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A far more accurate comparison would be one made between a 2006 Corolla and a 2007 one. In fact, once you make such a comparison, it becomes even easier to see how useless it is to compulsively upgrade for the sake of having the "newest" technology. There's virtually nothing the '07 model does that the '06 one can't. In the eleven months you spent waiting for the '07 model, you could have put hundreds of thousands of miles into the '06 model.

1) I'd say my analogy is a bit more accurate. Computer tech improves at a much faster rate then auto tech
2) What if Toyota's last Corolla release was years old while other manufactures have continually improved their models? It's not a matter of "waiting for the '07", but "hey, it's almost 2008...um, what happened to the 2007? Oh, they're still selling the 2006."

The thing is we love OSX. That keeps us from jumping ship, but when you look at other OEM options and realize that your getting over a year old tech (in some cases with peripherals 3 year old) for the same price. Well, it smarts. Smarts badly.

I mean my Powermac does everything I need. But not as efficient/quickly as would be ideal.
 
And here we have another member that misses the point. Not to offend you, but you aren't trying to see the point. We aren't waiting for new technology so that we can say that we have the fastest and baddest Mac ever, just that we have $4000 to spend and we want every penny of it to count. Our current machines, which in my case is older than any Mac Pro on the market is serving me just fine, but when I upgrade it I want my money to go where it can get the most, since I won't be able to just drop $5000+ anytime I choose.

No one waiting for a Mac Pro is trying to be king of the mountain, there are better machines out there currently for that.

Nope, it's just how I see it. I'd rather spending my time using my gear than waiting for it to be updated.

And that's okay, but you can't dispute the fact that there are some poeple that don't, and some that have an entirely different perspective.

It's more than a year old. Rapidly approaching a year and a half old, and the graphics options are 2-3 years old, depending on the card. It's sad they still charge the same prices they did in 2006 when it came out. Even sadder is that they expect people to pay $400.00 for an x1900xt which is worth less than half that. The saddest part of all is the $323.00 price for a 500 gig hard drive.

Get with the times, Apple. :rolleyes:

And this statment is proving what all Mac Pro waiters are saying. If I bought it a year ago then I wouldn't be waiting for anything.

A far more accurate comparison would be one made between a 2006 Corolla and a 2007 one. In fact, once you make such a comparison, it becomes even easier to see how useless it is to compulsively upgrade for the sake of having the "newest" technology. There's virtually nothing the '07 model does that the '06 one can't. In the eleven months you spent waiting for the '07 model, you could have put hundreds of thousands of miles into the '06 model.

Close but not that close. A car lasts 20 years at best, a computer lasts 3-4 at best. You can make both last longer with money of course. The analogy to the 1994 car was more accurate, or we can replace cars with food. Would you pay me top dollar for the worlds tastiest juciest steak if it were a week old? I hope not. Or how about a pure breed racing horse? Would you pay me $10,000 for a horse that was halfway through his life, and wasn't as fast as other horses that were in his price range?

NO one is upgrading for the sake of current tech, we are waiting and upgrading after our G5 Towers have made it to the 3-4 year old mark. And the current offerings aren't worth the cash.

I have a feeling that you still won't understand though. :rolleyes:
 
Excellent thesis. We're going to have to disagree, I guess. I stand by my statements, and you're welcome to stand by yours. And maybe someday you'll find a new icon to argue by :^)

I think the argument was in his "thesis," not with the :rolleyes:, that was just added because he's right.
 
If you can't really address my argument, I guess it's safer to attack my registration date. Oh, and to add the little rolling-eye icons. Those really bring the strawman to life.

I don't need to address your argument. I think you need to find something better to do than think up ways to boost your post count with clever (to you) quips.

32 posts per day average? Someone needs to go outside......
 
I went to a very expensive college (not on my own dime). Many of the students there were very, very well off.

It was surreal. They had no concept of monetary value or of degree of financial access. I had never come face to face with someone who genuinely had no concept of not having any/enough money. This school was full of them.

Some favorite quotes:
"I just paid rent, I'm completely broke. Can't go out."
--"Just go to the ATM."
"No, no, I don't have any at all."
--"Huh? Just put your card in and get some more."

