remove and free up space for other stuff.
 
You must be new to the iPhone. If I may: you're not cynical enough. A folder for discarded stock apps should be labeled Crapple or CrApple or (cr)Apple or some other designation that immediately and hyperbolically demonstrates a virulent disdain for these apps.

No. It's just that I've been out of high school for many years.
 
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What I'm saying is that those who have been whining for years about this fairly inconsequential request don't fully appreciate that it's not as simple as just deleting some icons, and if they got it as quickly as they insist they'd likely complain about getting what they want.

You have a point as a lot of these "stock" apps are deeply hooked in/rooted to stock iOS and thus like OS X when you remove apps, be ready for problems when you go to update as IIRC OS X checks to make sure everything is there before updating to a new OS Software. Plus all of these stock apps are what are required to be used such as safari b/c Apple won't let you "default" certain apps, thus if you were to remove Safari w/out Apple putting in a provision to select a default browser, it might make the OS freak out.

W/ all that said, I say lets get it on and start letting us remove some of these stock apps. Pop up a warning if you have to, Apple, but for the love of all things Apple, let us have some customization. For a company that prides itself in elegant design, there is nothing elegant about 15 or 16 apps on a home screen and maybe having one spot open which kicks in my balance and symmetry OCD. Furthermore I hate stuffing everything in to folders.
 
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Finally. Can't wait to remove useless apps like Game Center, Tips, Compass, Messages, Safari, News, Health, Calendar, Photos, Camera, FaceTime, Contacts, Settings, App Store, iTunes Store, Music, Mail, Stocks, Reminders, Notes, Videos, Maps, Wallet, Watch, Activity, iBooks, Podcasts, Find My Friends, Find My iPhone, Calculator, Voice Memos, and Phone.
So what apps do you use? You might as well and go and buy a brick
 
I expect it'll be a hide, not a remove. And I expect News won't be hideable, iBooks neither. So many of you'll still have the folder with unwanted apps, so nothing gained really.

"I imagine this won't be good, so it won't be good after all." Fantastic.
 
Stocks should be #1 on the list. I thought the Compass is not bad, until I opened it the other day and I cannot enter a coordinates. So it's useless too.
 
The issue with that is that stock apps are stored on a non-editable partition on your phone's storage. The only way to make changes is through a software update.
That seems like a really odd choice on Apple's part. Why sequester only certain apps? Hopefully, just such a software update will be forthcoming.
 
How exactly does Tips or Stocks provide core functionality to iOS?

It's easy to imagine scenarios where deleting apps won't be a problem. Apple doesn't have the luxury of only thinking about those scenarios.
 
We can hide them in folders, I would prefer to uninstall some of them: Stocks, Podcasts and Tips for example.
Meh. You still wouldn't have to put them somewhere like you do now. If I could simply "turn them off" in settings, that would be practically the same thing. The original problem was that they're still integrated in the core services/processes in the system, and it's not like any of them take up a whole a lot of space.
 
In order for them to enable the ability to hide built-in apps, there would need to be a system in place which allows a 3rd party app to take its place as the default app. So it's not just hiding the apps. They need to allow developers to have their apps be default apps as well. This would then require the 3rd party app to tie in to certain system functions via some new API. And if it fulfills all the API requirements, it's allowed to be a replacement default app. Then the stock app can be hidden.

I think they're definitely working in this, but it's not easy. Especially making sure it's secure and stable, and fully replicates the 1st party app functions.

Some apps could be hidden without needing to be replaced, perhaps. But I think the majority would need replacements. Such as Safari, or Mail.
 
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