I have a feeling our dissenter here must be one of these. Money has little actual value. So overpaying for something doesn't bother him. For him, the value of having it will always outweigh the cost. Whereas those who have budgets to follow will weigh the value of having against that of overpaying (since that's money that could be spent elsewhere that otherwise would not be available).
 
This isn't the PC world where updated hardware comes a plenty and its easy to upgrade to whatever the flavor of the month item is for relative cheapness (at least when compared to the ridiculous prices from apple).

When you piss away 4-5k on a machine that is already painfully outdated it sorta burns a bit on the backside. People have money to spend and want to spend it, just not on old crap that is about to be replaced. Updates come yearly, not every other month like on the PC side so its worth waiting.
 
NO one is upgrading for the sake of current tech, we are waiting and upgrading after our G5 Towers have made it to the 3-4 year old mark. And the current offerings aren't worth the cash.

My desktop is 6.5 years old, a G4 "digital audio" bought 2 weeks before the upgrade to the QuickSilver model. I started saving $50 a week in June '06 with the intent of buying a new Mac Pro "when they were going to be released at WWDC in 2007."

So come August 2007, I had $3k saved up for a new Mac Pro. Now why would I waste hard-saved cash on a desktop that is out-dated, over-priced, and sorely due for an upgrade? It just doesn't make sense. The G4 has gotten to the point where it's held together by packing tape and I have to quit most applications to watch a movie.

True, I could buy a current Mac Pro and be happy, but I'd feel like a moron for doing so and then having it updated just a month later with 10-20% faster architecture, 2x as much base RAM, and better and cheaper graphics cards. I think I have a good idea of the value of a dollar, and my sense is to wait. I've waited it out this long - longer than I would have liked - but there's no point in spending my money at this point until they're updated.
 
Excellent thesis. We're going to have to disagree, I guess. I stand by my statements, and you're welcome to stand by yours. And maybe someday you'll find a new icon to argue by :^)

It isn't a matter of being right or wrong. You are right, and I am right, because we aren't really arguing the same thing.

You are saying: Why wait, buy now and get the use out of it. Stop waiting for tech to be the latest and greatest.

We are saying: We aren't waiting for tech to be latest and greatest, we aren't spending out HARD EARNED CASH on 1.5 year old technology that is most likely to get updated in January or soon with the coming of new processors. Also, that will get our money further and our machines would last a lot longer so that come 4 years from now when we need to upgrade again we won't be in a pinch.

Fact is, you're missing the point all together and aren't posting anything significant other than your opinion. Not that it's wrong to do so, just that you can't be right or wrong with your opinion.

by the way
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Calm down about the freaking smilies. There is NO need to catch an attitude my friend. :D

True, I could buy a current Mac Pro and be happy, but I'd feel like a moron for doing so and then having it updated just a month later with 10-20% faster architecture, 2x as much base RAM, and better and cheaper graphics cards. I think I have a good idea of the value of a dollar, and my sense is to wait. I've waited it out this long - longer than I would have liked - but there's no point in spending my money at this point until they're updated.

To add to that, it's just business smart. Wait for the update to come unless you just have money to spend. My alma mater's communications department had 1 million to blow before the year was up, or the school would have collected it and added it to the pot (or something like that). So they bought 70 maxed out Mac Pros and 23" ACDs. They have a million, I have $5000, that's 0.005% and if I am lucky they will update the ACDs as well. The other option I have is to get the company to buy a setup for me to use at home. Either way, I don't have the shear disposable income to splurge on current Mac Pro systems.

I have to stretch this DOLLAR BILL!
 
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Seriously, this is pointless. If you want a Mac Pro so bad, go buy one right now! It will be very fast and you will enjoy it. And when they are revised, the rest of us will pick one of those up. And we will have fast machines too. But we will have better value for our money and be set for a couple of years until 32 core machines are released. Then you will be telling us that the penryn Mac Pros are fine! We can't win with you. ;)
 
NERD FIGHT!

Couldn't help myself. Whats wrong with waiting? Its their money. Whats wrong with buying now? Its their money.

Do what you want that works for you.
 
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